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3D is more like a gimmick that after sometime after it dies, it resurrects itself only to end up dying again.
......... you mean that "3D boom" that comes around every 3-5 years and dies off about a year or so after all the hype? Who knew?
There is nothing wrong with 3D, but there are serious issues with its various implementations. If someone could get it right without the steep barrier to entry and visual side effects, I'm sure people would be more receptive. Until then it will remain an awkward parlor trick.
Um was it ever popular? I just remember some 3D movies doing well just because they were generally pretty good movies then the industry trying to force home 3D at us even though no one really asked for it...
This just in from Jack Tretton:
"While it has only been a year since we declared 3D gaming's future, we now realize that it was only a passing fad, and have decided to shift our focus elsewhere.
We came to this conclusion on our own, not because Nintendo thinks so. We don't even know if Nintendo said anything on the subject at all, let alone if they've done so recently, and even less so if they've done so very recently.
We have no way to verify Nintendo even exists."
"While it has only been a year since we declared 3D gaming's future, we now realize that it was only a passing fad, and have decided to shift our focus elsewhere.
We came to this conclusion on our own, not because Nintendo thinks so. We don't even know if Nintendo said anything on the subject at all, let alone if they've done so recently, and even less so if they've done so very recently.
We have no way to verify Nintendo even exists."
There are a handful of films that are really enjoyable in 3D. Problem is, it's only a handful. A lot of other films (Henry Patter, Adventures of TinTin) that the 3D is a blatant cash-grab, that use 3D only in very few, specific scenes for that gimmicky "pop-out" effect, instead of using it to add depth like good 3D films use.
What I mean is, the 3D effect, when used properly, can be awesome and add enjoyment to the experience, but few films or games know how to use it well. I haven't played many games in 3D that use the effect particularly well, but you still can find some gems, like Superstardust HD. You won't want to play it in 2D again after you try it.
What I mean is, the 3D effect, when used properly, can be awesome and add enjoyment to the experience, but few films or games know how to use it well. I haven't played many games in 3D that use the effect particularly well, but you still can find some gems, like Superstardust HD. You won't want to play it in 2D again after you try it.
The 3D fad was dying out before the 3DS launched. And 3D doesn't improve graphics. If you can even get it to work it muddies the picture and makes it look like a pop-up picture book. No-one was asking for 3D either.
Haters will, as usual, hate. 3D is extremely cool when it's done right and appropriate, and happens often.
"I dislike 3D." - Valid opinion
"I hope 3D dies out and goes way." - Asshole opinion that seeks to deprive others of something they may enjoy.
Recognize the difference.
"I dislike 3D." - Valid opinion
"I hope 3D dies out and goes way." - Asshole opinion that seeks to deprive others of something they may enjoy.
Recognize the difference.
Man, stereoscopic 3D IS NOT A GIMMICK! Geez, just play Super Mario 3D Land.
Iwata said he believes that, in general, stereo 3D is better than 2D for gaming, not because they make the 3DS, but because it's the way we see the world and it truly opens gameplay possibilities.
I would miss the 3D feature in my 3DS games if developers decided to stop using it.
And 3D screenshots are awesome. If only resolution was higher...
Iwata said he believes that, in general, stereo 3D is better than 2D for gaming, not because they make the 3DS, but because it's the way we see the world and it truly opens gameplay possibilities.
I would miss the 3D feature in my 3DS games if developers decided to stop using it.
And 3D screenshots are awesome. If only resolution was higher...
As someone that is made physically ill by 3D effects, I personally cannot wait for this current crop of "OMG 3D IS THE FUTURE" to go away, I can't fault companies for putting it out there. After all, there are plenty of people that willing pay extra money for a movie ticket just so they can see some cheesy effect. It's also why I will never buy a 3DS - 3D is not something I want.
And before someone chimes in with "BUT YOU CAN TURN IT OFF IT'S NOT REQUIRED ALL HAIL NINTENDO" or some such drivel, let it be known that I refuse to spend money on an item where the main selling point, feature, and naming convention is something that I will never use. That just seems like an incredibly poor financial decision to me.
