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Remember how I told you Jack "video games are zee devil" Thompson was on FOX News yesterday taking advantage of the Virginia Tech tragedy to push his own agenda? Well, thankfully one of our dedicated readers, Kennigit, sent over the video of the appearance. Take a look and fill your rage meter.
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He's out of his mind. GTA lowers your heart rate? You can "train" using Doom? I think one YouTube comment put it best:
"Does playing NBA 2k7 make you better at basketball? ... Does Dance Dance Revolution make a you a better dancer?"
Forget personal responsibility and parental observation, video games are the real killa!
I don't like hating people, my list is like 3 guys, but Opportunistic Bastard here is close to making it in.
Sigh...Why don't parents slap their kids anymore...?
That man scares the bejeezus out of me. The quick-draw assumptions, the posturing, the name-dropping, the wide-open and self-serving disgust of everything even remotely related to video games...
STFUAJGDA (Shut The Fuck Up And Just Get Disbarred Already)
That man makes me physically sick. If I met him in real life I would spit directly into his face and walk away. Then he would probably try to blame sunflower seeds for teaching me to spit with such accuracy.
Wow... Did he say a single thing that was (A) True, or (B) related to the VaTech shootings?
Why...is he referred to as...a school shooting expert? Is that seriously something he put on his fucking business card?
I think I have it...
Jack Thompson = Ellsworth Toohey
Bah, you guys shouldn't waste news space on this asshole. It just empowers him.
He blamed Grand Theft auto : Vice City...
This news cast makes me teary eyed... mostly because of the kids, and then you have this assface making it worse!!!
FUCCUCKCKCUFUCUFCUKFKFUCKY OU YOU BITCH!!!!
Since Doom trains people to kill, why don't we have the army use Doom to train?
LMAO @ TAZAR
D'toid readers comments are the best comments.....
*BIG sigh here..*
How the fuck does one train on Super Columbine Massacre RPG?
I hope my parents dont decide to check out my stuff and see all my training exercises i am running (Doom, Counterstrike, GTA, Pikmin)
i hope Jack Thompson's kid goes on a crazy school shooting one of these days. That would make everything perfect. Minus the lost of whoever gets killed the world would be off much better.
The problem is that some of Jack's ideals I can get behind. We do have a responsibility to keep games like GTA out of kids that are only 12 years old. But Jack Thompson really takes it one step too far. Why can't he just use truth to push his ideals? Why does he have to lie to blatantly the way he does. How can anybody even be listening to him right now?
The only reason he is getting any press time is because there are so many people that really have no idea what these video games really are. All these older people and parents just know that these kids are playing video games, and Jack Thompson is telling them that video games are the cause.
never mind the fact that crimes have decreased across the country over the last year. or the fact that gun deaths have decreased. and that the amount of people that play video games is skyrocketing. He has no real evidence. If you have 50 million people that play video games and ONE of them goes on a school shooting, that is not representative of the whole. The same goes for the millions of muslims and a handful do suicide bombings. MOST muslims believe that suicide bombing are wrong. MOST people that play video games will never go on a school shooting.
Jack Thomson is a piece of SHIT. Once again having his own agenda when a massacre happens.
I've been hearing people say "The only way to get rid of Jack Thompson is to stop talking about Jack Thompson."
I say that's bullshit. He has to keep being portrayed as an asshat, and everyone who knows the truth has to do everything they can to make sure everyone in world knows how completely wrong he is. That he's just an opportunist that plays on the fears of the nation. If we don't, then everyone who doesn't know better, or believes everything they see on TV, will believe him and that will just make the problem worse.
People need to be educated, not scared. If we don't take personal responsibility against Jack Thompson's actions, then he just might gain some ground in holy crusade! To us, he's a fool, but to other's he may make sense. Let's let everyone know!!!
You know, when I turn into the news and want to hear the first breaking commentary on a disaster such as this, I want to hear some idiot (who has lost so much in taxpayer money in lost cases) talk about the evil of video games for ten minutes. i mean its what you get for watching FOX news but even they tried to get him off his tirade you could tell. Every question they asked tried to lead him off of the video game thing but it didn't work.
Pistolaero:
You know I sorta agree with you, but when he gets a spot in a prime news even such as this, its kinda too late.
MOST people don't wear reindeer masks and rape undead babies but go with the flow TED....
My jaw literally dropped when I read your first paragraph. Seriously, not in that good sexy way either.
Wow I my rage meter was so full my last post didn't even make grammatical sense. Sorry. And I agree smokey B.
