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Quantic Dream's David Cage recently revealed that plans for previously announced downloadable content for Heavy Rain had been put on hold. The reason? It seems Sony was more interested in the developer working to create a patch that would allow the title to be playable with its upcoming Move motion controller.

I've already played Heavy Rain with a DualShock 3 controller, the gameplay a series of on-screen button prompts that did their best to mimic in-game actions. Swing the analog stick down and around in a half circle to pick up a cup, for instance, or sit down by using an opposing but similar motion. The results were mixed, the game's narrative arguably more engaging than the actual gameplay.

Originally designed with a motion controller in mind, does Heavy Rain benefit from the use of Sony's Move? The question, for me, was answered when I had a chance to go hands on with a recent demo of Heavy Rain using move.

Heavy Rain with Move can be played with with two configurations -- a Move "wand" in one hand and a navigation controller in the other, or holding the DualShock 3 (a bit awkwardly) in one hand and the Move controller in the other. I chose the former, although I was given the option to do either, to get the "true" Move experience.

I had the opportunity to play two of the game's earliest scenes, both being the first time we meet two of the game's main characters, detective Scott Shelby and reporter Madison Paige.

The Shelby scene should be familiar to anyone who's played the game. The private eye is investigating the Origami Killer case, which leads him to a shady motel where he questions one of the victim's parents, a call girl named Lauren Winter. This particular scene, like most in Heavy Rain, can be broken down into a list of interactive actions. In this case, a few examples would be using an inhaler, knocking on a door, reaching out to keep a door from being slammed in your face, and a slew of offensive and defensive moves in a brawl.

Playing Heavy Rain with Move is not entirely unlike playing it with a standard control, with context sensitive action prompts appearing on the screen. In the case of using Move, you press down the Move button with your thumb, and then perform an approximation of the action you see on the screen. What I saw wasn't really that different than those that appeared in non-Move game -- move your arm left, move your arm up and left, etc. A few were multiple move actions, with the first prompt asking you to raise the remote and then, once it was registered, swing back down, left, right, etc. There were plenty of "shaking" actions, as well -- to use Shelby's inhaler, for instance, you'd lift the Move control and then "shake" as if you were using the medicine in real life.



So is this any more effective or engaging than using a standard controller? I didn't think it would be, but I must admit that my answer, based on the 10 or 15 minutes of game I played, is "yes." The actions aren't one-to-one -- the game still waits for the input before reacting -- but the actions certainly make you feel more involved than simply pressing buttons on a control pad. This was particularly noticeable in some of the high intensity scenes, like when Shelby fights the biker or Madison fights off attackers in a dream sequence.  The on-screen actions are already getting your heart racing, and it's likely that (depending on how "into it" you get) the Move actions will help get it moving a bit faster.

The takeaway? I wish I had played Heavy Rain with Move the first time around. Because while the experience was more absorbing, I'm not sure it's enough to get me to play through the game's story (or stories, as the case may be) again. From what I'm told, Quantic Dream isn't adding any additional content beyond Move support. But if you haven't played Heavy Rain yet, I urge you to hold off a bit -- the game will receive the update for Move support when the controller ships this fall.

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Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:23
Corduroy Turtle
Still kind of sucks for those looking for more insight on the story.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:24
Rammstein
'Move the want to Jason' just doesn't have the same ring/effect to it.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:24
mrplow8
Of course it's better. When you play through the game with Move, it suddenly makes perfect sense for Scott Shelby to be the killer.
MidnightOwl's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:26
MidnightOwl
Every time I throw Nathan's hot dogs on the grill I yell, "Nayth-AANS!! Nayth-AANS!" in just the right voice.
trueb7ue's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:27
trueb7ue
Unless with the Move you can slap/pull on/stretch/warp or pick the noses of the characters' dopey faces in those loading screens, no.
LogicallyDashing's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:27
LogicallyDashing
Really? I'm planning to get a PS3 along with Heavy Rain some time this fall. Not sure if I want to plunk down the money for a Move controller as well just so I can shake the controller like I'm actually taking pills. We'll see when the time comes...
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:33
amtalx
It certainly couldn't be any worse... I love Quantic Dream, so it stung particularly bad when Heavy Rain turned out to be such a disappointment.
Kevin Lau's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:37
Kevin Lau
Can the Move change the ending of a great game with a disappointing ending?
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:40
Sexualchocolate
Dude, SPOILERS.

