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Earlier this week, I was having a conversation with ScrewAttack's Destin L about the gaming press, most notably about how so many videogames lately are getting incredibly high review scores, with nearly every major release apparently able to do no wrong -- even though gamers themselves later come out to say such games weren't even all that good.

As we theorized why this could be, I came upon the possible conclusion that positive press was being motivated by fear, and the more I think about it, the more likely it seems. As I scan the gamer community and find what seems to be a rabid and possibly deranged army of quasi-human attack dogs, it's difficult to not draw a correlation between rampant fanboys going off the rails and a gaming press that doesn't want to step out of line and say bad things about a game. 

This article isn't an accusation, and I don't intend to point fingers at anybody. We are merely posing a question here. Is the gaming press scared of its readers?

We published an article yesterday that pointed out a number of game design tricks that developers use to falsely extend the length of their games. It was of course, merely an honest and personal opinion, but it seems that many among the gaming community don't actually want honesty in their games coverage. They would rather only ever read the words of someone completely marching in step with their way of thinking. Thus it was that Mega Man 9 was criticized for something, without being written off as complete garbage, and a number of people flipped their lids.

It's not just that they disagreed. Oh no, that would be too tame for them. Unlike those who responded to the article with respectful disagreement, a number of readers simply could not help themselves piling on the personal insults. Now, I've been doing this job for almost three years and I've been called every name under the sun. The constant stream of gay jokes and fat jokes and remarks about my ability as a writer is something I've had to get used to. That seems to be the wage of having a personal opinion and daring to share it. 

That said, it really does get to you sometimes, and it wouldn't surprise me if some writers see the pure vitriol and venom that gets poured all over their peers and decide that they don't want any part of it. I get this feeling that a number of games media outlets see this kind of bullshit happening and will do anything to appease the wrath of a fanbase that, to be honest, is made up of a significant number of petulant and spoiled brats who seem to think that trying to be as personal and hurtful as possible is just punishment for someone not reacting to a game they like with complete adoration. 

One of my favorite examples, of course, is Killzone 2, which has unfortunately become inextricably linked with insane and childish fanboyism. The notorious Totalvideogames.com review of the game gave it an 8/10, and it was followed by a 40-page-plus comment thread of some of the most insulting and disgusting bile I've ever been ashamed to read on the Internet. Who seriously goes into this business to be shat upon like that? I can hardly find it a stretch to imagine that people are writing just to give the people what they want, rather than what they think. 

When I wrote my own Killzone 2 review and gave it a 9.5, it was suggested by some that I'd done so to avoid a shitstorm, very much like I'm theorizing here. I can't convince you that I did not, and I also can't blame anybody for thinking that was the case, especially as I'd had people before the review practically attempting to bully me into giving it a high score. 

A number of games seem "protected" by their fans these days, and they will go out of their way to not just defend a game, but tear to shreds anybody who dares threaten the aura of perfection that they have surrounded their favorite game with. You can't point out the myriad flaws in Fallout 3 without Bethesda fans going on the warpath. Woe betide any who dares to suggest that Halo 3 isn't all that great. Let's not forget those who spoke out about Sonic Unleashed ... oh. Well maybe they got away with it. 

I still remember the 8.0 Grand Theft Auto IV review we did, the one that someone said "flew in the face of popular opinion." How DARE we do such a thing? How dare we turn the world on its head by having the gall to suggest that a great game should get a great score, and not a perfect one? Is it any wonder that the title received almost unanimous critical acclaim, with those kinds of reactions waiting in the wings for a less-than-perfect score? Again, many of the game's reviewers may indeed have felt that it was the greatest game ever made, and a new Ocarina of Time for our generation. I am merely wondering aloud if the potential backlash from readers might have had anything to do with it.

I think the best commenters are the ones that impugn the writer's "journalistic integrity" at the same time they are basically demanding to be lied to. I'm not sure if they're aware of the blatant hypocrisy that comes with demanding integrity alongside insincere pandering, but it's hilarious to see nonetheless. Then there are the ones that sidestep your writing and just go for you as a person. Apparently, the way you write gives people a deep insight into your personal life, and they'll rake it up just because they disagree with you and can't handle it. In many ways, these fanboys are acting like fucking terrorists ... except somehow with even more sexual repression.

