Jack Thompson, the whimsical and lovable old kook that enjoys discussing videogames has recently and proudly announced that he sent his own 15-year old son into a Best Buy so that he could purchase a copy of the M-rated BioShock. In using members of his family like this, Thompson claims to have proven that Manhunt 2 and Grand Theft Auto IV will be "widely sold to children of all ages" despite what the ESRB, Take-Two Interactive or the major retail chains have promised. Destructoid has sent Jack Thompson's medal through the mail.
Now, what we have here is an interesting question of perspective. Best Buy was not right to sell BioShock to a 15 year old. That much is true. What this proves, however, is that the problem lies with retailers more than Take-Two, and that Jack Thompson is wrong to attack members of the games industry, who did not personally sell that game to his child. That's my take on the situation, though obviously not Jack's, who seems to believe he has proven that everybody in the whole world -- except him -- is to blame for a man sending his son into a store to purchase a game he knows he shouldn't be buying.
Of course, this also raises the question of parenting. Jack Thompson sent his son in there, first and foremost, and allowed his son to buy a mature-rated game. I would say this also proves that the parents are where this whole issue begins and ends. Should a parent be educated enough to say to their child "do not play this game" and actually enforces such a rule, then there really shouldn't be an issue. If, however, they act like Thompson and stuff sixty bucks into their kid's hands with orders to buy as much violent entertainment as they can, well then we have a problem.
Education, not legislation. Parents should be told about these games in a way that doesn't cause mindless hysteria and actually helps us all move forward into enlightenment. If only Jack Thompson used his manipulation and straw manning to make sensible points like that, I think we'd have an old kook who would deserve a lot more respect. Also, I should point out that whoever did sell that copy of BioShock to a kid is a moron, I don't want that part forgotten.
[Thanks, Pablo]
IM JACK THOMPSON *CRYS*WHAAAAA*GAMES ARE EVIL*WHAAAAAA*CRY*CRY*CRY*CRY*
this man needs to find a damn hobby....cuz this pick on gamer shit is gettin really old.
I wonder if his kid got to keep the game, or did jack flipp out and start smacking him with the Bioshock case for touching such evil..
@scottoid
Agreed
Wake me up when he gets disbarred.
I HOPE THEY SHUT TAKE 2'S DOORS FOR THIS!
The person who sold it to him should be publicly beaten. Jack Thompson must go get his vasectomy reversed.
Here here Jim. Nice article. Now if we could get thinking like this into the public eye, people like Jack "Mates with watermelons" Thompson off of the publishers backs.
What does that kid do all day?! Watch Superbook all day with his old man?
stop giving this asphole attention. he will never go away if people keep giving him media coverage of any kind.. STOP! STOP! STOP! i beg all of you! this guy is a waste of friggen space. he doesn't deserve any media attention what so ever! STOP!
"stop giving this asphole attention. he will never go away if people keep giving him media coverage of any kind.. STOP! STOP! STOP! i beg all of you! this guy is a waste of friggen space. he doesn't deserve any media attention what so ever! STOP!"
Jack Thompson and the press have a symbiotic relationship. I will stop giving him attention when he stops being entertaining. I'm well aware he uses the media for publicity, which is why I use him for content.
congratulations jack, you just proved that you are an irresponsible parent. quick call child services!
fuck it, i don't even care if kids DO play these games. i mean how many of us didn't play mortal kombat when we were children? how many of us thought it was sooo cool to rip of someone's head. and how many of us did it effect? i mean seriously, who the fuck cares?
half the people that bought bioshock wont play it..... the other half plays it some then comes to argue online, as is my experience and tahts a shame.... cuz I loves the 'shock series
LEAVE JACK THOMPSON ALONE!!!!
hE'S TRYING TO PROTECT CHILDREN!!!!!
this kind of stuff annoys me to no end. For what it's worth though I was in my local ebgamestop recently and they turned two twelve-year olds away from buying a T rated game. It was actually one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
So places are upholding the ESRB ratings, just not everywhere. But no one's going to report on the good stuff, only the bad.
