Can anyone cite an example where his exposure in games press lead to him having a stronger position in media? I think the opposite is true -- when he's on CNN they're the ones giving him authority. He was unchallenged. I think you'll have a hard time citing a concrete example.
A better example of dealing with people like Thompson before they become a problem is the case of the Fox News Psychologist. The moment she opened her mouth the entire games press and gaming community shut her up and she apologized on national TV shortly thereafter.
Dealing with dangerous critics in any industry is done by challenging them head-on. People like Thompson just don't go away, and Lowenstein's failure to contain him for 10 years is a perfect example.
So, with that in mind, God bless Jack Thompson; I hope he rots in hell.
Jack Thompson has been defeated, and he is STILL being written about on Destructoid.
The truth of the matter is that he's managed to have far greater longevity than any other bastard on the internet. How many people can recall off the top of their heads the name of the guy who wrote the Mass Effect article? Or the guy who wrote the DS is for pedophiles report? Even if he is remembered as a self-important douche, he will still be remembered in a culture where you're lucky to be recalled a week after you're heard of. I just don't know if I should laud his determination to be relevent, or pity it.
But in the end, what's wrong with giving him a few minutes? It's not like the internet is strapped for time.
Much like a six-year-old, if there was one thing he was very clearly good at, it was getting attention. Yeah, we gave it to him, but ignoring him would have just led to louder whining. Really, if someone wants to cause controversy, they're going to, and it's no one's fault but their own.
And let's not forget, the crazy attention whore shit he did is what caused him to get disbarred. In this case at least, everything pretty much worked out in the end.
Also, I love how we're talking like he's dead.
Let's face it. When you have a position that's on shaky ground as it is, getting slammed on all sides and trying to find excuses to justify that shaky ground can only lead to even shakier ground. It's all about the premise that a lie begets a lie, which begets a lie, which begets a lie, etc. Eventually, he had so may lies and so many people criticizing him for those lies that it's very likely that the pressure of it all made him snap. Good, as far as I'm concerned.
Regardless, journalism is supposed to be about letting people know what's going on. DToid did exactly what they were supposed to do. There is absolutely no reason why any journalist should filter anything. Lowenstein is completely off base with that statement.
Yeah, that was what I was going to say, he was going to be a pest one way or another. Let's at least get a good yucks out of the situation.
Also Jim, if D'toid's coverage of JT has in any way contributed towards his disbarment then I'd say good work, job done. If we, the loyal readers, have been entertained on the way then that's a lovely bonus too.
Jack Thompson- last seen working in a Gamestop near you.
The gaming community picked apart JT's distortions and revaled the truth about his character, something the media wasn't going to do.
That's no to say I don't enjoy something a little deeper once in a while its not exactly what keeps me interested when i am relaxing. As for Jack Thompson... just lol. It was always nice to have a good laugh to see what Thompson would think of next.
So -- and I say this as a general statement, not in response to any one particular thing -- let's not get self-inflated and think that we did Jack any favors. We maybe stroked his ego, encouraged his fervor some, but surely no more. At best, we simply provided a more comprehensive catalogue of his errors, but mostly just for those who were already against him to begin with. Jack hung himself, and he would've done it without our "help."
After thinking about this for a while, I do think that it was right for us to not ignore him. I do, however, think the gaming media often handled Jack very poorly. Calling Jack a "kiddie fiddler," or wishing him dead and the like, may be worth a giggle to us, but to anyone looking in from the outside, we just enforced Jack's beliefs that we're all immature deviants. Many times, gamers have sunk to Jack's level, and lower, and that has done nothing good for us whatsoever. That, in my opinion, is gamers' great, grand, stupid mistake, here.
As I said on Niero's blog, we need to keep facing Jack, but we need to face him with facts, with intelligent perspectives and arguments. We need to emulate the Brian Crecentes and Geoff Keighleys and Dennis McCauleys (and N'Gai Croal too, for all my black homies out there). You retard the cause when you act like an internet frat boy. So, uh, don't do that, guys.
I agree with Sharpless, he should have been confronted by the press, but not in the way he was. Saying "Hurrr hurr you crazy bastard" and posting funny jpegs does more to reinforce his claims than hurt them.
Doing it for the sake of entertainment is both the worst and best reason I can give you. It is true, it can be used to justify anything, and I actually thought that myself, but as someone whose sole purpose is to entertain, I can't furnish you with a better reason to do what I personally did in this whole thing.
The trick of course is to do anything for entertainment that falls within the bounds of your morals and personal integrity, and I certainly did that. My coverage of JT never went against my standards as a writer and I never reported on him unless I felt something interesting or amusing was being provided to the readers.
I did not write solely about JT, nor did I report on every little thing he did. He was a small part of my output and, barring him saying or doing anything monumentally stupid, I doubt I'll be interested in covering him in the future. I was getting bored of him myself in recent months and stopped talking about him altogether.
Had Lowenstein and the ESA, and the rest of the gaming industry for that matter, spoken up and debunked Thompson's accusations, Thompson would have been put in his place long before any of this. Knowing Thompson, he would've gone on with his lawsuits and rants anyway, and still had gotten disbarred, but had the industry defended themselves I doubt that even Fox news would have wanted to touch him. Thompson's media outlets would've been greatly limited had someone stepped up and proven Thompson wrong, and there's been plenty of evidence to do so the whole time.
There's a difference between speaking up and defending yourself against a bully, and feeding at troll. IMO, Lowenstein and the industry actually made things worse for themselves by not speaking up.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You've never given me reason to believe you are an illogical person, so I will take this comment as a joke.
not that i'm complaining I enjoyed the JT stories
I mean come on this recession was basically caused (though not totally) but the media saying "dont panic but money is running out and were not asking you to RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!" so you can't deny the increased coverage did help him and his cause a little.
But if it wernt him it be someone else we were just lucky he was a fool with little information, first hand experience or the sense to STFU to the florida bar.
How can ANYONE say that the we (gamers) treated him as a "credible, fair minded critic?"
Every one of us though he was bat shit insane and we made no effort to hide it.
As he kept hitting the spotlight on news shows, gamers were the first ones to point out EVERY lie and inaccuracy he spewed forth. Gamers were the ones asking "Is this sort of thing even LEGAL for him to do?"
WE may have helped to create the monster of Mad Jack, but I wholeheartedly believe that REGULAR Jack would have caused infinitely more damage in the long run.
He was fighting against what should be unalienable rights and he was actually WINNING some of his cases before he got picked up by the gaming sites.
Gamers did this world a service if you ask me.
mmm comma before a because -_-
Personally, I thought the whole thing was 'over'-covered through our own outlets (preaching to the choir, essentially), but not being "over-covered" does not mean you have to avoid coverage at all. I think there could have been a much happier medium.

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