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I thought it was obvious that Microsoft is only trying to get into it for the sake of PR.
You know. Just as Sony is.
I like the pretending though. As if both companies weren't bloodsucking parasites.
You know. Just as Sony is.
I like the pretending though. As if both companies weren't bloodsucking parasites.
i don't think sony did this for the PR. the PR was a positive outcome for the company but i think their initial reasoning was from a research point of view -- they approached Stanford first, i think, and both decided to see how it would work out. sony is, first and foremost, a hardware company and as such, their technological applications drive sales of new items. their R&D is huge.
i know it's sort of off topic, but didn't sony create sixaxis control for the same pr-related reasons ms now wants folding@home/home? just asking.
First off, kudos to Sony for helping Stanford medical research, even though they probably did it for the PR. The problem here is that it's obvious Sony's motives for Folding@Home aren't altruistic, otherwise, they'd be chiding Microsoft for being on the fence about helping their users donate billions of unused processor cycles to forward medical research.
"sony is, first and foremost, a hardware company and as such, their technological applications drive sales of new items. their R&D is huge."
Folding@Home is a relatively simple piece of software that can be run on a multitude of systems. To suggest that incorporating Folding somehow helps Sony's R&D isn't just misinformed, it's ridiculous.
"sony is, first and foremost, a hardware company and as such, their technological applications drive sales of new items. their R&D is huge."
Folding@Home is a relatively simple piece of software that can be run on a multitude of systems. To suggest that incorporating Folding somehow helps Sony's R&D isn't just misinformed, it's ridiculous.
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You don't think they id it for PR? not wanting to be blunt, but they are a corporation here, it's almost legally impossibly for them to do anything which doesn't directly lead to them making (or attempting to make) more money. They know that by doing things like Folding at home it will improve their image, simple as that.
You don't think they id it for PR? not wanting to be blunt, but they are a corporation here, it's almost legally impossibly for them to do anything which doesn't directly lead to them making (or attempting to make) more money. They know that by doing things like Folding at home it will improve their image, simple as that.
well, im just glad im by my #82 unit process @home, Ive had family members and friends die of cancer, so wether its PR crap or not, its something that helps us in return to prevent life-loses.
M$ shouldnt even hesitate if this is going to bring them money or not, bill gates donates millions each year to homeless kids and orphanage, this cost them nothing, just let the program run on the xbox and open the doors those who would like to contribute.
I would like to see those desicion makers in M$ see if they get some sort of cancer and let them think if this was a good idea or not.
M$ shouldnt even hesitate if this is going to bring them money or not, bill gates donates millions each year to homeless kids and orphanage, this cost them nothing, just let the program run on the xbox and open the doors those who would like to contribute.
I would like to see those desicion makers in M$ see if they get some sort of cancer and let them think if this was a good idea or not.
For all this Folding@Home stuff...
Stanford isn't paying my power bill at the end of the month, so while I'm all for charity and such. My computer, my Xbox 360, etc, stay OFF when not in use, and I prefer to keep it that way. Keeping them on is cost prohibitive given the efforts involved. If my energy company would be willing to waive X amount of kWh off of my bill for providing charitable services, then we'll talk. Running my xbox 24/7 would end up costing me about an extra $15 a month. That's on top of running my laptop, my imac, and a PC in the house. I'd rather not. I'll just be charitable through monetary means.
Stanford isn't paying my power bill at the end of the month, so while I'm all for charity and such. My computer, my Xbox 360, etc, stay OFF when not in use, and I prefer to keep it that way. Keeping them on is cost prohibitive given the efforts involved. If my energy company would be willing to waive X amount of kWh off of my bill for providing charitable services, then we'll talk. Running my xbox 24/7 would end up costing me about an extra $15 a month. That's on top of running my laptop, my imac, and a PC in the house. I'd rather not. I'll just be charitable through monetary means.
it would cost right about $21.00 dollars a month to run the ps3 24/7. I'm sure you'd be better off actually donating 10 bucks to victims and then use the other 10 for research...than using a software to crunch some numbers eh?
