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Is Super Mario Galaxy 2 the best platformer ever created? photo

The answer is yes.

Sound off in the comments!

Oh, I have to write more? Shoot. Okay, I will elaborate on why this is, but just know that there won’t be some kind of surprise ending at the conclusion of this feature. The “yes” may turn into a “YES!”, but, other than the enlarged typing, my opinion will not be swayed. NOT BE SWAYED, I TELL YOU!

In our perfect 10 review of Super Mario Galaxy 2, fellow editor and object of my man crush Dale North excitedly called the Wii sequel the “Best Mario Game Ever!” Obviously I agree with this. But I think it is even more than that. For me, Super Mario Galaxy 2 is the greatest platformer ever made. The best. The #1 platform game of all time. No question.

I know saying things are the “best thing ever” is a daily occurrence for me -- just today I have already eaten the best bowl of cereal ever, heard the best song ever, and even drove down the best street I have ever driven on -- but don’t let my hyperbole-fueled views diminish your trust in my positive opinions. Although I tend to get excited about everything (did I mention this keyboard I am typing on right now is INCREDIBLE?!), when I mean business, I mean business. And with Super Mario Galaxy 2, I mean business. Serious business.

So, why is Galaxy 2 the best platformer ever created? And what makes a platformer a platformer? Hit the jump for the reasons I think Super Mario Galaxy 2 is pretty much the perfect package. (Also check the end of the post for a bonus list of my top ten favorite platformers of all time!)

The definition of a platformer

What exactly is a platformer? Originating in the ‘80s, the term simply describes videogames involving jumping on, well, platforms (e.g. the original Super Mario Bros., Adventure Island, etc.). The definition may sound overly basic -- and, sure, there are more complex sub-genres such as Mega Man and Castlevania -- but that’s pretty much the best way to describe what a platform game is and should be.

In a way, the aforementioned sub-genres are part of the problem, one of the reasons the definition gets a little muddled. A lot of platformers now are becoming more complicated, with a heavy reliance on weapons and back-tracking. Not to say that is a bad thing, but with more and more games combining multiple genres, one can start to miss the pure, unadulterated fun of just grabbing a controller, running towards a set goal, and jumping over multiple obstacles.

That’s why Mario games are so great. Even after all these years they like to stick to the basics. Mario may find a variety of power-ups during his adventures, but the games he stars in don’t veer too far from what a platformer should be all about: mainly jumping from one platform to another.

Mario is the king of the genre!

The original Super Mario Bros. is arguably the most famous platformer ever made. And although Mario has been featured in many, many different games over the years, his best appearances are still in platformers.

While there have been a couple of missteps along the way (despite how much I enjoy it, Super Mario Sunshine is rather sloppy when compared to typical Mario standards), the traditional Mario platformers have all refreshingly stuck to the basic rules of what makes a true platformer so great.

Because of this, Mario will always be the king of the genre. While other games that started as platformers moved on to different things (Jak & Daxter comes to mind), Mario trusts its core gameplay and remains wonderfully retro.

The rules of platforming

For a platformer to be a real platformer, it needs to avoid certain things and, more importantly, follow a set of rules.

1. Jumping has to be the primary gameplay focus
2. Levels needs to be mostly linear (no backtracking and open-worlds allowed!)
3. Level design is of the utmost importance

Knowing these rules, some games considered by some people to be platformers really aren’t: Cave Story, Super Metroid, Castlevania, even Mega Man. As much as I love these games, they fall more into the sub-genre of platformers, as there are many focuses outside of just jumping through levels. Cave Story and Super Metroid are full of backtracking in an open-world structure and Castlevania relies too much on weapon collection and defeating enemies. Heck, the jumping in the original Castlevania is so frustrating and hard to manage, calling it a platformer is almost a knock to the genre! A platformer with bad jumping is like a cupcake with Vegemite frosting. It doesn't work (and makes me throw up a little just thinking about it).

But why do all these specifics matter? Well, they really don’t -- a good game is a good game regardless -- but it helps to understand what a platformer really is to understand why Super Mario Galaxy 2 is the best the genre has ever seen.

Why Super Mario Galaxy 2 = the ultimate platformer

So let’s apply these rules to Super Mario Galaxy 2!

1. Jumping has to be the primary gameplay focus
Outside of the analog stick on the nunchuck, the “A” button on the Wiimote (a.k.a. the jump button) is easily the most used button in Super Mario Galaxy 2. Why is this? BECAUSE THE GAME IS ALL ABOUT JUMPING, as a platformer should be!

