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Insomniac: Final Fantasy XIII 'superior' on PS3 photo

It's not like we could expect a Sony second party like Insomniac to claim that the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XIII is better, but nevertheless, marketing manager James Stevenson made a very bold claim when he simply said, outright, that Final Fantasy XIII is superior on the PS3. He also threw in a disparaging remark about the Wii. 

"PS3 is having a rockin’ 1st q: MAG, Heavy Rain, White Knight Chronicles, and soon MLB10:The Show, GOWIII and the superior version of FFXIII," he Tweets. "... Fair enough, the 360 also got Mass Effect 2, now one of my all-time favorites from this gen. Plenty of good gaming. Except on Wii."

Stevenson never quantified his statement or added why XIII is superior, but we do of course know that the game will be uncompressed on the PS3, as well as included on a single BD as opposed to the three DVDs on the Xbox 360 version. While I think the differences between the two versions will be negligible at best, technically, Stevenson is right. 

However, it doesn't matter which version has the minuscule technical edge. It matters who is going to buy it, and for what system. One cannot also discount the possibility that some gamers will want the title on 360 just for the Achievements as well. So, this begs the question: Does Final Fantasy XIII's PS3 superiority influence your purchasing decision or not?

James Stevenson: Final Fantasy XIII superior on PS3 [Examiner]








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tobalito23's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:33
tobalito23
a long time ago i bought a PS3 only for FFXIII i have no games for it atm nor do i want any but seeing as how its on the 360 im goin for the 360
Badical's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:34
Badical
I've played the past 6 Final Fantasies (if you include X-2) on a Sony console. It's time for a change. And the achievements will be nice.

Disc-swapping? Hell, that's the way a Final Fantasy game SHOULD BE! :)
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:35
PappaDukes
I only own a PS3, so that heavily influences my decision to not purchase the game for the 360.
Tom Davy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:35
Tom Davy
the sad thing is Sony don't know how to advertise, so far there's a FFXIII ad that only mentions 360, 360 exclusive avatar items, an actual FFXIII 360 too.

what has Sony done?

and before I get replies saying "well its better on ps3 than 360 so more will buy it on ps3", then you my friend rate the buying public way too high and think the hardcore gaming community makes an impact.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:36
runtheplacered
"i bought a PS3 only for FFXIII i have no games for it atm nor do i want any

That's so weird to me. Lots of great games on the PS3.. you're definitely missing out.
Captain Quincy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:38
Captain Quincy
Hey, I went to school with that guys younger brother!
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:39
ChaosTeaCup
I think it will most likely be better on PS3, if that's not all but guaranteed anyhow, but it won't stop it from being a game that hold literally zero interest for me (except for the odd childish disparaging remark on the internets for which I appreciate my trollishness), and that has a major influence on my decision to not purchase this game at all.
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:39
Tarvu
Yeah, if I had a PS3 I would certainly have picked up quite a few titles for it. Not having one means that if I were to buy this game it would be for 360, however I will not because I'm just not a fan. If I had both and were a fan I would likely get it on PS3 just because my FF crazy friends would too.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:41
Aurain
Of course it is.
It's the Lead Development platform.
Most games are Xbox lead dev, and are better on 360.

From what I've seen, and ofcourse, it doesn't mean anything until someone gets both versions running side by side, PS3 does look better.
Also rumoured is that the Xbox is upscaled to 720p.

Comparison Screens:
PS3
http://www.mazingerdude.com/FF13_lighting_PS3.jpg]/URL]

360
[URL]http://www.mazingerdude.com/FF13_lighting_360.jpg


Looking forward to it coming out. Been waiting a long time for a new FF.
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:41
timtheterrible
"Plenty of good gaming. Except on Wii."

Yep, pretty much.
Ignominus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:41
Ignominus
YOUR 360 BIAS IS DISGUSTI....oh....well apparently your Sony check finally arrived. I suppose I'll actually read the article now.

Interesting, you didn't even state an opinion or tack on an inflammatory remark. Are you feeling okay Jim?
Mr Pibb's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:41
Mr Pibb
I don't really care about FFXIII right now anyway, most things I've heard about it in the past few months have put me off. I do hope that once it's released we can finally start getting more info in Versus XIII.

@ tobalito: You bought the PS3 a "long time ago", you don't own any games for it and you're buying FFXIII, apparently the one game you bought the PS3 for, on the 360 just because it's on the 360?

I don't know what to ask first: Why you bought a PS3 so long before FFXIII came out, why you even bought a PS3 in the first place or if you're just stupid.
pd771's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:42
pd771
Apparently there's a rumor going around that the 360 version actually runs at 560p, Not verified in any way, but if that's true it'll give ammunition to those who want flame wars.
ZilorZilhaust's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:44
ZilorZilhaust
I own a PS3, but I'm buying FF13 for the 360. I want the achievements and I prefer the controler for prolonged gameplay sessions, and baby, this will be prolonged.
seventhevening's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:44
seventhevening
I'm buying it for PS3 simply because it is the mother platform for the game. I have a 360, but it seems silly to buy that version since it's the port.