And before someone chimes in with "BUT YOU CAN TURN IT OFF IT'S NOT REQUIRED ALL HAIL NINTENDO" or some such drivel, let it be known that I refuse to spend money on an item where the main selling point, feature, and naming convention is something that I will never use. That just seems like an incredibly poor financial decision to me.
Now I avoid 3D movies, I hate those freaking uncomfortable glasses, as long as we have the choice in theatres it's fine;
and well back to Nintendo I'm glad Iwata finally "gets it" !? Or does he really? Hope so.
and well back to Nintendo I'm glad Iwata finally "gets it" !? Or does he really? Hope so.
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I agree. The 3D was something I never thought I would consistently use before the 3ds came out, and now I feel weird whenever I turn it off.
@scrutle
It does improve the visuals. It gives everything a sense of weight and impact relative to everything else. MH3G really uses it well, as it has a real time shadow for nearly everything that further accentuates this mass... it is like looking into a little window, and in your head makes more sense than when everything is flat.
I agree. The 3D was something I never thought I would consistently use before the 3ds came out, and now I feel weird whenever I turn it off.
@scrutle
It does improve the visuals. It gives everything a sense of weight and impact relative to everything else. MH3G really uses it well, as it has a real time shadow for nearly everything that further accentuates this mass... it is like looking into a little window, and in your head makes more sense than when everything is flat.
3D is a pretty big reason I want a 3DS over a Vita so much, of course the bigger reason is the games. I've always loved 3d ever since I seen that Terminator movie at Universal studios all those many years ago.
I actually use the 3D on 3DS most of the time, but for movies I only ever go 3D if it's like a CG animated film. It seldom rises above a gimmick in live action.
I just find it amusing that he's basically confessing how they fucked up with the fad, but still need to validate its existence because that is a thing that companies do.
In truth, the 3D is, as others have said, a nice feature, and on some of the more tough levels of Super Mario 3D Land it was nice to turn on to help with the occasional jumps. However, glasses-free 3D requires hands to be more steady than is physically possible (hence the real reason Kid Icarus: Uprising includes a stand).
In truth, the 3D is, as others have said, a nice feature, and on some of the more tough levels of Super Mario 3D Land it was nice to turn on to help with the occasional jumps. However, glasses-free 3D requires hands to be more steady than is physically possible (hence the real reason Kid Icarus: Uprising includes a stand).
so what's the next crap gimmick nintendo will sell and MS and Sony will follow? oh looks like it's a shitty tablet
A good sign. Maybe the next handheld they make won't be gimped by the 3D output feature. And hopefully their future consoles won't be poisoned by this shit either. They need to get on the ball with making a comprehensive and user-friendly online account system for their downloadable games. The customers sees far more value in that than 3D output, and Nintendo is twiddling their thumbs on it.
It's one of the reason I prefer Sony right now cuz they offer a lot of their best Playstation games for permanent ownership for a good price off of PSN, and I can easily transfer them to new hardware if my old hardware dies. Nintendo keeps dropping the ball on this which is why I keep emulating their games instead of buying them legit. When they finally get a good account system that isn't tied to hardware I'll be glad to start buying their games.
Either way, this is a good sign. The 3DS may have ruined Miyamoto and Iwata's careers. Miyamoto did "retire" from general manager (kind of like Yokoi left Nintendo after the Virtual Boy bombed). Maybe Iwata wants to avoid being fired from the company. Might be too late, though. The financial damage has been done to the company, and on his watch. They might be letting him try to exit the company with some dignity and make up for letting the developers run wild at the company's expense.
It's one of the reason I prefer Sony right now cuz they offer a lot of their best Playstation games for permanent ownership for a good price off of PSN, and I can easily transfer them to new hardware if my old hardware dies. Nintendo keeps dropping the ball on this which is why I keep emulating their games instead of buying them legit. When they finally get a good account system that isn't tied to hardware I'll be glad to start buying their games.
Either way, this is a good sign. The 3DS may have ruined Miyamoto and Iwata's careers. Miyamoto did "retire" from general manager (kind of like Yokoi left Nintendo after the Virtual Boy bombed). Maybe Iwata wants to avoid being fired from the company. Might be too late, though. The financial damage has been done to the company, and on his watch. They might be letting him try to exit the company with some dignity and make up for letting the developers run wild at the company's expense.
