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The good news: It may be superior to the Wii's motion control.
The bad news: It looks like a detachable sex toy.
The bad news: It looks like a detachable sex toy.
I feel bad if 360 and ps3 gets some wii ports of the shovelware we have and I don't think that a ton of developers would want to shift from the established 360 controller for my perspestive the ps3 is the only console that this could be looked at seriously.
woohoo! i didn't really notice the lag, but i'm sure it'll get better with time. lego star wars 2 was not designed for this controller, it probably predates the release of the sdk. but whats cool is that it splits in two pieces. modern controllers have 2 analogue sticks. this thing could be backward compatible to an extent with the full ps3/360 library right out the gate.
Um, wow? But I am still confused. There was quite a bit of lag between the dude swinging the remote, and the lego obi wan swinging his lightsaber. Could it be that 2 dudes were off camera playing the game with dual-shock controllers? Am I to believe what I see in the video!? God, I hope so.
I would buy this, but the main problem is, that this isn't built in and thus games supporting it will only be a small community.
Also having 5 different control schemes for Wii games is actually really disturbing.
Also having 5 different control schemes for Wii games is actually really disturbing.
It's still a glorified button, only it's an accelerometer. At least they could improve on the tech a bit, but you never know - a No More Heroes kind of game on the 360 would be acceptable :P
It could be fun, but I think it's definitely too late to make any sort of impact on the scale that the Wii has.
I doubt this will really take off, even if the technology is better than the Wiimote. The problem is that it's an extra device, which means it's an additional purchase that not all gamers will have. The 360 hard drive is in a similar situation.
All this needs is ONE good game, like Halo 4 or something to work perfectly with the motion controls... then it will be on par with Wii... which has proven people are happy with their ONE good motion control game. [wii sportz]
I agree with XBudz, but to elaborate, of why motion controls sort of works on the Wii is because it's the standard. When you buy the system it comes with the motion sensing controller. This is not part of the standard package of the 360 or PS3. It will make developers hesitant to put effort in lots of titles when it's not standard?
But on the other hand if it works well with a couple of games, it has potential to work, but I'm not holding my breath.
But on the other hand if it works well with a couple of games, it has potential to work, but I'm not holding my breath.
Darwin will never be able to overcome the main advantage the Wii controller has: It's not bundled with the system.
i despise the idea of motion sensor gaming on the 360. If i want to play shitty games and look like a retard while playing, i'll buy a wii.
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If they make that ONE good game which uses this controller effectively, at BEST it might prevent a non-Wii gamer from buying the Wii... such as myself.
I only have a *mild* interest in motion controls, so give me that one game on 360 that makes excellent [fun] use of this controller- and my motion control itch will have been scratched.
If that's what the goal is with the Darwin/Newton- then they'll succeed. However, this could never hurt the Wii unless they've got some sorta deal with Microsoft to include this controller with the all new 360 consoles.. which they will NOT do.
I fully expect the next Xbox to have motion controls, so this could be seen as a trial-run, or a way to get used to creating motion control games [and getting user feedback] before the NEXT gen of consoles rolls around.
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If they make that ONE good game which uses this controller effectively, at BEST it might prevent a non-Wii gamer from buying the Wii... such as myself.
I only have a *mild* interest in motion controls, so give me that one game on 360 that makes excellent [fun] use of this controller- and my motion control itch will have been scratched.
If that's what the goal is with the Darwin/Newton- then they'll succeed. However, this could never hurt the Wii unless they've got some sorta deal with Microsoft to include this controller with the all new 360 consoles.. which they will NOT do.
I fully expect the next Xbox to have motion controls, so this could be seen as a trial-run, or a way to get used to creating motion control games [and getting user feedback] before the NEXT gen of consoles rolls around.
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Last time I checked, third-party peripherals weren't half as groundbreaking as this one seems to consider itself. Besides, the whole PS360-compatible just screams "not going anywhere, but we COULD. I swear we COULD." This whole "jump on the waggle-wagon(see what I did there?" seems to be getting dangerous. Everyone wants a share of Nintendo's profits over "Hey kid, I just wanna have fun"-parents. It actually makes me believe that the whole point of the next-generation is going to be a derailed waggle-o-rama. I have a Wii, I waggle regularly, but hey, it's an increment, not the whole point. It adds to the immersion, but while MS and Sony are trying to make a waggly add-on that doesn't look that much of a rip-off, they could be thinking of something that would make the industry actually GROW, instead of level itself. It's just stupid that so much money flows around the R&E groups in order to make a console not fry and yet no real gameplay improvements were made by those two companies. Nintendo pushed it forward, and look how that worked. I don't want no freaking Eye-Toy to play 3 games with it. I want new ways to experience my games. For cereal.
It will never shift power. The consoles don't target the old and females as much as the Wii does so even before the first hurdle it has a problem.
The Wiimote makes a great pointing device and this probably will too, but the waggle controls look like a chip off of Twilight Princess' block, more wild wrist flicking with the actual in game moves determined by how you're holding the analog stick. Which totally defeats the purpose of having motion controls. What's more precise, pushing a button or swinging your arm? Also: Lag.
the ps3 ones look better i sadly have to admit. but this is obviously a sly joint ploy from both sony and microsoft with a grin from 3rd party companies such as ubisoft and capcom to gain some extra coin for themselves by porting exsisting and any future 3rd party titles to xbox 360 and ps3.