I gotta hand it to you Jim, the similarities are amazing, but no one will ever put two and two together. This (ignorant) man sent his child out to buy a M rated game, and then blames the publishers for something that isn't thier job.
Yet what's even more ironic is that Jack sent his kid out, and parents do this all the time with no regard of the M warning. What's ironic about it is this is how it should be looked at, even Jack did this himself proving that parents are also to blame, yet it has been turned around and this is all now in his favor.
That's f*cked up.
I'm really tired of hearing about Jack Thompson. He's too stupid to actually achieve the results he desires. No matter what he tries to pull, it's going to backfire. His superiors and peers all feel that he's going about things all wrong. Jack Thompson is not a threat.
I feel sorry for the minimum wage sales rep who's just trying to get through law school so he can get on the supreme justice and partake in the disbarment ceremony that will inevitably occur.
Cause and Effect Jack...
All of Dtoid should print this article out and mail it to the Florida courts.
Just to clarify things a bit:
A) It is NOT illegal in any way to sell a Mature rating game to a child in the US
B) Thomson sent his own son to buy it, thereby giving PERMISSION to his son to purchase an M rated game.
No laws broken, and express permission given to buy the title... why would anyone be fired or even in trouble?
Jack's posturing holds no water though. Even though his son was never 'carded' for buying the game, he specifically told him to go buy it, thus giving his son express permission to own an M rated game.
If it were someone else's child he sent in, or his son bought it without his knowledge, then that is one thing... but setting up this little 'sting' with his son holds no water.
In fact, he becomes one of those 'negligent parents' by condoning his 15 year old son's purchase, regardless of his motive.
Discussion over. Jack loses.
I believe wanker is an understatement.
Four words, Jacky:
Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
Everyone copy and paste this to Jack over and over. Now.
If people like Jack Thompson could make the connection that you describe above (A parent gave their kid the money to buy the game, didn't make sure it was rated M, bought them that system in the first place), we wouldn't have any problems. Think about it. If he just realized that he was the one who initiated the purchase of Bioshock, and not his son (whom we can all assume, doesn't have a job), he would be sort of smart, and we all know that doesn't describe Village Idiot Thompson at all. We're in culture where everyone wants somebody else to monitor their children. Jack Thompson blames the guy at Best Buy who sold the game, the lady at the McDonald's who serves greasy food, and the monkey on Comedy Central who scheduled Crank Yankers. They don't make the connection that they drove their kids to the first two places, and bought the flat screen HDTV and had digital cable installed to support the first one. If making simple connections were their strong suit, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Here's something to ponder:
Name all the major retailers you can who don't specialize in videogames. WalMart, Target, K-Mart, Circuit City, Best Buy... did I miss any major outlets in the US? Let me know if I did.
But, ok, out of those five major retailers, how many of you really think their employees are trained to card for M-rated games? Most of the people employed by these companies (especially the first three), probably don't even know the ESRB exists, let alone notice the rating. If you live outside the US, you might not know what I'm talking about, but if you do, then you know they're largely a bunch of idiots. Although we might (might!) be able to rely on specialist game store to check the ratings, we certainly can't rely on a shit-load of inbred retards who don't know how to work a fucking cash resiter to protect our nation's youth from Big Daddies.
I'm of the camp that thinks it's all on the parents. Mommies and daddies just need to pay more attention to what their kids are soaking in. I think that even the idea of carding for video games is fucking dumb. We're not talking about disposable items here like ciggarettes, booze, and porno magazines, peices of software that aren't meant to be thrown away when you're done with them (or when the pages start sticking together). Parents, if you're so concerned about what your kid is playing, then either check their rooms more often to find out what they're soaking in, of take their consoles away. But all this bullshit just makes it harder for the material to reach its intended audience. This is why you can't buy AO rated games in stores, but you can walk two aisels down and grab the latest Penthouse from the magazine rack.