Every single level in Galaxy 2 involves some form of precise jumping from one platform to another. Whether it is a literal floating platform like in the old Mario games, a massive flying spaceship, or an orbiting planet, jumping from one thing to another is the game’s primary action.

2. Levels needs to be mostly linear (no backtracking and open-worlds allowed!)
The best platformers (and maybe all true platformers) separate their games into completely individual levels. Even when platformers moved into the 3D realm and simple left to right movement evolved into a free-roaming paradise -- such as the revolutionary Super Mario 64 or Banjo-Kazooie -- their main levels still remained separate entities (e.g. Tick Tock Clock in Mario 64; Treasure Trove Cove in Banjo).

With Super Mario Galaxy 2, this rule most definitely applies. There may be a few stars you can collect on the same level or instances when replaying the same stage will yield further rewards, but the entire game is separated into dozens and dozens of completely separate, completely varied levels.

3. Level design is of the utmost importance.
Most importantly, what separates a good platformer from a genius one is the level design. And this is where Super Mario Galaxy 2 shines. I would comfortably go so far as saying Super Mario Galaxy 2 has the best, most creative level design in the history of videogames. It really is that good.

Each level in the game is a true master class in design. Just when a sequence would blow my mind with its creativity (Spin-Dig Galaxy), another level would come along and impress even more (Flip-Swap Galaxy) ... and then impress even more (Beat Box Galaxy) ... and even more (Chompworks Galaxy) ... and then even more (Melty Monster Galaxy).

By the time the game was over I was exhausted by how much fun I had. It truly left me wondering how Nintendo is even going to think about topping this game with future titles.

Let’s imagine all of Nintendo’s brilliantly creative ideas are kept in a jar. In my mind, this jar was not only emptied into Super Mario Galaxy 2, the game’s designers actually took their fingers and soaked up every last ounce of creativity along the edges, like hungry people do when trying to get that last bit of peanut butter.

Nintendo always manages to surprise me, so I am sure their next Mario game will be stunning, but, man, it is hard to wrap my head around how Galaxy 2 could ever be topped.


Random editor's note: I LOVE THIS LEVEL!

The great comparison!

To prove my point even more about Super Mario Galaxy 2 being the best platformer ever created, let’s look at a (semi-random) list of other excellent, timeless platformers ... and how Galaxy 2 manages to school them all.

Banjo-Kazooie
The original Banjo-Kazooie is an incredible, expansive platformer with some of the best music on the Nintendo 64.
Why SMG2 is better: As charming as the levels are in Banjo, Galaxy 2 takes things up a hundred notches. And I would never, ever criticize the addictive music of Banjo-Kazooie ... but the gorgeous full orchestrations that score Super Mario Galaxy 2 are beyond incredible.

N+
One of the most challenging and skilled-based platformers ever made, N+ flourishes in its remarkable simplicity and daunting design.
Why SMG2 is better: N+ is definitely more challenging than Super Mario Galaxy 2, but Galaxy 2 rewards its player with more organic level design and a much fairer learning curve. Also, variety!

Drill Dozer
Drill Dozer may have not been played by many people (for shame!), but the Game Boy Advance game is an incredibly solid platformer. It is so old-school that it feels like it could have been released on the Super Nintendo -- which is most definitely a good thing.
Why SMG2 is better: Again, Drill Dozer is great, but Super Mario Galaxy 2 does everything better. EVEN STUFF WITH A DRILL!

All the other Mario games
Super Mario Galaxy 2’s biggest competition, funny enough, comes from all the other platform games in the Mario series. They are all fantastic in their own ways, but ...
Why SMG2 is better: ... Super Mario Galaxy 2 seems to combine the best of each of them. I can’t fault Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, or even the original Super Mario Galaxy on any level -- they are all absolutely perfect games -- but everything they do great Galaxy 2 just does a little better. Every wonderfully creative stage from all of the old Mario games is topped during one of the many varied, instant classic stages in Galaxy 2.

Super Mario Galaxy 2 really is the new standard for what all platformers should be.

The gauntlet is thrown down!

Okay, now it’s your chance to tell me what you think. I welcome the inevitable disagreements about my bold declaration, but, before you hit the comments, think about the giant smile on your face I know you had when playing a large majority of Super Mario Galaxy 2. Think about how many times your jaw dropped at some of the game's staggering level design.