If these are legit and nintendo doesn't unleash its corprate banhammer on them then this really does hurt nintendo alot. cause 360 and ps3 will be like yeah well we have them now, but if these come out it really will bring nintendo back into the console war under a big microscope it doesnt want to be under cause once you get beyond hardware sales they don't got much.
I see the positive in the long run and the short term negatives, i'm just hoping this can bring some competitiveness out of nintendo cause they have just been sitting on thier hands over here in europe.
If these are legit and nintendo doesn't unleash its corprate banhammer on them then this really does hurt nintendo alot. cause 360 and ps3 will be like yeah well we have them now, but if these come out it really will bring nintendo back into the console war under a big microscope it doesnt want to be under cause once you get beyond hardware sales they don't got much.
I see the positive in the long run and the short term negatives, i'm just hoping this can bring some competitiveness out of nintendo cause they have just been sitting on thier hands over here in europe.
It looks bad, but I'm still hoping for a proper lightsaber game. Maybe if this thing uses bluetooth and works on the PC, people will homebrew some Jedi Knight 2 version to work with it.
Now I don't know if Microsoft has anything to actually do with this. But we know there has been speculation and they even hinted around to motion controls in the past. But what if MS does have something planned and this is not it but just Motus's way to give their controller some time in the spot lite before E3. I would think MS would have made them keep quiet if they were developing it specifically for them. I fear this will just be a motion controller with tacked on controls like the Power Glove, Uforce, and Sega Activator that will no were near live up to the potential a controller that has the games made specifically for it can.
I personally suspect the lag we are seeing on these games control is due to them not being made for motion controls. And simply demos made with software and hardware that translate a gesture to a button press as a "middle man" to the console(Maybe a PC and hacked 360 controller). And I hope this is not they means they intend for it to work in the long run for players games need to be made for this to work the best in my opinion. But if they did get EA and Lucas Arts to help them then this may have promise. I still suspect they are riding the hype train.
unfortunately for them, much like in2games with the fusion, they are way, way too late to market. on top of that, they are not a console manufacturer, and that's going to make it tough for this to fly. MS and Sony are going to release their own wiimote like devices. why would they possibly need these guys? thats the whole problem. they don't. the wii is a cultural phenomenon, and its all because of the innovative wiimote. it is now an industry standard, much like how analog sticks have become a standard for game controls a couple of generations ago.
I still prefer the standard controllers to wii-like controllers. Third party ad-ons haven't been known to be console changing devices. I don't think this is going to be any different.
Oh come on,
I just bought a Wii,
Now it's going to become redundant, booooo.
Ah well at least i already have a 360.
I just bought a Wii,
Now it's going to become redundant, booooo.
Ah well at least i already have a 360.
"Wii... which has proven people are happy with their ONE good motion control game. [wii sportz]"
There are actually a number of Wii games with great motion controls, but the fact that only a handful of developers (including Nintendo itself) have truly grasped the concept does not bode well for this new device.
This sort of thing was inevitable, I think, considering the Wii's success, but I can't see it succeeding. Wii (and Wii Sports) are such a hit partially because it includes the controller, console, and a nontraditional gamer-friendly game -- all in a (relatively) cheap package with the Nintendo brand on it.
I just can't imagine this thing getting the support it would need from developers either (or from Microsoft and Sony for that matter). Wii owners are still waiting for the first set of projects from many developers who failed to predict the console's success and have only since shifted their resources towards Wii development. That kind of skepticism could kill this device in its infancy, as it does not have Nintendo-developed games to carry it.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong. In my mind, anything that challenges Nintendo to innovate is a good thing, so more power to them. Then again, how many 360 owners (of which I am one) would actually buy something like this? Considering the derision the Wii typically earns from "teh hardcorez," I'd be surprised if this thing didn't fail spectacularly -- unless of course there's been a lot of posturing going on.
There are actually a number of Wii games with great motion controls, but the fact that only a handful of developers (including Nintendo itself) have truly grasped the concept does not bode well for this new device.
This sort of thing was inevitable, I think, considering the Wii's success, but I can't see it succeeding. Wii (and Wii Sports) are such a hit partially because it includes the controller, console, and a nontraditional gamer-friendly game -- all in a (relatively) cheap package with the Nintendo brand on it.
I just can't imagine this thing getting the support it would need from developers either (or from Microsoft and Sony for that matter). Wii owners are still waiting for the first set of projects from many developers who failed to predict the console's success and have only since shifted their resources towards Wii development. That kind of skepticism could kill this device in its infancy, as it does not have Nintendo-developed games to carry it.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong. In my mind, anything that challenges Nintendo to innovate is a good thing, so more power to them. Then again, how many 360 owners (of which I am one) would actually buy something like this? Considering the derision the Wii typically earns from "teh hardcorez," I'd be surprised if this thing didn't fail spectacularly -- unless of course there's been a lot of posturing going on.
Not something I want. Are there really Xbox owners out there clamouring for Wii-knockoff controllers? The last thing I want to see if a bunch of minigame collections in full-price retail boxes.
I can't see this challenging Nintendo's market position at all, and I haven't seen the Wii controls offer anything more than superficial gimmicks, so I can't see the edge here for the other companies to embarris themselves by ripping it off.
Do not want.
I can't see this challenging Nintendo's market position at all, and I haven't seen the Wii controls offer anything more than superficial gimmicks, so I can't see the edge here for the other companies to embarris themselves by ripping it off.
Do not want.
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