Parents are definitely not what they used to be, I used to work in a rental store and nothing pleased me more during my shift to ID some little 15 year old poser in FUBU clothes and a G-unit t-shirt trying to rent GTA Vice city or GTA SA and see their little gangster faces drop. PARENTS IF YOU'RE READING THIS LISTEN GOOD: SIT DOWN WITH YOUR CHILDREN AFTER YOU RENT OR BUY THEM A GAME! IF THEY GET EMBARRASSED THEN IT'S KIND OF OBVIOUS THAT THEY KNOW, AND NOW YOU KNOW AS WELL, THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING THIS GAME. This box is not an electronic babysitter people, take some goddamn responsibility.
sorry, it was suppose to read like this:
...magazines, we're talking about peices...
If he ever brings this up in any kind of debate, hopefully whoever is against him will be smart enough to see how this illustrates where the real problem lies.
@ RICHARD BLOCKER
Hahaha
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What's with this guy? Here's a dick to the throat, Thompson. When I have kids, I'm letting them play M rated games at age 12. You know why? Because they're my kids and what I say goes. It's up to me, what my kids will watch or play, not Best Buy.
Their job is to sell stuff. Instead of going after video games with your son (who I feel soooo sorry for), why not make him go into to liquor stores and see if he can by a pack of cigs or some booze. That's a real danger to your health, unlike video games you ball of pathetic fuck.
Do you not understand that the internet hates you? The internet! The entire fucking internet hates you.
I'd rant here, but I already ranted about this stuff last night in my Cblog:
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/JJ+Rage/ranttoid-parents-and-jack-thompson-take-notice-wall-o-text--44249.phtml
I'd rant here, but I already ranted about this stuff last night in my Cblog:
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/JJ+Rage/ranttoid-parents-and-jack-thompson-take-notice-wall-o-text--44249.phtml
You know what made this post even funnier is having a pic of OJ at the bottom, lol.
[cough]hypocrite![/cough]
Wow, im amazed, i sended the link to tips at destructoid and my latin american name appears on the post!!
I will print this post and hang it on the wall besides my MD degree!!!
Jokes aside, this guy is an idiot... really, i dont understand him.
And i feel sorry for his kid, it has to be tought to have such an idiot for a dad, and he is not allowed to play games (no bioshock people!), thats sad.
Jim, I'm so glad that you got to write this post. I know that Jack Thompson is one of your least favorite people, and I love the passion, fairness, and intelligence that you put into your articles. :)
If we stop writing about him he'll go away.
Who allowed that man to breed?
I bet that kid gets his ass kicked all the time in school, and Jack does nothing but blame Bully
Jack Thompson doesn't deserve the job he's got. He's a reactionary, single minded dolt.
But hey...Don't take my word for it.
Didn't he do this before with GTA a few years ago?
Recently bought a copy of Resident Evil 4 Wii at Best Buy.
I'm 28 and I was asked if I was over 18 - I smiled and said yea, didn't give the clerk a hard time because I know they probably have to do it to everyone.
It's like carding for alcohol - sometimes the clerks care, sometimes they don't. Your eventually bound to find a situation where someone doesn't really give a damn.
That really proves nothing at all, except that some people at counters are idiots and/or just don't care.
I tried to buy Bioshock day it came out and was rejected. JACK DIDN'T THINK OF ME DID HE.
Oh man, what's Jack going to do when his kids grow up and are too old for him to use them for stupid shit like this?
*pictures Jack wearing some sort of horrible disguise and trying to act as though he were "hip" and "with it" and "not unbelievably lame" in an effort to pass himself off as underage so he can "catch" retailers in the act*
Last I saw of Thomspson's kid he was screaming "Leave Britney ALONE!!" on YouTube.......
Also, I wonder how many stores he tried that didn't sell the game to his kid before he lucked out and found this particular Best Buy moron?
He's legally alowed to have OFFSPRING??
Heavens help us.
I feel so sorry for that kid. May he have an awesome life and realise that video games are not Satan.
im 17 & my local gamestop wont sell me rated M games cuz i dont have an ID :(
Fuck you Jack you video game nazi
I bought Bioshock in walmart and im 16.
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