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Is Mario ready for adulthood? Suda 51 thinks so photo

Some might say that underneath the wholesome facade, Mario has already been there and done that (eating magic mushrooms for power, anyone?) since his humble beginnings, but that hasn't stopped Suda 51 from musing about giving the plumber an update of his own. During an interview with Nintendo Official Magazine UK, he expressed interest in making a Mario game for adults:

"Maybe Mario could wear an Italian suit and have a machine gun," he hypothesized, adding, "But Nintendo probably wouldn't like that idea."  

I can only imagine the horrified look on Miyamoto and the rest of Nintendo, if they ever got wind of that jaw-dropper; it would have to be priceless. While I think Suda 51 is fantastic, and his work nothing short of genius, I cringe at the thought of something like this.

Mario is an iconic character who just wasn't cut out for the gangster life, and I'd wager that somewhere in the mind of Suda resides the creativity for a new IP that would convey his ideas much better -- while not tinkering with what's not broken: Nintendo's mascot. Not that it would ever have any hope of getting made in the first place, but could you honestly say that you are ready for this?

[Via CVG -- Thanks, Adam!]








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Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 13:52
Holyetheline
I would refuse to play a Mario game if it followed this path of "adulthood"... that's just not Mario's style.
Bas's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 13:53
Bas
Idea = Awww yeah
Bulrog's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 13:55
Bulrog
Only time I've seen Mario in a gun was in that Japanese Mario cartoon. I forget the name of it, but it was hilarious when a couple of hammer bros were like here take this gun lol.
13thDragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 13:56
13thDragon
What the hell kinda name is Suda 51 anyway?
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 13:56
MechaMonkey
Mario's as surprised as anyone:

Geoff Henao's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 13:56
Geoff Henao
As a life-long Sonic fan, I can speak with experience that attempting to change a mascot's attitude/personality/etc. typically ends in failure.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 13:58
Y0j1mb0
Suda 51 are smoking a BIG bowl of STUPID if they think Nintendo will give them Mario for an update.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:01
Justice
Foolish fool is foolishly foolish enough to foolishly think that this foolish plan would work.
Remo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:02
Remo
How about this:
Mario's a Italian maverick drug junkie cop out to rescue a helpless prostitute (peach) from a demonic pimp lord (bowser).
I think it could work.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:02
Gameboi
Listen to Video Cognito, for there is wisdom in this statement:

"Attempting to change a mascot's attitude/personality/etc. typically ends in failure."
Red TheHaze Veron's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:04
Red TheHaze Veron
lolstereotypeslol
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:06
F Whipple
as long as the tanooki suit would be implemented I'd play it
Mr Bas's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:08
Mr Bas
@13thDragon

His Name is Goichi Suda, in Japanese: Go = 5, Ichi = 1, hence the name Suda 51, kinda cool I think.
moonkid's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:15
moonkid
It sounds like a lame idea until you realise it couldn't turn out any worse than Sopranos: Road to Respect did.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:19
Tubatic
Nice idea, if we don't take it literally.

But a fairly loveable character with classic and revered gameplay mechanics, mashed up with tragically "adult" (read M rated) themes. An awkward fallen hero sort of story, right?

I know I'm reading more into it that what he actually is quoted saying, but considering the way he played with game themes and archetypes in NMH, I think the frame work of his concept could make for a decent game, at least enough for a few good lolz.
flaming burrito's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:19
flaming burrito
uh, no i'd cry
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:22
Tubatic
heh or at least no worse than Conker. zing.
Tino's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:23
Tino
Stop taking this so seriously.
NUMBER-EIGHTY's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:24
NUMBER-EIGHTY
Maybe first he should make a self-referential game that panders to nerds- Japanese nerds who are enamored with awkward occidentalisms and engrish, and American nerds who call themselves "Otaku" or whatever. The game could be awkward and have dreamcast era graphics. Maybe he could slap on some 8-bit graphics in the menus so that game reviewers who take themselves too seriously can talk about post modernism and hype it up as a new step of "cool", and then beat themselves off all over videogame blogs, hyping No More Heroes as the next "Killer app" or "Make or break game for the wii", when it is indeed more like "Dynasty warriors level repetitive action with GTA style bike sequences minus the interactivity."
Wait, he already did that.
But check it out y'all! If this genius of videogames were to make a Mario game, he would give Mario a gun!
How Irreverent!
How Novel!
That is newsworthy.
Seriously. What the fuck is all the hype over No More Heroes? Is it because it is the few non-family oriented game for the wii or something, and fanboys have to cling to it?
I don't get it.
But yeah. Give Mario a gun. Awesome! How does he come up with this?
(Other Iconic characters to be given guns and therefore become totally uninteresting:
Sonic
The Incredible Hulk (honestly)
Ted Nugent
Jesus Christ
Calvin
Etc.)
tsunamikitsune's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:27
tsunamikitsune
It would be like Bomberman: Act Zero all over again. XD
spacecadetjoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:30
spacecadetjoe
hoho...that suda 51
PrinceofCannedPeaches's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:36
PrinceofCannedPeaches
Mario Payne?
grrza's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:36
grrza
I'd play it.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:41
Tubatic
@Eighty, Just curious: Did you play No More Heroes?