Who wants to deal with whining children on a daily basis? I don't, even though most days I unfortunately seem to. However, in a business that is based on pageviews and readers coming back for more, I dare say a number of outlets will say or do anything in order to stop their fans from going elsewhere. I've had a number of readers tell me they would "quit the site" over a particular review, taking their business elsewhere like a stuck-up bitch who didn't like their waiter in a restaurant. America especially has a "make the customer feel like royalty, even if they're stupid trash" policy, and I think that can easily carry over into games media. 

Without naming names, I've had some writers speak to me in the past and talk about being "worried" over an article they're working on. The articles themselves have been perfectly fine -- well written, honest and perfectly fair. However, they've been worried about the reader backlash because they really don't like being called an "ugly fucking cunt with no talent" because they're just doing what they love doing. One can, of course, just write it off with the attitude that "it's just the Internet," but show me someone who puts their genuine personality and face on the Internet and doesn't get at least a little affected by personal remarks, and I'll show you a liar or a psychopath. 

It's nothing new, either. Do you know why FOX News blames violent crime on videogames instead of stupid parents who aren't living up to their responsibilities? It's because FOX News is watched by stupid parents who aren't living up to their responsibilities, and they don't want to deal with the backlash. Why does the Daily Mail complain about immigrants? Because its readership is a bunch of fascist van drivers who have gotten it into their heads that England is somehow a "pure" thoroughbred nation. Most media outlets have forsaken honesty in the name of pandering, and I fear that games media is just the same -- people not saying what they want to say, just what their followers want to hear.  

I'm certainly not saying that everybody in the gamer community is this sniveling, crying, infantile little shithead, of course. I've had the privilege of getting to know some incredibly cool members of the community and having some intelligent debates with those who disagreed with one of my statements, but were able to not get emotional as if I just shot their mother in the head and fucked the hole. Sadly, however, these are not the people with the loudest voices. They are not the ones creating 40-plus-page threads full of abuse. 

It is unfortunate, but I believe that a number of writers have resigned themselves to the fact that there are simply too many babies in the gaming community, and have started to just write to keep them from throwing a tantrum. It's the path of least resistance, after all, and they still get paid at the end of the day, minus an army of feral kids snapping at their heels. 

Who can blame 'em, really?


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eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:05
eternalplayer2345
Oh Jim we only abuse who become we want to tenderize that meat <3
nice clothes's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:11
nice clothes
I don't always agree with you Jim, but this is a fantastic article. Anyone who resorts to personal attacks in an argument has already lost.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:11
AgentMOO
For what it's worth, these fucks are a vocal minority. The majority of people who tune in do so to get enjoyment out of Destructoid's community, and irreverent flavor of news and stories. The fact that you're getting so many of these half wits on the far side of the bell curve is an unfortunate side effect of the large readership.
Gyrael's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:12
Gyrael
Very true. It doesn't really justify journalists from not being honest but there's definately a lot of idiots flying around on the internets.

Just keep doing what you're doing, Jim.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:14
Volomon
I think their afraid of their bosses, afraid for their jobs. Check out a review for Black & White, a game which doesn't have RABID fans or anything else. The first one is rated near as close to a 10 as most games can get. This was because Lionhead was pumping out MAJOR advertisement money. Come around to Black & White 2 which was an IMPROVED version of Black & White, with a lot of the bugs and kinks worked out. Such as poor mouse to hand signaling, AI issues, ect ect,. Even with added features. What is the score around 8.

Went from almost 10 to almost 8. Why? Lack of advertising/hype for the second.

Reviews are motivated by how many items a reviewer gets (you know what I mean) how many direct interviews with the company, exclusive interviews, shots, videos. The more they promote those who advertise the more they know that company will come back.

There are already known companies who do not even get review copies of games because they continually underrate the companies games.

You know this.
dj-anon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:16
dj-anon
"This article isn't an accusation, and I don't intend to point fingers at anybody."

I don't mind doing that. Sellouts are sellouts, deceivers are deceivers, cowards are cowards.
AKK's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:17
AKK
I give this article a 10/10, because Jim pressured me into doing so.
Aberrant Thought's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:19
Aberrant Thought
This is a well-written article Mr. Sterling,

I don't pretend to understand how someone can be so bloody defensive over a game. I have had people insult games I like, but I usually shrug it off. For example, "The Call of Cthulhu: The Dark Corners of the Earth" remains as one of my most treasured games. Still even if someone came up to me and said 'CoC is shit because the combat system sucks!' I'd have to concede to their criticism of the combat system because it was shoddy. However nothing they'd say would keep me from playing it again and again.