It's pretty hard to argue the game isn't the perfect (and best!) platformer.

Let's discuss! If you do disagree, what other platformer do you think is better and why? What do you think of Super Mario Galaxy 2 in general? Do you think it deserves its current place as the highest rated videogame of all time? And where would you rank it on a list of your favorite platformers?

BRING IT ON!

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BONUS LIST!

For the curious (and as promised before the jump), here is a list of My Top Ten Favorite Platformers of All Time! (Keep in mind I took out all sub-genre titles, including Mega Man 2, amongst others.)

1. Super Mario Galaxy 2
2. Super Mario Galaxy
3. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
4. Super Mario Bros. 3
5. Super Mario World
6. New Super Mario Bros. Wii
7. Banjo Kazooie
8. Super Mario 64
9. Drill Dozer
10. N+

What do you think?








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Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:03
Chris Carter
According to GameRankings, it is now the best rated game of all time.

Since I helped contribute to that fact, it's obvious that I agree! The game somehow is able to throw punches every single level, every star. Unbelievably good write up! Hopefully I'll get another Chad hug at E3!

@Chad
How do you like the new shadow twist on Purple Coin Luigi?
Cainraw's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:05
Cainraw
Best platform EVER??? HAVENT YOU HEARD OF KARNOV?

I rest my case.
Pixel Kaiser's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:05
Pixel Kaiser
Oh Chad, you're such a goober.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:07
PappaDukes
I need this game more now than I need food. This will now sustain my body's craving for food.

Great write-up as usual Chad!
KwikPwn's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:08
KwikPwn
Haven't played it yet, but Miyamoto's the freakin' man!
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:11
eternalplayer2345
This game is pure in every way, I love it almost as I love chad :O
SilentSomnus's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:13
SilentSomnus
the first game was good and very fun. i still have to get this game and from what i see it will be one of the very best wii games that i will play. cant wait to get it :O
Pudge Controls the Weather's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:14
Pudge Controls the Weather
I haven't got it yet (June 11th can't come fast enough!) but I'm sure it'll beat the original Galaxy which is my second favourite platformer of all time.

My number 1 is actually Spyro 3. IT'S SO AWESOME :'D
GodofWar86's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:15
GodofWar86
I think Super Mario World 2 gets overlooked because its older it was a hugely popular game back in those days. Thats not to take anything away from SMG2.

Actually something I've noticed about SMG2 is that it has hit a chord with old school gamers. Gamers that have been around in the industry for 20 odd years have seen it all and are hard to please but most of the old timers I know love Super Mario Galaxy 2.. On that note alone I'm starting to think this game really is something special.
True Axiom's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:15
True Axiom
Best 3-D Platformer of all time? Almost assuredly. I can't think of any game that remotely compares, besides Super Mario 64 and Banjo Kazooie. And while it's pretty close, Galaxy 2 probably takes it.

Best *platformer* of all time? That is a harder prize, and I have to say no. If only because I'm not tired of Mario 3 and Super Mario World after all these years, and I doubt I ever will be.

It says something, though, that no non-mario game is considered.
sohei's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:15
sohei
Your definition of a "platformer" appears to exclude platformers that are actually fun, such as the Ratchet & Clank series.
odber's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:17
odber
You need to make a review video for video.destructoid. I miss your voice chad
SteezyXL's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:17
SteezyXL
Chad, I just want you to know, I LOVE YOU! I love reading everything about Mario you write because it's everything I want to hear and agree with. I think this article just topped your previous one Super Mario Galaxy being your favorite game this gen. =)

However, now that I have confessed my love for you, can I borrow your wii and copy of SMG 2 so that I can experience this for myself? =)
TriplZer0's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:22
TriplZer0
@sohei - Ratchet & Clank focuses a lot on getting/using different weapons though so according to Chad's rules R&C doesn't really fit into the genre.

Great write up. I don't know if I agree that it is the best platformer of all time -- 2 reasons. Number A) I haven't played SMG2 yet so I don't have a super well-informed opinion. Letter 2) I generally get uncomfortable with labels like best something of all time.