Not setting you up for a snarky comeback, just wondering.

You know, just turn around. For just a second . . .
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:42
Excel-2011
He clearly has never played Shadow the Hedgehog.
SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:44
SourGr8pes
How about Mario doing some actual goddamned plumbing!

No wonder he spends so much time in the Mushroom Kingdom. He's got no money, and no job leads.
Marioland's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:48
Marioland
@ Video_Cognito: Yes i agree.. i remember the awful Shadow the Hedgehog.. Sonic with guns was ..bleh

Would you like a Happy go lucky cute Master Chief? No. Then leave Mario as is.
Comrade Snarky's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:48
Comrade Snarky
Cut Suda some slack. I mean, it totally worked for Sega:

Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:49
Excel-2011
@SourGr8pes:
Mario's Pipe Dream?
liquidninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:50
liquidninja
@grrza
I love the dark mario picture.

Making him into a italian mobster stereotype like those God Father games doesn't sound too great to me.

But I do think mario could look more griddy like a real italian plumber.
I also love the Peoples Mario video:
http://www.88by31.com/flashman/thepeoplesmario.swf

Something like that would be cool.
BlackSheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:51
BlackSheep
Idk i'd like to bash ppl's heads in with some plumber equipment.

Jumping on enemies gets boring after a while.
grrza's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:52
grrza
@ liquidninja: yes! A people's mario game would be amazing!
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:53
michiyoyoshiku
How about Mario Rehab?
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:53
GuitarAtomik
I want Suda to have my man-babies.
Murder64's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 14:56
Murder64
I just want co-op Mario Bros. with classic levels and gameplay.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 15:02
BluDesign
Maybe he could put Mario in the sequel to God Hand.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 15:05
AgentMOO
@the excel
my thoughts exactly
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 15:05
Corak
I would like to believe that idea could work but I just don't see it being feasible. I think drastically changing a time tested character like that would be a massive failure. Changing him would have to be done very carefully and in a way it wouldn't alienate a lot of Mario's fanbase. Maybe an entirely new character with what Suda was looking for but I can't see changing Mario in that way.
jackdoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 15:06
jackdoe
Just like a lot of people said, they tried it with Shadow. Look what happened to that game.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 15:17
covah
I remember probably about a year ago on the gamespot forums I said something like "Would it be awesome if there was a mario fps?" and people trashed that idea like a used condom. but now when Suda 51 says it its sooooooooooo different and genius

psh.

but really, that'd be awesome
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 15:19
galagabug
i'd love to see a mario/suda mashup, but i'd expect a lot more creativity out of suda than that.

maybe if we were able to explore mario's physche, only to discover that he actually had 7 distinct personalities.
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 15:34
HarassmentPanda
When I think of Mario with a gun it just reminds me of the Robot Chicken episode that Nyteshade posted a screen from... and then I laugh. Oh, Suda.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 15:40
mistic
whoa I'd love to play a SUDA51-mario-game! it would be EPIC :-)
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 16:07
Cheeburga
A mario skin for DMC4.
Flaming uppercuts with coins shooting out everywhere.
MissHinasaki's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 16:16
MissHinasaki
Why does everyone get so defensive and take him so seriously? I love Suda and his craziness, but I highly doubt that he would be a big enough idiot to do that. He just likes to make shit out of Nintendo.
none's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 16:16
none
While the big N would never let him do it, I think it'd be awesome to see what Suda would turn out. And let's be honest, given the rest of his work, the end result would be completely different than the original, and in no way comparable to the Sonic/Shadow crapfest. I would love to see an edgy reimagining of the Mario universe.

Too bad it's all a pipe dream.
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 16:26
Eschatos
I would be overjoyed if they decided to reinvent Mario.
DanielMachine's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 16:33
DanielMachine
Nintendo and Grasshopper need to make this shit.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2008 16:36
Samit Sarkar
Mario with a machine gun? Blasphemy! Also, as everyone else has mentioned, Sega failed miserably when they tried this with Shadow the Hedgehog. I like Mario as he is...timeless.
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