2:33 AM on 10.27.2007
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Sleep is for babies, gamers play all night! That's right, we here at Destructoid believe that videogames are a valid substitute for a good night's rest. As it turns out, the wonderful people at Valve share this belief with us (or maybe just Doug Lombardi?), because we just got word that the second update for The Orange Box (Xbox 360 version) is out right now. The patch will primarily affect Team Fortress 2, as detailed below: - Reduced network bandwidth usage in multiplayer.
- Improved overall game performance.
- Arranged search results to favor preferred host conditions.
- Improved searching for ranked games.
- Addressed a possible false report of too little storage space on larger hard drives.
If you talk to anyone who's played Team Fortress 2 in the last couple of weeks, you'll most likely get one of two responses. You will hear unrivaled amounts of praise for the game if the person you're speaking with is a PC gamer, but if he/she happens to have played TF2 on the 360, you are going to hear lots of shouting and words like "lag" and "unplayable" will be brought up constantly. I can't say how much better Team Fortress 2 will perform after this update (I have The Orange Box for PC), so that's where you guys will have to come into play. Has anyone gotten a chance to try out the game with the new patch yet? [Thanks, Doug!] |
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God, I don't even want to know how fucked up it is on PS3.
Well, I'll test it out tonight, then. Think of it as Destructoid investigative reporting.
now ill go buy it.
And there will be much rejoycing. For 360 friends.
Not many people play TF2....There are like four listed games on player games. Sad...
Lol love that photo!
How many lag in "ms" is unbereable? Because i play the PC version with 200ms (crappy location in south america, long distance, bad infraestructure).
Any improvements in the 360 version?
the lag was bearable for me before the patch...
The lag was generally pretty bad, especially with me having had fantastic experiences with the game on Steam on my PC, and having just played me some Halo. Some games were alright, but in general it was pretty bad. Hopefully the patch will clear things up, i'll jump on tomorrow evening.
Typo: it should say The patch will primarily affect Team Fortress 2, instead of effect. Heres a note on usage from Merriam-Webster (if you find it a bit confusing, just focus on the last sentence, and that should be enough):
usage Effect and affect are often confused because of their similar spelling and pronunciation. The verb affect (usage 2) usually has to do with pretense <she affected a cheery disposition despite feeling down>. The more common affect (usage 3) denotes having an effect or influence <the weather affected everyones mood>. The verb effect goes beyond mere influence; it refers to actual achievement of a final result <the new administration hopes to effect a peace settlement>. The uncommon noun affect, which has a meaning relating to psychology, is also sometimes mistakenly used for the very common effect. In ordinary use, the noun you will want is effect <waiting for the new law to take effect> <the weather had an effect on everyones mood>.
Oh yeah, about the game: I hope there are none of these issues on the PS3 version...
It was bullshit for me, >=( Framerates jumping down to damn near a standstill then I'd just get dc'd. I pay for the 360's online service for this shit ?! It better be fucking fixed. M$ really needs to get their heads outta their asses.
I was waiting for this to be patched before buying the game, but I finally broke down yesterday and bought it. Played through portal (awesome) and it was about midnight when I was playing Half Life 2 and I got disconnected from live for this patch.
Huzzah!
fail. pc version better
agreed with mack
i feel bad for anyone who bought this for consoles...
It isnt bad as some of you are making it out, I've played in many 8 on 8 matches over live that played smoothly, granted I could never host a game that was more than 4 on 4 before the patch, the game is still great on the consoles
Man if I was limited to 8 on 8 for fort I'd probably be bored outta my mind
I've never had too bad of a connection online, and my Internet sucks. I've had a few games I've lagged out of, but it has generally been perfectly playable.
I disagree with cjpkiller, why would you feel bad for people who bought this on a console? I've loved every minute I've spent with each game in The Orange Box. I'm not really into PC games, but I certainly don't feel bad for you because you buy them.
Haha dammit all! I know the difference between affect and effect, but not at 3:30 a.m. when I'm writing posts apparently.
So, any difference LIVE users?
Yep, it is much better. I was actually able to have a legitimate game of TF2 without it being totally ruined by lag. Woo hoo!
Thank Fucking God! Maybe now I can actually finish some matches!
Wow, I must be stupid, because i love it on my XBox 360. It does lag, though I don't think I'd throw around the word "unplayable" unless it's also with "sporadically."
And the only part of this you can blame on microsoft is the fact that the patch took two weeks to hit because of their approval procedures. I don't like M$ anymore than the next guy, but blame for the now repaired lag issue falls squarely on Valve's shoulders.
It actually lags more for me now, no joke.
I haven't lagged since I first got the game. Today I fire it up and sure enough, laggin' all over the place.
Maybe it was just the house.
I'm the man at that game anyway.
It wasn't so bad until about a week ago for me. But when it hit it was COMPLETELY unplayable. It was all related to the number of players in the game though. I could tell the cut-off point seemed to be somewhere between 10 and 14 (depending on the host) since it would always start with someone joining and then always go back to normal when someone quit.
When the game works though, it's fun as hell!
After the patch, the game became a lot more fun.
The Pyro finally became what he should be: the dominant close range class.
The demoman now only has 4 grenades in his launcher, but the fuse is quite a bit shorter.
But...
Now level 1 turrets push you back too.
Seriously, turrets ruin this game. Why promote camping? The things are rediculously fast and lethal. And very easy to build once you have a dispenser set up.
@Dead Moose
that's lame. If anything, I thought the turrets needed to be nerfed a bit.
Turrets are not a big deal if you know how to take care of them. Snipers and demo men are more than a match for any turret if you use them correctly. There's also the ubercharge to take into consideration. If you're any good / smart, then you've probably realized that it's your bread and butter for taking out turrets.
TF2 is actually incredibly well balanced - I've found almost nothing to complain about. Every class has glaring weaknesses and shining, glorious specialties. And playing on steam reduces the swearing d-bag content by at least 80% compared to Live. PC FTW!
I played maybe 1-2 hours after the patch. Same lag, same random disconnect.
Sorry but I refuse to play games under 16 people. Valve fix this or buy dedicated servers.
I have the right to whine because i pay for xbox live and i paid for this game.
Good to know for when I eventually pick up the Orange Box. Actually buying a 360 kinda killed my wallet for a while.
The new patch seems to be working great so far. I played TF2 a lot yesterday and everything was working great. There was very minimal lag and it was amazing.
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