I knew theres going to be a so-called "expert" that will blame video games, music or movie but I never thought that someone would put the blame on video games that early. I mean Jack Thompson just jump at the chance to promote his agenda. Next time Jack Thompson will say the Nintendo Wii and its numchuck controller is a deadly weapon.
My theory on what Jack's buissness card looks like:
Honestly, you guys should not be surprised that jack came out and blamed video-games. If not him, someone else would. When my gf called me to tell me this happened my first comment to her was "Man, more fuel for fucking JT".
Someone will always blame games, best thing we could do is educate those around us.
Expert in school shooting?
WTF!
I have Doom and GTA, I am a threat, you better watch out for me....That is ridiculous.
Millions play these games and don't shoot people up. A couple bad eggs ruin it for all gamers. They may have used the games for inspiration, but it is ridiculous to assume that these games "train" kids to be violent.
I don't see how games like Doom or Grand Theft Auto can possibly "Train" a person to go on a killing rampage.
You cannot walk into a gun shop with a badly programmed cashier, tell him "let me see a gun" snatch it and shoot him with it... There's certain real life protocols and issues that get in the way of these things happen.. The very grasp of reality is what Jack seems to be missing these days.
Doom trains people to kill? Last I felt my mouse, it felt nothing like a gun. There's no safety that'll stop me from clicking anything on my mouse. And I know for damn sure that my PS2 controller doesn't feel like a gun either. If anything has taught me more in the use and handling of firearms, it's the news... As for he who says that these things being glorified on the big screen - such as Dr Phil who also just blamed this situation on Violent Video Games - They're forgetting two things that existed in violence before video games got to this level... TV and Movies.
All I really see lawyers like him doing is one thing. Profiting from the death of others. "Your kid was a homicidal maniac, and he's killed someone? Don't you worry, i'll help get you that grand paycheck to make it all better."
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/04/17/dr-phil-blames-video-games-for-virginia-tech-massacre/
Oops. Here's the link
I just loved how his voice cracked at the end. I really wonder if that was calculated. Could he have actually rehearseed the little almost crying bit before he got on the phone?
Guys, you need to go check out Kotaku's feature on this. Crecente is dissecting every damn lies this fucktard is saying on TV.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/feature/feature-dissecting-jacks-lies-252914.php
You beat me to it Whiskey Jak, I was going to link you guys ut whatever.
I think Crecente might hate JackTom more that D'toid...
What I want to know, in all seriousness, is what makes a man like jack thompson? What leads him to think the way he does and behave the way he does? Why is he so sure of himself and vehement about this issue?
Here's the classic tale of 'old people' hating 'new things'.
Look, I think.
Apparently these people don't. They imply that the shooter trained by playing Video Games and that his attack was premeditated- connecting this to the games played...Well I've never heard of any game that takes place in an exact replica of Virginia Tech University. I don't know of any game that requires you to lock doors to trap innocent bystanders in a building so you can go on a rampage. Why can't people see that games imitate life(in some cases) not the other way around. Shootings existed before games, but then they blamed movies...
Hey middle class America, grow some balls and blame yourselves for your fucked up children. There are many gamers all across the world who play these same games, and yet American shootings are highest in the world. How can this correlation hold any merit? It's totally biased, he isn't looking at a wide enough audience, he's using concentrated samples of isolated incidents. You cannot base a solid thesis on these kinds of numbers. Theres a problem with your society Jack, not it's favourite entertainment medium.
Lol, expert? What a joke.
Last time I checked, our President kills more people than that every day and he never pulls a trigger. I think someone should look into that first. Also, I use Halo to plan out my massacres. Doom worked pretty good at first, but then I discovered plasma grenades and realized one could kill 20 people if I throw it right.
Unfortunetly when I heard about all of these shootings happening at VT, the first thing I thought was "My god, I hope this guy doesn't own or even like video games" for this very reason.
Yep, I am one of those guys that says ignoring Jack Thompson will get rid of him. He's an attention whoring spoiled brat in a grown man's body. He fully well knows you won't ignore him so he purposely acts up just so interest in generated in what he has to say. Need I remind you about that college debate tour he went on where he encouraged people to wear their "I hate Jack Thompson" t-shirts". He's exploiting your hatred for him...
Now I'm not simply saying ignore him because we can't just give him free reign to do whatever the hell he wants but I think we have talked about the guy WAY too much. Every time he acts up all the major game sites report the hell out of it and JT loves it. Besides, I don't think that our help is needed too much as half the lawsuits he files fail miserably and his attempt to draft laws get shot down. Not only have the judges been shooting down virtually everything he's tried, but he's also managed to make a fool out of him on repeated occasstions. Still I don't think that paying a massive amount of attention to the guy is really very necessary.