There's one big one which will completely ruin a section of game for people who haven't played it. although, it may have been shown in a video or something. Meh.

Anyways, i love HR, played through once and traded it in, but i'm just like that with SP games, doesn't mean i didn't thoroughly enjoy it, but i won't play it again with Move. I'll get Move, no doubt, but I kinda wish i hadn't already played HR with the dualshock.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:43
Corduroy Turtle
cowsick: You're wrong. Halo Reach is a cinematic gaming masterpiece. Using the 360 controller for it will be quite an experience I predict.
Drack48's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:43
Drack48
Man..just finished this game and while I really appreciate the ambition and work put into it..Jesus, the actual game is kinda a mess. A beautiful mess..but sill. Would I eve play it again?? Hell no!
wittynickname's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:44
wittynickname
Mrplow8? More like Mrdickmove, with your unmarked spoilers.

Try to think of someone other than yourself, please.
The White Light's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:45
The White Light
Yeah, your final sentiment seems to follow exactly how I have felt regarding this. I'm sure it will actually be better playing with the Move, I just doubt it will be enough to make me actually want to play through the game again.
coldalarm's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:47
coldalarm
@Corduroy Turtle; Well played.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:50
Corduroy Turtle
cowsick: Just one man's opinion here, but I'd rather play Limbo than Heavy Rain.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 10:55
EternalDeathSlayer
I am definitely not playing through this game a second time just to use motion controls. I'm actually not even sure I'm going to bother getting Move to begin with at this point; There's just nothing appealing so far.

Same goes for Kinect, although if I were to buy one it would be Move. I'm not jumping around my living room and breaking shit.
Discarded Couch Sandwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:00
Discarded Couch Sandwich
I'm glad its a patch and not another release (when the first trailer said Heavy Rain: Move Edition I was expecting another disc) but its a shame that the one game with any depth that I've seen for Move (apart from Sorcery) has to be the kind of game that I wouldn't want to play again - at least not any time soon.
Nintendo Tim's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:00
Nintendo Tim
"Quantic Dream isn't adding any additional content beyond Move support"

So...does this confirm everyone's darkest nightmare, that the Chronicles DLC is officially killed?

I know they postponed the DLC after Taxidermist for Move support, but seeing initial reactions and previews from everyone (that Move support for it really isn't all that hot), I'm getting worried that some really good DLC just got canned for almost nothing.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:01
EternalDeathSlayer
@ cowsick: It has a pretty good story if you like glaring plot holes and horrifying voice acting.

But it was interesting, which was why I bought it and finished it. I don't find many games these days that are "interesting" whether it's a new gameplay mechanic or a whole new genre, so I give it credit for being different. I enjoyed my time with it, my dumb wife enjoyed it even more, and that was that. We both enjoyed God of War 3 far more a month later.

And then my PS3 got turned off after my GoW3 platinum medal and literally has not been turned on since.
ZeeJayTL's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:04
ZeeJayTL
@tim: I think they said that therell be no more DLC a while back.

This game, like Indigo started off amazing, but fell apart a little past midway
Geoff Henao's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:05
Geoff Henao
I was on the fence after playing the original Heavy Rain demo, but if there's a price drop when Move comes out, I might just get it all together.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:13
Wedge
Lol fanboy fight. What really needs to happen is Deadly Premonition needs to get the PS3 version released here with move support, so I can more realistically STUFF MY FACE and divine my coffee. It would be fantastic if I could control the pace of York tapping his chest with it as well. And also because it's a better game on all accounts than Heavy Rain.
tylerstravis's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:15
tylerstravis
Maybe I am now grateful for not playing yet... I waited forever for it to come out and just haven't gotten around to it yet.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:25
Corduroy Turtle
cowsick: Do you have a 360? It seems you have big opinions on a lot of 360 exclusives.
TheOldHouse's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:26
TheOldHouse
no deadly premonition has dreadful gameplay and is only enjoyable because it makes no fucking sense.
Xanthene's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:27
Xanthene
When Halo Rain comes out for xbox it's gonna be the best game ever and sell a bagillion copies. Heavy Rain (Fail) will eat its space dust, suck it sony. Also, Halo Turismo (aks forza 4) will make Gran Turismo 5 (Epic Fail) look like RC Pro Am. Microsoft is smart, they're going to start calling all their games Halo so us loyal Halo lovers to buy all their awesome games. FTW LOLZ ZZZ BONK.
shindubhe's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:29
shindubhe
im not really sold on playing it with move i got absorbed just fine with the ds3.
Shodan's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:38
Shodan
The ability to re-play this game by waving my arms around moronically is totally worth the discontinuation of DLC! Oh wait.
garethxxgod's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:39
garethxxgod
@ Corduroy