But from what I've heard SMG2 definitely is near the top of the list
ender_x's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:22
ender_x
I love the game. still playing it.
I however don't understand ANY of the love for NSMBwii. The DS version was ten times the game, with a shit ton more comment. The multiplayer was just tossed in to a point where playing with more than one other person is actually frustrating, not fun - I can't imagine being in a household wiht two kids and how much they'd fight over one of them sucking. c'mon, the platforms barely had room for two, let alone three/four.

why is there no little big planet love? It's thrice the game NSMW is - the music was better, the graphics were awesome - neither games excel in the length though. both too short if you ask me. but on top of that, you got a wicked, easily understood level creation that has made some of the best platforming experiences out there.
Vargas's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:25
Vargas
Yeah, Chad's right, it is the best platformer ever made.
It's been a while since your last article, eh Chad? You should appear in the front page more often. =D
Kimicario's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:27
Kimicario
Mega Man 2?!
EEEEEEEWWW
I'm more for 4, 9, or even 10. 2 and 3 are really just overrated.
Django Reinhardt's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:28
Django Reinhardt
Genre distinctions are not real.
Unmature's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:30
Unmature
I'm about 35 stars into the game and I have to agree with you, Chad. I think this is finally the game to move Mario 64 aside.

I was also really excited to see a Mario Sunshine level in the game. SOMEONE OTHER THAN ME MUST STILL LIKE IT!
lateralest's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:33
lateralest
Yes it is. No doubt about it. The game is brilliant.
Felipe Choque's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:34
Felipe Choque
My jaw dropped with ALMOST EVERY level, TWICE.
Sentry's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:37
Sentry
I don't think the term "platformer" represents a pure anything, and has only become "distilled" over the years as gameplay mechanics have evolved to a point to recognize that the "platformer" mechanic doesn't necessarily qualify or define a genre.

Arbitrary distinctions aside, I'd disagree with stuff you said here, but I don't really see an argument. Just a lot of love.

(Nothing wrong with love~)
MooImaChicken's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:39
MooImaChicken
@ Unmature I liked Mario Sunshine too, Had a lot of fun with it... I never understood the hate towards it, but I agree Super Mario World, Super Mario bros 3 and Mario 64 are way above it, but that does not mean it was bad, i think the bar was way too high. But then Galaxy Came and blew us away, this game is magnificent. So much in fact, that will be hard to Top it; I have no idea how Nintendo is going to try, the bar is so high that its not even funny.
Neroisonfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:40
Neroisonfire
I DON'T SEE DUCK TALES IN THAT LIST
SBC Slam's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:42
SBC Slam
Tooie is better than Kazooie, but that's my only contention.

Mario knows how to do Jumping right, yo.
Trebz's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:43
Trebz
I want to play this right now.

Chad, you are the world's best at making something look so unbelievably awesome that I want to cry until I have it in my hands.
JQM78's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:45
JQM78
Been playing it all day and a good part of yesterday......loving it....'cept for the "fluzzard" flying part....ended up skipping that level....the flying felt really awkward and unresponsive with the wiimote.....would have been better with the analog stick......am I missing something?
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:46
Electrium
Nintendo really hit it home on this game, more than they ever have.

There are a lot of times in games when I'll start whining because I think a level is unfair, but that's never been an issue in this one. It takes a lot of talent from a design team to make me feel like it's MY fault every time I die (not the game's), and even more talent to make me feel like I can succeed after another try every time.

The controls, as always, are absolutely perfect. Even the camera! Even the brand new Yoshi controls! The new power ups are just brilliant, and don't feel cheap or tacked on in any way. I actually like them so much that I'm more excited to see a new power up than I am to see a fire flower (or even a health-doubling shroom)!

What it all comes down to is that I wouldn't change a thing about SMG2. Not a single level, not a single power up, nothing. I would say I'd add more content, but I've still got a lot of stars to go before I'm even close to being done with it. Thanks Nintendo for making me feel like a kid again =).
Red Priest Rezo's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:47
Red Priest Rezo
Nah. I liked Galaxy-1 much, much more. It was harder it had interesting story and it also had the only enteresting character in Marioverse - Rosalina. And story of Galaxy 2 deleted everything good, that G-1 had. Story of G-2 is pure garbage.

...And also, nothing tops Psychonauts in my book.
Chad Concelmo's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:52
Chad Concelmo
@Red Priest Rezo,
I will give you that the story is better in Galaxy 1, but the level design is Galaxy 2 is so ridiculously impressive -- even better than the stellar original! :)

Also, I don't really consider Psychonauts a true platformer. But, yeah, it is amazing! I agree! :)
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:54
Holyetheline
hell yes! i agree wholeheartedly.
Chad Concelmo's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:54
Chad Concelmo
@Neroisonfire,
Ducktales is incredible. It's my #11!