It's too easy to overthink this sort of concern. I have to agree with you that the best explanation for this does relate a lot to the 'Customer is Loyalty' attitude. Having had worked in a restaurant I saw many folks treat our waitstaff like shit for seemingly no reason other than they could get away with it. It's the bullshit sense of entitlement that these folk seem to have. "It's me or nothing! I'm the most important one here! It's what I want! Me! Me! Me!" It's that kind of attitude that probably gets drawn over into video games.

Or we can simplify my statement into the following, "People are smelly half-flaccid cock-itches and they should eff off into Hell."
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:21
eternalplayer2345
Who? Make that you. I haven't slept in over a day. It does get quite said when you could more or less judge how good of a score and game will get based on hype(destructoid excluded). I always wondered why people became so apprehensive is you bad mouth a game they like. Until Famitsu gave Brawl a 40, it made me realize since I was riding the brawl hype train probably harder than most exactlty why people act the way they do. They spend months and sometimes more than a year obsessing over a BIG release and it becomes their life. Their days spent in baited breath waiting for that magical day known as release day. When valhalla will open and they will experience joy incomprehensible.

So when an article comes along a doesn't declare "the single greatest achievement in human history" they get mad. Not mad at the reviewer like they act but mad at the game itself for it is not the promised land of milk and honey they built up in their mind. I would say in all honestly if Brawl or Killzone 2 didn't have an army behind it months before it came out. It would be interesting to see the reactions to reviews and even if the reviews themselves would change. Because hype does effect us all even reviewers like yourself(not your fault, every review is plagued). So I guess we can truly start to appreciate games wholly as their self when we stop caring about them. I hope that made sense, once agian. Tired, ramblings.
wanderingpixel's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:23
wanderingpixel
I agree 100%. I'm sorry to say this, but game journalists need to get some brass and say what they really think. Part of being a critic is giving your honest opinion, no matter what anyonen else thinks. Even if people yell and bitch about it, you have to stand your ground and not give into pressure.

Good journalism is not giving people what they want, it's giving people what they need.
lightbombmike's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:24
lightbombmike
I think this is actually the reason why so many sites dedicated to the hardcore have set their default previews and opinions to "prick." It allows them to seem hardcore across the board and not get burned in the end if a game sucks. The line between blogger, commenter, and journalist is so insanely blurred in this industry, that trying to find ANY truth, from the press, fans, or developers is next to impossible. Everyone tries to play an angle to get more sales, more hits, or more friends.
megaStryke's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:29
megaStryke
"I've had a number of readers tell me they would 'quit the site' over a particular review, taking their business elsewhere like a stuck-up bitch who didn't like their waiter in a restaurant."

Perhaps they should quit gaming flat out. That's my honest suggestion.
TheGregsaw's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:32
TheGregsaw
This is why I don't look at review scores anymore. If I'm excited about a game, I might get it the day it comes out. If not, I'll wait and see what people say in a couple weeks.

Since reviews seem to be first impressions, I'd be very interested in follow-up reviews. Perhaps call it "A Month Later" or something like that

Anyway, I appreciate the honesty at destructoid. Keep it up
Dark Mark's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:34
Dark Mark
Who cares what the raging fanboy nerds think? Their impact is minimal. Theyre just a bunch of whiners.
Tell it like it is, Jim. I look for honesty in reviews, not blind faith.
gatorsax2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:39
gatorsax2010
If it's gotten to the point where the gaming press is scared of its readers, that's really sad. What's sadder is that this fear is actually pretty justified. The most rabid fanboys are truly frightening, and I'm not sure what they wouldn't do. They're full of ridiculous amounts of hyperbolic anger and hate, the likes of which should only be reserved for rage at someone murdering one's family (and even then it might be a tad much), and all over video games. The fact that people are STILL commenting on the Killzone review (and that it's still anger and not "lol internet drama") just depresses me. IT'S A GAME. THAT'S ALL.

STFUAJPG
Brock Samson's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:42
Brock Samson
Well Jim people wouldn't throw insults at you if you weren't such a biased microshitting fagtart. It's the only response really.
Mr Wrighty 987's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:46
Mr Wrighty 987
Fanboys cry over every thing and you can never win
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:46
Harris Hatsworth
It's a pretty standard fear as far as I can tell. You have to know when you're being criticised but you can't specifically pay attention to it for too long before it starts to hurt you.