Your missing out. Even with some of it's sillier elements I still recommend Heavy Rain for anyone who enjoys a game that really engages and involves the player.
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:42
amtalx
Few games approach "masterpiece" at all, and Heavy Rain is certainly not one of them. The bugs, horrendous voice acting, and clunky controls were too much. The story was serviceable at best. You can't keep a tight narrative when there are so many branches. It makes for a more dynamic game, but the quality of the story suffers.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:45
Corduroy Turtle
cowsick: I'm happy for you. Perhaps if you were a bit less defensive, your PS3/360 arguments would look less like fanboy rage.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 11:49
pokota
Heavy Rain isn't very good, in my opinion, but Deadly Premonition is a horrible, broken game. However, the way Destructoid treats the two titles is very interesting. Had Deadly Premonition been hyped and Heavy Rain been a budget title, would they have gotten very different scores? I think so, which unfortunately throws the idea of objective reviews out the window. Budget and pre-release hype seem to be bigger factors than anything else when it comes to Jim Sterling reviews, I've noticed. The entire Deadly Premonition getting a perfect score situation has made Destructoid the object of many jokes, and much derision, whether they know it or not. It's kind of a shame.
Videodrone31's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 12:09
Videodrone31
@cowsick

Alan wake was better than heavy rain, but I enjoyed heavy rain for what it was.
Sæglópur's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 12:18
Sæglópur
@cowsick

You like attention, don't you.

Heavy Rain is good, but I refuse to call you a gamer, especially one that likes atmosphere, story character, when you're bashing any game that has such things and aren't on PS3.

Don't be an asshat.
Themightylebeau2009's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 12:20
Themightylebeau2009
@ Videodrone31 - Ooooh, speaking of Alan Wake, The Signal is out tomorro :-)

If they announce the DLC is still coming to Heavy Rain I might get it, hoever, it wont be for the Move use.
Arch649's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 13:02
Arch649
Heavy Rain had some cool moments in it. But the terrible voice acting and glaring plot holes make it a tough sell.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 13:57
KingSigy
I still don't think I would have enjoyed the game if I felt more involved. That stupid plot twist ruins everything.
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:11
Hasney
While I was never a fan of Heavy Rain, or even close, I don't understand what benefit adding motion control would do, even after a description of how it works. The game is essentially an interactive movie anyway.

Then again, I hope the move/kinect would die and Nintendo would release a non-motion system.

There I go, dreaming again...
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:40
brainderailment
I played heavy rain, but I dont own it. I plan on buying it. I may use it as an excuse to get a Move.
SKSith's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 17:35
SKSith
I decided awhile ago to hold of going for the platnium untill Move was out
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 18:39
Mr Andy Dixon
Thanks to mrplow8, I now have ZERO interest in this game (down from MEDIUM interest).

Dick.
darknil's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 19:25
darknil
I probably get Move, RE5 and a used copy of Heavy Rain.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 19:54
Darren Nakamura
I know when I use my inhaler, I bring it up to my face and then furiously wiggle it around.
RWarrior1CO's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 23:58
RWarrior1CO
The problem with Heavy Rain is that no matter how many doodads they throw on to it, the storyline is the sort of mess even Michael Bay wouldn't touch. Would I play it again just because it had Move? Eh... I dunno. I'm not sure I could handle going through all the plotholes again, like especially when

SPOILERS

a goddamn FBI agent releases the prime suspect in a serial murder case based on a goddamn hunch, endangering said suspect and, potentially, the rest of the goddamn city

SPOILERS

Oh, and speaking of spoilers, for the sake that want to play this game in spite of the dire warnings of people like myself, I don't suppose it would be too much to ask if people who posted blatant spoilers without warning got banned? Or at least a strong warning?
Stinky's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/27/2010 04:16
Stinky
You can pleasure yourself with it while looking at the bewbs. :3
ima420r's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/27/2010 21:03
ima420r
I bought heavy rain, played for about 45 minutes then stopped when I heard of motion control support. I am waitng to play again until I get a wiimote... I mean a ps move controller.
mamali's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2010 03:55
mamali
exeuse me do you have sex game
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