@ lAboMbA -not everyone can afford an extra 21 dollars a month, especially with gas prices so high, the prices of everything rising but the amount people are making are staying the same. hell if it weren't for me still living with my parents and having a job my family would have gone quite a few time the past 6 months without fancy things like milk, food, having bills paid on time. so yeah what is an extra 21 dollars a month right??? i cant afford to even go to a community college but they expect me to help out a top notch college that i'm sure has more money than they know what to do with? if i were to contribute to a charity i'd go with cash to something more worthwhile like helping the poor here in america, i grew up where about half to three-fourths of the people were below the poverty line. if i could give an extra 21 dollars a month away i'd give to a charity that helps the poor here in america, not some money hungry electricity company.
The only reason MS isn't sure about getting into it is, because IF they get into it, their performance won't be as high as Sony's due to the fact they don't have the Cell (IIRC the Xbot has only 3 CPU's while the Cell has 7 sub and 1 master) so they'd be "losing" all the time, and look inferior.
On the other hand, the sweet PR juice of "helping a good cause" does give a bit of pause as to which way to go. I'm sure they're in their "How can we not look like losers as much as possible if we do this?" stage.
On the other hand, the sweet PR juice of "helping a good cause" does give a bit of pause as to which way to go. I'm sure they're in their "How can we not look like losers as much as possible if we do this?" stage.
you dont have to have ur ps3 on 24/7...
no one obligating no one to leave their system on for that long, not even me. but even 1 unit rendered out of a entire year, which is 7h render, is a help to find different cure's for cancer. not even $1.
You guys sure don't think about monthly bill when u play your xbox or ps3 games eh? but its ok, thats just how people take things for granted, like health.
no one obligating no one to leave their system on for that long, not even me. but even 1 unit rendered out of a entire year, which is 7h render, is a help to find different cure's for cancer. not even $1.
You guys sure don't think about monthly bill when u play your xbox or ps3 games eh? but its ok, thats just how people take things for granted, like health.
Keeping your system on may be cost prohibitive to you, but even if Sanford was directly writing checks to pay you for your electricity, they'd be spending less than purchasing a mainframe capable of doing what the public and all of their unused cycles can do. Mostly because there's no way to build such a machine. How can one server room come close to millions of PC's, PS3's, and macs?
And it was an amazing marketing tool for both of them, because they spent all sorts of time going, "Well, I don't know what Apple hopes to acheive by stealing from all of M$'s goodwill for running Folding in XP."
Hey waitaminute. . . . M$ had a platform running Folding long before the PS3, yet they're "stealing buzz" if they put it on the 360?
Also, cocks. (This means you, Jack.)
Hey waitaminute. . . . M$ had a platform running Folding long before the PS3, yet they're "stealing buzz" if they put it on the 360?
Also, cocks. (This means you, Jack.)
And yet, you know that Sony would be copycatting, if Microsoft had done the Folding project first. Shut up, Jack. Please, just shut up.
The truth is that Microsoft isn't evil. Sony's not evil either. They're just companies who want to make a profit, nothing more, nothing less. It's amazing how many people forget this very basic principle and design a fantasy reality where their Sony or MS and them are good buddies, loyal to the end and all the others are evil or that everything they make is automatically sucky.
The publicity stunt aspect of it is a pretty healthy part of the motivation for both companies, but if you can get a huge company to do something to help *anyone*, take what you can get.
The publicity stunt aspect of it is a pretty healthy part of the motivation for both companies, but if you can get a huge company to do something to help *anyone*, take what you can get.
If Jack really cared about helping curing a disease he would be happy for any help the project could get.
My 360 will fry if I offer it up to to SETI or folding etc. I know that. Microsoft know that. I do not want my console open to this sort of thing at all. Hackers will no doubt jump in and nick my CCard details etc. Nah.....No thanks. Worthy, yes, but use big business machines instead as a screensavers etc. I will be playing halo.
the original intent in all likelihood did not come from the PR department but from the R&D department. the application was to see how the networked processing would work out -- and from the PR, it worked out better than any of them thought, i'm sure. let's face it, the PR department is not in the business of software/hardware development. the R&D department saw that they will have a network to tinker with and from previous applications from other programs like SETI, they theorized how PS3 could be applied to see how it worked out.
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