I like your writing style Jim despite the controversy it can cause (primarily among people that for some reason can't tell when you're kidding or not) and trust that you have your head in the right place and know what you're talking about.
killatia's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:47
killatia
Well written article jim.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:50
Chronic Logic
Video game reviewers are PROFESSIONALS. Video gamers are just people who play to have fun. The reviewers have a lot more experience to boot, they play through a whole bunch of games that regular gamers probably don't play. The reviewers go through a much more methodical process of telling what makes a good game or not. Lastly, reviewers are supposed to to be neutral not bias, unlike gamers.

Another reason why reviewers tend to have a different score than gamers is that the video game press reviewers are dependent on video game companies or publishers to give them their daily dose of previews, trailers, interviews, and scoops, and also advance review copies of the games. If the reviewers give those game a bad score, the game companies and publishers may refuse to give them anything else unless they are more "nicer". Naturally reviewers are wary of this and try to give a unbiased but sort of accurate score in order to appease the video game companies and publishers while at the same time not dissapoint the fans.
blackdeath1347's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:51
blackdeath1347
This is so true! This is why I respect OXM. They give really honest reviews and when someone attacks the review they will defend their score. One example was that they gave Dead Space a 6/10 and most people freaked out! While I loved Dead Space I didn't freak out with everyone else and hate the reviewer. It was that reviewer's opinion and I respected that honesty. Hopefully more people will be more like Jim and this OXM reviewer and give honest reviews and opinions.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:56
Kyousuke Nanbu
I took issue with the half truths in your article.

Unlike most people here I don't just gloss over your article and say "GOOD JOB JIM", I read the whole thing and if there's something I don't like I call you on it.

Calling you fat was not needed that's true but you have the habit of insulting this community numerous times and you've published tons of articles that are just thinly disguised trolling, whenever I see an article here with 200+ comments, 90% of the time its you who wrote it, if you can't take it then just quite, I personally won't give a shit and will be quite happy that you're gone but don't whine about "babies" in this community when you do your damdnest to poke at them and insult them, I could have taken this article coming from anyone else but not, this is hypocrisy at its finest, you have no room to complain about the people insulting you when you do it to them.

You reap what you sow Sterling.

I can't comment for those other sites but I can on you, I agree with you on the part that some people get to attached to big name games and bitch and moan when it doesn't get an 11/10 but not on the rest, stop being such a cockmunch and maybe people won't respond the way they do to you.

If you want proof, read any other writer here, read their comments, you are the only one here that gets a lot hate and vitrol, you ever wonder why?

Brad, Collette, Niero, Dale, Nick, Hamza, I have never seen a single angry comment in their articles, but yours? All the time depending on what its about, I think your best written piece was the one about banning other substances but beyond that, its just you and your troll-fest pieces which I imagine your write like that get a raise out of people.

Best example I can think of your attitude was the Too Human debacle, you gave it a 2, your review was full of half truths and it was obvious you didn't try other classes and people said so in your comments, how did you respond to them? You wrote a joke a blog and gave it an 11/10.

So yea, YOU get those replies because of the way you act, YOU get those replies because of your past behavior so I'm going to use a line D-toiders love so damn much, STFU and stop whining.

And I urge the rest of community to do their own research, I know a fair group of people who would be more than happy to visit d-toid every single day and make it their number 1 news site if Jim was gone and that has nothing to do with Jim's quality of articles, just his past history.

Christ, even in the podtoid you acted like a dick, how do the other writers stand you?
ScrewAttackDestin's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 13:56
ScrewAttackDestin
My thought is that the reviewers are more worried that if they review a game and they honestly don't like it then their opinion will become less valid in future reviews. If everyone is giving Resistance 2 95% and someone comes out and says "I don't like this" and gives it a 70% people will flip out and question the validity of the review, but isn't that why we are here as reviewers? To express our opinion of a particular game?
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:02
ShadokatRegn
I actually had a similar conversation amongst the staff on another website; we came to the conclusion (through one of the editors, who is a former troll himself) that the readers have a tendency to develop jealous crushes on the editors, and desperately crave attention from those editors. Kind of like the really bad kid in class; the teacher always remembers them for better or worse.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:16
Naim Master
STFU , YOU FAT LIAR HOMOSEXUAL XBOT , GO DO GAY STUFF WHILE YOU EAT MCDONALDS AND SUCK BILL GATES BLAZZ !
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:19
Naim Master
Who are we trying to fool ? The truth is , we're all virgins that saw WAY too much hentai , and now we think that showing love to someone is calling her a bitch and making public anal rape orgies ...
Sup3rt3d's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:27
Sup3rt3d
I hope that dickhead LLIINNKK (or whatever he was called) from the Megaman thread turns up to commnet on this. Retarded people are funny.
XivSpew's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:31
XivSpew
For every person spending 6 goddamn paragraphs explicitly explaining how you suck and lamenting your existence on this site, there's about 99 other people who really enjoy your work but wouldn't dream of getting caught in an argument in a comment thread about a blogger's writing style. I feel those who take the time to say "even in the podtoid you acted like a dick, how do the other writers stand you?" are more interested in seeing their words online than contributing anything remotely useful, whereas the majority of people who really, really dig your work (i.e. me) haven't even considered jumping into the fray. All i'm saying is that looking through the prism of user's comments and forum posts while being a writer for a website can be incredibly deceptive and misleading without a healthy distanced perspective.