Forgive me. :)
Chad Concelmo's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:55
Chad Concelmo
@Unmature,
Just wait until you get to the Throwback Galaxy. You are going to lose your mind. :)
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:56
HEL105
If it's better than Super Mario World 1&2, then yep, it basically has to be the best platformer. Damn, all this praise is making me want to abandon the first Galaxy (as fun as it is!) and jump right into this one!

Oh, and has anyone else noticed that the old "Wii has no games" arguement has been M.I.A. for the last few months?
Sonic9jct's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:57
Sonic9jct
@Chad
The last time I played Psychonauts, it was shortly after playing the original Monkey Island. And doing some made me realize something-- Psychonauts is secretly the best adventure game ever made in the guise of a platformer! It has all the elements of classic adventure games, and intersperses it with the gameplay of a solid platformer.
Anjo's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:57
Anjo
Don't you think you should wait a couple of years, you know. To reflect?
VGFreak1225's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:57
VGFreak1225
fanboy.

I kid. I NEED THIS GAME RIGHT NAOW.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:58
Monodi
"Drill Dozer
Drill Dozer may have not been played by many people (for shame!), but the Game Boy Advance game is an incredibly solid platformer. It is so old-school that it feels like it could have been released on the Super Nintendo -- which is most definitely a good thing.
Why SMG2 is better: Again, Drill Dozer is great, but Super Mario Galaxy 2 does everything better. EVEN STUFF WITH A DRILL!"

Oh, shoot!
TheOGB's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 16:58
TheOGB
i see no Crash Bandicoot in your list
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 17:02
ArrestedDeveloper
I don't think you can make such a call so close to a games release. Give it a year and reexamine the game then maybe I'll believe you.
KwikPwn's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 17:03
KwikPwn
I like the list, and I even agree that Banjo-Kazooie is the best non-Miyamoto platformer ever.

That said, I feel Sonic deserves a spot on there somewhere.

Nice read, thanks!
RIMoonlight's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 17:08
RIMoonlight
I LOVE YOU CHAD
I can't disagree with you. Like... at all. The opening paragraphs to the article is possibly the very definition of why you're one of my favourite editors here.
But yeah, I can't really argue with you. I was actually rather skeptical prior to popping the game in, with the much shorter developmental schedule and the fact that, well, SMG1 was so damn fantastic I couldn't really think about how it could be topped. But it has been. I'm... thirty-eight stars in, and this is easily one of my most favourite games of all time. I actually feel sorry for Red Dead Redemption, I haven't touched it since I've loaded up SMG2.
eskimo bob's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 17:08
eskimo bob
ugh, this needs to come out in Europe right now.

semi-related: I can't be the only one who thinks that Banjo-Tooie is better than Kazooie, can I?
Artemus's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 17:08
Artemus
I'm psychic! I knew this article was coming!
Only, did you have to mention Adventure Island? You could have mentioned Wonder Boy instead. =P Or Bubsy. ;)
I'm not going to elaborate, Super Mario Galaxy 2 will stand tall as one of the greatest platformers ever created. Anyone who disagrees really shouldn't be playing video games. The fun this game gives me is immeasurable.
Thank you, Chad, for the awesome article.
Also, thank you Nintendo! =)
flea friend's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 17:10
flea friend
The immense amount of qualifying that went into making SMG2 number one was just ridiculous.

Still, I believe this article puts you on the short list for Best Hyperbole Ever.
CrazyBlue's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 17:15
CrazyBlue
I look forward to playing it when I go back home after all my exams are over!
TheOldHouse's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 17:15
TheOldHouse
It lacks the exploration I loved in 64 and Sunshine.

But it is still pretty great just not the best.
Mr Sinister's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 17:16
Mr Sinister
Yay for Mario Galaxy 2 and for top 10 lists. Yay!!!
TriforcePlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 17:16
TriforcePlayer
HELL YES
Morty's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/27/2010 17:17
Morty
Banjo-Kazooie is way too low and what about Banjo-Tooie? And Crash BAndicoot? And Ratchet and Clank? And the good old Spyro-Games? I find that list pretty one dimensional.

But I am really intrigued about Galaxy 2. Guess I have to amplify my persuasion strategy for my friend with a Wii. *harrharrharr*
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