PC gamers already hopping mad at Infinity Ward over the lack of dedicated servers in Modern Warfare 2 might want to skip this story. The studio has responded to a number of fan questions surrounding the controversial decision, and the answer isn't what you want to hear. Even moreso, it's been revealed that servers across all platforms, PC included, will max out at eighteen players.
"All I can say is that we changed it to make it a better and easier experience. Also, not all of the names on that list are legit," said Infinity Ward, when talking about the MW2 server petition and downplaying the significance of its 178,000 signatures.
"402 signed it 4 times I heard," adds IW's Mackey McAndlish, while also revealing that, "Games cap out at 9v9. The software has great latency tolerance."
Infinity Ward has infuriated many PC gamers with its server decision and subsequent defense of that decision. Of course, when you're making the biggest shooter of the year, I guess you can afford to piss off thousands of your customers and get away with it. If the lack of dedicated servers is a big deal to you, all I can suggest is that you chill out and look forward instead to Left 4 Dead 2 or something. Seems MW2 is very much a lost cause for you.
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10:40 AM on 11.04.2009
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At 9 vs 9 I'm seriously just as well off playing CS. :p
Or perhaps Infinity Ward know most PC gamers would pirate it anyway, so don't feel the need to win their loyalty?
Dude don't EVER say that, most PCers DO buy their games, and shit like that is what get companies doing crap like this.
Maybe. I know if I were IW I'd be making this thing look as good as Tera Patrick after a bowl of hash and a 6 pack of beer but maybe that's just because I give a shit.
I play MW everyday and the servers are full almost all the time - think You cant play with a pirated version ?
people who will pirate the game don't care about multiplayer anyway
We're a bunch of elitist jerks, yes. Our aura of entitlement isn't helping the cause right now. At the same time, at least with regard to certain things, we've experienced better for a long time (though the debate of servers v. matchmaking is still up in the air).
For those who remember, Steam took a HELL of a long time to catch on, back in the day when only Valve games were using it, and only really did when it became the de facto standard for How You Play Games On The PC Now.
I believe that this is the case with IW net, SO LONG as they can leap those hurdles. If not, we really DO get a lesser game for it.
"people who will pirate the game don't care about multiplayer anyway"
yes... and by gimping multiplayer they took out the one reason some pirate would consider buying a legit version...
NOT PIRATING
NOT SUPPORTING
Peace out.
A suggestion: Battlefield: Bad Company 2.They seem to give a shit about PC gamers, give them your money.
@Jim Sterling
One would then question why they are even bothering with the IW.net system which they have personally claimed is a *more* expensive investment rather than allowing dedicated servers. Of course IW could also be openly lying too but that would mean there are ulterior motives.
I love ground war.
that was the point i was suggesting to Jim Sterling, yes
people who will definitely download the game don't care about multiplayer
but people who could've wanted to play multiplayer and were thinking about buying the game now have serious doubts. that is if they weren't having doubts when activision raised the price on the game, anyway
"Or perhaps Infinity Ward know most PC gamers would pirate it anyway, so don't feel the need to win their loyalty?"
MOST PC gamers are pirates? What the fuck? Did you just fall on your head?
Funny because it has already been pirated for the 360, is it any harder on any format? http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=226587 Couldn't be arsed with BB code =>
The danger or pissing off PC gamers is you have to hear the whiny fuckers moan all the time. At the moment as my 360 is dead I am back to PC gaming only as I have been many times before but I still don't class myself as a PC gamer. PC gamers are elitist moaning-faced twats in all honesty.
They are going to have start dealing with the fact that soon enough (I give it a few years at least though) that games will be standard across all formats and I can see an amalgamated Games for Windows/Xbox live happening. This will be due to pirating and also the younger ones - post 80's kids - scared to enter PC gaming due to hardware/software issues and of course the elitist PC gamer knobs who scare them all away because they don't know what hyper-threading, water cooled or who Guybrush Threepwood is.
NB I do feel for the Americans though as I've heard the game is more expensive than the console versions.
"people who will pirate the game don't care about multiplayer anyway"
Actually that's not true at all. Ever heard of private servers?
The reason this is so insulting is that CoD4 was a perfect PC port with all the features that the PC crowd wanted. Then Infinity Ward (a normally PC friendly company) goes and fucks it in the ass.