Well, that's my one comment for the next six months...toodles!
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:32
Naim Master
@kyosuke nambu

Even though I have some dangerously awkward atraction for Jim's useless articles (he has a Gamesradar kind of trash , entertaining) I have to agree with you , half of Jim's articles are pure flame baits , and all of them have a little flamebaiting in it , I just guess that Jim needs attention/gets paid per comment/sees too much hentai ...
kwaselow's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:37
kwaselow
I think Destructoid should dod what youtube did and take a hint from xkcd.

There should be a feature that allows you to hear your comments spoken back to you before you post it. Because then, a lot of the retards who whine about a low score given to a game that hasn't come out yet, and one which they've NEVER ACTUALLY PLAYED, can hear how retarded they sound
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:38
Naim Master
@Chronic Logic

This is the most BS I heard this year .
larktenchi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:39
larktenchi
Jim HAS an opinion. He's entitled to it.

So do you. And me.

At least he is HONEST about who he really is...

And I support him for that.
Brian Keljore's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:40
Brian Keljore
I rather enjoy Jim's review style. I feel it is honest, that he gives the games a chance to impress him, and that he tries his damnedest to point our flaws that might break the game for some in games that he likes. The man plays Dynasty Warriors, for Christ's sake, and he enjoys it. Does that stop him from ripping on it occasionally, hell no.

As someone who was often made the pariah way back when Final Fantasy VII was the best RPG EVAR, I can relate to the words in this article. People can be stupid defensive about their favorite games and will lash out at those who speak ill of it. If you were in the business of making money selling your opinion to others, you would be frightened if hordes of rapid fanboys were watching and waiting for your reviews. I say kudos to those who have the courage to give a highly anticipated game lower marks than the fanbase expects because its what the games deserve.

And its sad to see some people are already taking this article as a chance to make personal attacks against you. But I guess the internets are serious business.
notdryad's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:42
notdryad
"It was of course, merely an honest and personal opinion, but it seems that many among the gaming community don't actually want honesty in their games coverage. They would rather only ever read the words of someone completely marching in step with their way of thinking. Thus it was that Mega Man 9 was criticized for something, without being written off as complete garbage, and a number of people flipped their lids. "

For Christ's sake. You got called out because you used a poor example of trial-and-error gameplay. It has nothing to do with this crap about honesty in journalism. There were way better examples that you could have used: Ghosts N Ghouls and IWBTG.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:42
DaedHead8
"If you want proof, read any other writer here, read their comments, you are the only one here that gets a lot hate and vitrol, you ever wonder why?"

Are you stupid or something? I've got 6 words for you: Condemned Two, Twilight Princess, Anthony Burch.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:50
Naim Master
@DeadHead8

Anthony Burch is Jim's siamese twin , even more evil , they are in a eternal fight about art games and the irony of Rev's "oh , I'm so cult" personality and the piss poor quality of HAWP jokes ...
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 14:58
Syn
"Anyone who resorts to personal attacks in an argument has already lost."

@Kyousuke Nambu: you're kind of proving a point I was going to make without any help at all. Even though you may have said something worth hearing, your way of going about it makes your opinion shit to everyone. From what I understand, Too Human does indeed suck, but I don't know, so I won't go into it. But I'm willing to bet that the people that disagreed with Jim's review didn't put their opinions even remotely as "politely" as your comment is leading me to believe.
Jon Bloodspray's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:01
Jon Bloodspray
"make the customer feel like royalty, even if they're stupid trash" - Anyone wait tables or bartend? I've tried to blow up so many hearts with my mind because of that shit.