Fucking Jack Thompson
Urge to kill...RISING!! Someone put this shitlicker out of his misery already.
The whole idea that Doom is the culprit behind these murders just makes me laugh everytime someone like JT says it. I mean how out of touch are you?
Doom came out almost 15 years ago! Find another scape goat! Yeah, clicking my mouse on that giant pixelly blob of an alien turned me into a homicidal maniac!
Jack Thompson... what a fuckin bitch he is... just cos his kids beat him on street fighter every day!
I've been playing video games since the NES, and I've also been known to go out target shooting and hunting from time to time. I personally don't see the relation between the two. I'm a pretty damn good shot in GRAW or COD, but when I went out target shooting for the first time in about 5 years my aim was complete and utter shit. Aiming reticules and real gun sights are NOT similar in any way. The way you hold a rifle or pistol is in NO WAY similar to how you hold and operate a controller. Games do NOT help you control your breathing, and they do not steady your hand.
Fuck this motherfucker in his ignorant ass...real world experience would help to curb some of his assumptions about things. I suppose he's worried that if he picked up a controller he might up and decide to kill his whole family.
PRAISE ALMIGHTY JESUS! THE WORLD'S COMIN' TO AN END AND WE'RE ALL RIDIN' ALONGSIDE THE 4 HORSEMEN! SAVE ME JACK! CURE ME OF MAH EVIL WAYS, SUH! BEFORE I SUCK THE DEVIL'S COX AND HE SPRAYS HIS PIXELLATED HELL-SEED ALL OVER MAH PORKY BOSOM!
As hideously misguided as the man is, at this point I almost have to admire his dedication. It's hard to stay dedicated to preposterous ideas, especially ones like his, and his single-mindedness has allowed him to do so. Obviously he really believes everything he's saying, even if most of it is blatantly misguided, misinformed, and incorrect.
So we'll just have to keep doing our duty; correct the fallacies that he is spreading in his cause. One individual cannot give an entire group a bad name unless the group can come up with no reasoning or logic to refute that individual. And so far, gamers as a whole have been doing a pretty great job at providing such reasoning.
Jack can go off on his crusade as long as he wants, it's almost Sisyphisian in nature. He can push the boulder up the hill as many times as he is able, but in the end the weight of fact and reason will roll over him and back down to the level field of logical thinking.
i think this ballsack thompson is tryin to piss a gamer off soo much that they actually do kill him
Yeah, you definitely need to put the Kotaku link that Whiskey Jak posted in this story. People need to see Crecente completely dismantle Phantom Jocks' entire case.
Man Jack is so smart. Before any investigations, he can already tell what made the guy go off. What a great attorney! Sarcasm aside, Jack is a retard. I guess there was no such thing as "murder" before video games.
the word jack is fine.
the word thompson is fine.
the usage of these words within 7 words from eachother should be banned from all gaming blogs/news/forums/etc. treat him like the idiot in elementary school. maybe if we ignore him he'll go away.
You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. They know it's going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kinds of dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt.
guys like him who are ABOVE everyone usually
have these dark secrets,
so I can't wait til he gets caught on to Catch A Predator!!
just posturing a question, if someone were to sharpen the end of an old NES cartridge into a shiv and stab jack thompson with it, would that make him correct in his views? the irony would be priceless.
but i could never do such a thing, i don't play video games, therefore i am as peaceful and docile as buddha.
people its clear we all need to take out Jack Thompson, so everyone needs to get together, train on doom for weeks straight, then we can be certain we will not miss.
So what's the name of that cannibalism game that Jeffrey Dahmer "trained" on again?
If all these "Murder Simulators" are training these kids to kill, we ought to send all of the best Halo players to Iraq. War solved.
Mario makes me want to stop on everyone's head.
"So eloquent"...in promoting fear. Jack Thompson and FOX "News" together...it's like eating a dogshit haggis.
True, but those Halo players would just kill each other like always.
"School shootings expert"
Looks like Fox doesn't check a guys background! Quick, someone call Fox and tell them that your god and get on TV!
if he was callin out Time-crisis or sumpin..maybe..just maybe he'd have a point.
but seriously..who the fuck can shoot up a school with an xbox or ps2 controller?...well if yu had the original xbox controller yu could maybe break a few toes..thats it.
i find this all so upsetting.
let's all pool some money together and open up www.jackthompsonisanasshat.com and we'll post all of his quotes and grandstanding moments along with evidence to the contrary...
what do ya think?