Whatever.
ever heard of how they usually suck?:)
it's simply not the same. yeah, sure most MMO's out there also have pirate servers for them, but is it the same as playing on the "licensed" (let's put it like that) server?
I don't hardly ever pirate PC games, but I'll make an exception here. These guys are douches.
And the funny thing is they most certainly can get away with it. The game is going to sell a bajillion copies on Xbox and PS3, even if every PC gamer in the world boycotted it it probably wouldn't hurt them too badly.
Blah.
World at War PC - 32v32
Modern Warfare 2 PC - 9v9
Since it's a console port, essentially, just buy the console version this time around.
As far as the PC GAMERS ARE PIRATES LOL argument goes:
I know for a fact that there's a ton of people in this community that pirate 360 games. It works both ways. I can also log into World at War right now on PC, and on my 360, ten feet away, and see an equal number of gamers online.
MW2 Is the Most Pre-Ordered Game of all time. No one can stop that. But, by saying that some of those signatures aren't legit and don't prove to be a real voice?
Mackey McAndlish I always buy two copies of your games - A console version to play with my friends that don't play PC Games and then the PC Version to play on Dedicated Servers. By your remarks and IW's treatment of all of this. No, I will not be purchasing anymore of IW's Games. For that matter I won't be purchasing anymore Activison Titles either.
Call Of Duty, I had some great memories. But It looks like I'll be playing L4D2. Also I bought a 4 pack to share with friends so they won't be buying MW2 Either. GOOD GAME IW.
tl;dr Thank you Jim For bringing these quotes to press. Screw you IW.
Good thing Valve and Dice aren't douchébags and value their customers.
@Josh Tolentino
Lawl Steam early days. Updates every other day. Praying it would update and not crash. Those were the days.
@Yehat
I just finished Borderlands a second time around, and I must say that changing the .ini files making the game way more playable (and fun). Gearbox did not put in alot of features, however did say how to change some of them. I got a feeling like Borderlands was made for console, ported to PC. There is some PS3 and XBox 360 code in the .ini files.
Now IW why dont you go throught the back door and screw yourself while we play some, you know... real games that havent been overhyped.
No, really:
COD4 was geat for anyone who touched the pc version, it was a blast of fun in MP mode. I bought it only because of the MP. I thought: "how are they going to improve it if its already near perfect?"
And now they piss on PC gaming. So, Im not supporting it. 9v9 is s*** for PC´S standards and no dedicated server is even worse for everyone that doesnt live in the great US plains.
Also, agree with Eduh.
EA/Dice has specifically said PC gaming is not dead, and this move by Activision is despicable.
Valve also shares the same sentiments, and the community for every single online Valve game is larger on the PC: then you have Blizzard, which still has millions of fans playing decade old games, and every current MMO, which have tens of millions of subscribers as a whole. You also have developers like Bioware which put out inferior console versions (Dragon Age). So no, it's not dead.
Sad thing since Call of Duty recived a LOT of support when it was a PC-only tittle inclusive. By this time there are a lot of people who have downloaded the game illegaly in the 360 and already beated it so, what's next?, don't give a shit about the Xbox too?.
Maybe you're right anyway, but.. how bad.
"No dedicated servers means no private servers for the pirates. All the people bitching and moaning are the pirates that are pissed that they can't fucking run their own servers to play with their pirate friends."
I got a legit copy of MW (and other of my games)... but I'm pissed because I dont want to (and will not) buy a gimped version of the game just because consoles cant handle more players or some other retarded reason... Next thing we wont be able to up the res and AA because thats how the console version is made...
You don't need dedicated servers to have private servers in a PC game, d00der. Do your research before you bash a platform!
"ever heard of how they usually suck?"
Actually they work just fine. The MMO private servers are a completely different beast. But private servers for FPS's don't really have any cons to them, except rampant hackers.
I think the only ones happy about this game will be Ps3 and 360 owners.
You need a legit key to play online. Hacked servers for pirated copies are few, with outdated patches and bad ping. You are my favorite editor Jim, but Dtoid seriously need a pc gamer on their staff or just report the news with no editorial content.
But like I said, I'm not about to say that everybody should be amenable to this. I'm sure there are people who played Modern Warfare on the PC and loved 16 v 16 matches or whatever. They shouldn't be ignored.