I liked the article, and it's because of fanboys like that that I very rarely join forums. Hell, I was a reader of destructoid since damn near the beginning and only start posting in the last couple months. They infuriate me, not because of the opinions the spout, but because it reminds me that there are people like that out their. Ugh.
BlackDove's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:03
BlackDove
"I came upon the possible conclusion that positive press was being motivated by fear, and the more I think about it, the more likely it seems."

Wow, what a fucking philosopher you are. It's not like some of us were saying this exact same shit years and years ago.

I guess nobody ever really listens until they have to deal with the problem personally.

It all, in core, goes to Nintendo, and that is where the largest coefficient of this bullshit resides (because Nintendo were the first with a large enough audience for allegiances to fester). Everyone is a pussy ass bitch when it comes to talking about Nintendo in any kind of an official representative manner blog wise. "Nintendo does this and this bad, BUT, HOWEVER, ALTHOUGH" and then a list of positive things have to be written because a shitstorm is imminent if you do not put a positive spin on the article to pacify the morons.

I think Gerstmann is still getting death threats for that one review he did for some shitty ass Nintendo game (probably Zelda IIRC, which is the zenith of regurgitated [to use a word you used in another article, which I liked] pigshit in gaming). And this upcoming spirit train bullshit. Everyone barfed inside their mouth (anyone with a brain) when they saw it at GDC, and then went to their blogs and wrote "HAPPY DAYS, NEW ZELDA EVERYONE!" instead of "Look at this fucking uninventive bullshit they're trying to use as a cash cow for imbeciles once again."

Enjoy your craft. You, your co-workers and your brothers from other mothers (Kotaku, Joystiq, etc.) were largely helpful in its perpetration (as blogs are the new big thing). Revel.

(Like for example if someone reports this post. It won't be for all the swearing and how inappropriate it is (it's that too), it'll be because I said the last good Zelda game was twenty Zelda games ago, when it was original).
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:03
Mxyzptlk
This is the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever read. Games are rated high because they'll all great to better than perfect, and no member of the gaming press would ever fib a review score to placate the masses. I'm quitting the site.
Jon Bloodspray's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:04
Jon Bloodspray
@ Jon Bloodspray
Your grammar is atrocious, sir.
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:05
GrayFox
Nice piece Jim.
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:15
Harris Hatsworth
@ notdryad

Mega Man 9 is a perfect example of trial and error game-play. Yeah, pretty much any game with roots on the NES or arcades employs it but if there are people that take offense to stating a fact about game-play that is isn't even intrinsically negative then it's pretty clear they're just looking for an excuse to argue.
Ballistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:17
Ballistic
5000 bonus points for proper use of the word 'impugn'.
notdryad's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:19
notdryad
@Harris Hatsworth

Perfect example? No, it isn't. You might wanna look up a game called IWBTG before you start spouting off.
Jesus H Christ's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:25
Jesus H Christ
@Kyousuke: Jim just held up a mirror to your face and you failed to see your own reflection.

@Jim: All your reviews fall on deaf ears ever since you gave "I just shot their mother in the head and fucked the hole" a 7/10. Biased, so biased. And gay.
notdryad's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:30
notdryad
I think I'm gonna have to repeat something that was said last time this came up (credit to Eric), and this is paraphrased: Mega Man 9 is trial-and-error only if you suck. You want trial-and-error? Play IWBTG, Battletoads, and Ghosts N Ghouls. Those are games where you WILL die over and over and over because of instant kills, pitfalls, enemies spawning right in front of you; essentially, elements you can't avoid until you memorize the levels. In MM9, granted you don't just charge blindly like an idiot, you can dodge pretty much everything your first playthrough. I know this because I did. I wasn't charged blindly into a stage. I was being cautious. GASP, THE THOUGHT OF ACTUALLY THINKING WHEN YOU PLAY A VIDEO GAME. I know it's frightening, but try it once in a while, m'dears.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:31
Syn
@notdryad: TECHINCALLY it's called "I Wanna Be the Guy"
and just because there are other, better examples doesn't mean MM9 doesn't fit the Trial and Error gameplay formula perfectly.
flabzilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2009 15:34
flabzilla
I think some games can end up being technically good but being a dissapointment overall (well, to hardcore fans anyway)

Animal Crossing, Pokemon, even the recent RE5 are kind of examples of this.

The game gets great reviews, they are good games, they tick all the right boxes but some fans(the loudest ones) feel let down they feel more could be done and so whine about it but go over the top saying things like "WORST GAME EVAR"
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