I wouldn't say "folk are over it" I just think it's gotten to the point where it's not really an exciting new novelty anymore. Considering 3D Movies, Games & T.V.s are becoming more plentiful I'd say 3D is slowly gaining more tracktion. It'll never become the new standard, it's just a nice alternative that some people like.
I rarely turn off the 3D on my 3DS. It's makes the experience more immersive for me. Strange that others have such strong feelings against 3D given that it is entirely optional.
I love 3D. It is unfair to judge the format by the morons who can't use it well. Look at Coraline. Amazing movie made more amazing by 3D.
Also Step Up 3D was better than Inception.
That is all.
Also Step Up 3D was better than Inception.
That is all.
Sorry, but what a fucking idiot. A ten year old could tell them it was a "passing fad". Even then, it was a "fad" fucked up the ass by companies making 3D stuff, not people wanting 3D.
to each there own... but there's only 2 times I'd see a 3D movie willingly:
1. james cameron directed it.
2. I got the ticket for free / someone else bought them
I haven't tried any gaming in 3d though... i'd be marginally interested, but if I didn't already have 2 HD TV's in the house... I'd still rather wait for 4K.
1. james cameron directed it.
2. I got the ticket for free / someone else bought them
I haven't tried any gaming in 3d though... i'd be marginally interested, but if I didn't already have 2 HD TV's in the house... I'd still rather wait for 4K.
@trist
that's not my point, they're all after the next gimmick, that's what I'm saying
3D is old as fuck, even virtua boy had it
that's not my point, they're all after the next gimmick, that's what I'm saying
3D is old as fuck, even virtua boy had it
Except it was never popular in the first place, just like all the other times it's failed. Seeing 2d images projected across multiple planes is not "3D" and no one is ever going to care about that stupid gimmick.
@Wedge Then why are movies still being shown in 3d? And why is the 3ds selling shit tons more than the Vita? Obviously many care about it. I see 3d being around forever now, it will ALWAYS have an audience. Sucks for you dick brains that wish it dead doesn't it?
There was never a fad with *people*, it was always a *business* fad. One where the technology became attainable in a more unobtrusive way, and execs decided they could cash in on it and make movie tickets cost more -- so they forced the theater industry to buy up projector technology that that industry couldn't possibly pay off anytime soon, and then flooded those theaters with ridiculously priced movies, just to save the entire industry.
Nintendo (and other companies, like Sony) decided that this was something people were actually wanting, since people were actually paying to see these movies. But every (almost, 98% at least. Avatar withstanding) movie came with an asterisk that says people are saying how terrible they look, how they're a waste of that extra money spent and quickly became about how much they hated 3D. Even cinematographers say its a nightmare to shoot for, because the tech is still not where it should be to get the most of it.
And never mind we actually see in 3D, and any good cinematographer (and very obviously, modern game maker) should be able to make "impactful" images easily with what they have, and not with a blurry gimmick.
Don't get me wrong, the 3D on the 3DS is fun, but it was never going to change the world like Nintendo (or that one phone maker, maybe Samsung? Commercials all but disappeared for that phone) thought it would. Only the industries pushing these things, wanted these things.
Nintendo (and other companies, like Sony) decided that this was something people were actually wanting, since people were actually paying to see these movies. But every (almost, 98% at least. Avatar withstanding) movie came with an asterisk that says people are saying how terrible they look, how they're a waste of that extra money spent and quickly became about how much they hated 3D. Even cinematographers say its a nightmare to shoot for, because the tech is still not where it should be to get the most of it.
And never mind we actually see in 3D, and any good cinematographer (and very obviously, modern game maker) should be able to make "impactful" images easily with what they have, and not with a blurry gimmick.
Don't get me wrong, the 3D on the 3DS is fun, but it was never going to change the world like Nintendo (or that one phone maker, maybe Samsung? Commercials all but disappeared for that phone) thought it would. Only the industries pushing these things, wanted these things.
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