Also... 32 people are fucking dead. That's a lot of people to die on a school... I just realized that's twice the number of people I know and hang out with on a regular basis here in Orlando.
i like your idea nademagnet...we could also make videos of us pretending to shoot up schools with wii controllers...
fuck i hate this guy...ya of course something like this is pre meditated....are u fucking dumb...wow u don't just wake up one morning and bring a bunch of guns to school. fuck i hate this guy
Jack Thompson is fucking disgusting. End of story.
Seriously sorry about the long post but this man never tires of making me sick. Games are not murder simulators, they do not train anybody to kill!
Take Columbine for example (The Massacre that they tried (and failed) to link to doom) - Two months after Carneal carried out the school shootings he was interviewed by Dr. Dewey Cornell, a psychologist who is director of the Virginia Youth Violence project, and Dr. Diane H. Schetky, a forensic psychiatrist.
From the notes:
They thought he had never fired a gun, but they were very wrong. He had learned to shoot while at 4-H camp the summer of his "groundation" and that autumn he had stolen his father's .38-caliber handgun from a box in a closet. Although his father says in the deposition that the gun was securely locked and that it had no ammunition, Michael says (in the notes), "They had it in cheap padlock with combination on the back." He took the gun and hid it in a crate in his room, putting a book in the gun box to make it heavy so no one would know the gun was gone.
Not only that but at least two other students saw him with guns at school before the shootings.
So that rules out video game training, as he already had the real thing to play with.
Continued.....
And don't get me started on Jeff Weise and the red lake shootings, the trouble is this post is already way to long.
People should start listening to real experts and not the likes Jack Thompson or Dave Grossman (sorry I know I am soiling this comments section just mentioning their names), these people just distract attention from the real causes and also worryingly use their so called expertise to try to lesser killers sentences.
Someone who is a real expert though is Dr. Helen Smith who is a forensic psychologist in Knoxville, Tennessee. She has evaluated over five thousand mentally-disturbed children and adults, and has become an expert on kids who kill. She did a national survey of violent and nonviolent kids, which means she had the opportunity to hear what kids themselves had to say.
Smith objects to the way many experts blame violent television, mental disturbance (the "bad seed"), video games or some rock group's edgy lyrics for the school killings. Those experts, she contends, aren’t listening to the kids. She believes that violence comes from the accumulation of many distorted thoughts and stressors that finally send a child over the edge. In short, it's the way he or she processes what they see, hear, and experience. Kids who use violence to solve a problem have already had a number of violent thoughts. They perceive their environment and their situation in such a way that violence seems the best mode of action. That is, children who kill are predisposed to kill. They don’t just snap. They have a restricted view of other people’s rights and they feel they must bring their situation to some dramatic conclusion.
Continued again.........
While school nerds who were bullied once chose the course of suicide as the way out, now they see another way to take action and get attention: strike out. Using guns and being violent toward others moves them from powerlessness to power, from nobodies to media celebrities.
Obviously the media are going to go with what sells and unfortunately this means that they are always going to go with hype and exaggeration. So it is sadly not surprising when legislators attack fictional and fantasy images of violence portrayed in media products instead of dealing with actual crime.
Thompson is a D-Bag. What happened is tragic, and should be respected, so don't go pushing you anti-videogame agenda at time like this especially. He has no respect. I think he needs to be banned from society.
@ Amalgamut00:
Actually, the military has. Google 'Marine Doom'. It was used to teach squad tactics though, not actual weapon skills.
@ Amalgamut00:
Actually, the military has. Google 'Marine Doom'. It was used to teach squad tactics though, not actual weapon skills.
Whoops - extra kudos if you noticed the mistake in my first post ;-)
My first post should have read:
Take the Heath High School Shooting for example (The Massacre that he tried (and failed) to link to doom)
Isn't anyone just crazy anymore or is video games the cause of all shootings and death?
It's Fox News...they never say the truth anyway...
As far as wacko jacko is concerned, people cant go crazy and want to kill others NOT through videogames...o wait, what was that mr. psychology and mr. common sense? GET BACK IN YOUR CLOSET!
People have to stop putting the blame on things that they want to and start taking events for what they really are.
That FUCKTARD needs to play Brain Academy.
But maybe he'll suck at it and his anger towards videogames will grow.
Lies and half truths. 'Eloquent'...that made me sick... those reporters should be ashamed for putting such tripe on the air. Journalistic intergity is dead. Sad, sad day.
School Shootings Expert. THAT, MADE, MY, DAY. Holy shit.
got 15 seconds in before bailing out of listening. the man is a fool. i wont profess to being personally moved by such tragedies, but to hear them hijacked by pious fucks like this really does fuel my inner misanthrope.
cunt.