But as for the superiority of it, I do think the PS3 version will be better. A few weeks ago SE released doctored PS3 screen shots to make them look like they were on the 360, and after being caught, they finally released screen shots that were actually from the 360 version. When comparing the two side to side it looked like the difference between bayonetta versions, only in reverse: the 360 version looked more washed out, less smooth and with less crisp textures.

But it's good that it's still coming out on the 360, that means people without PS3 will get to play it. And that's the important part. The superiority only matters to fanboys, or for people with both systems.
Chad Almasy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:44
Chad Almasy
Nope. I was already going to get it for the PS3...not because it'd look better, but because Final Fantasy Versus XIII will supposedly be exclusive to the PS3. There's also the PSP Agito game, as well. I'd just like to own it all on one, even if they don't offer any kind of bonus for having both.
tobalito23's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:45
tobalito23
@runtheplacered

well i borrowed MGS4 from my buddy and that was all i really wanted to play on it. Dont get me wrong im not saying that PS3 dosent have any good games on it, its just none of those games get my attention much.. Killzone 2? im a fan of the 360 and i dont even like Halo lol. Mag is just another shooter as well only thing getting my attention is GOW3 and honestly thats a rent cause in the end its just a hack n slash. now just so i dont seem like a crazed fanboy lol i dont jump all over every 360 game like a horny school girl either, Gears 2 was just Gears one with more levels it bored me.. Bioshock 2.. dont even get me started on that shit total failiure compared to the first and the only game that got me goin was Mass Effect 2. Its funny when people say that FFXIII is superior on the PS3 because of the single disk and uncommpressed etc. because in the end, its comin out on the 360 and that right there is an accomplishment on its own.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:46
Volomon
@Aurain Actually most games are PS3 lead, like all Capcom (though still 360 based engine what a screw up) games, almost all third party games are PS3 lead now.

It just can't stream as well as the PS3, so it HAS to be minimize certain things. Namely you have to remove more streaming material like LOD, distance of objects, and other things. It probably suffers a slightly reduced resolution to give it the ram needed to stream what it can as well, with lower AA I'd imagine as well.

The reason you don't notice this on other 3rd party games is because they usually just put the Xbox360 version on the PS3 like you said when it's lead on Xbox360 so the weakness transfer to the PS3, or even worse they don't stream well on the PS3 at all.

Games like GOW3 make use of a dual layer disc at 35gigs with no install, because of the temp cache of data on the HDD instead. The problem with the Xbox360 isn't purely just lower streaming levels but a MS mandate, that forces all games to be able to run without a HDD. This really drops streaming ability for the entire Xbox360 line, it's greatly improved with a HDD but the way it's programed isn't helpful.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:48
The Silent Protagonist
Easy to knock the Wii, but I noticed DS's formidable RPGs line-up for next month go no comment.

Probably because its nothing to sneeze at. DS gets three content rich and lengthier RPGs next month in SMT: Strange Journey, Infinite Space and Pokemon HG/SS. Oh, they might not be as pretty, but FFXIII has already paid the price for its beauty and uncompressed data - trimmed out content.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:50
Mr Andy Dixon
"Does Final Fantasy XIII's PS3 superiority influence your purchasing decision or not?"

Nope. I don't care if it was developed for the Holodeck*, I'm still not interested in the game.

*Really, though, just imagine how fun turn-based battles in virtual reality would be!
FastHandzS's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:51
FastHandzS
wonder if jim has seen the screenshots comparison. It was kind of funny jim sounds like a kid. ''ya well you might have a better ff13 BUT WE HAVE MASSEFFECT MY FAV DURp Durp''
buri3's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:53
buri3
Jim, you seem to be ridiculously slow on the uptake on FFXIII.

Posting from Kotaku http://kotaku.com/5475017/these-are-the-xbox-360-final-fantasy-xiii-shots-you-were-looking-for

And yes, there is definitely a difference, PS3 screens next.
http://kotaku.com/5470957/new-final-fantasy-xiii-screens-let-you-compare-xbox-360-ps3
^^^ these were from the photoshopped 360 screens issue.

360 version looks upscaled from a lower resolution, lacks any competent AA and from what i've read following these screens, have missing textures/details
Dr Awesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:54
Dr Awesome
Lol wiifags. Enjoy your fun niche games. I'll be over here playing the latest sequel to a popular FPS\RPG.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:55
Occams electric toothbrush
I might just get it for the 360 just for the shits and giggles of playing Final Fantasy on the 360.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:55
Aurain
I only posted those Screenshots because that's the best the FF13 community has to go on.
You shouldn't take those screenshots as proof that PS3 has better AA or anything of the sort.

They could be from an earlier/later build of either version.
Would be best if someone with the PS3 Japanese version could say whether or not the PS3 screen is what they've seen in the version they've played.
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:55
shinryu
is anyone who owns both consoles gonna get it for the 360? It's still a port, as good as it may be.
theswitcher's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:55
theswitcher
*reads sony troll comments*

*Goes back to playing NMH2 and Tatsunoko.*
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:56
Strandli
I saw some disturbing screens of the 360 version of FF13 the other day, I hope they are fake, because I saw some really big differences. Poor AA, smaller resolution, lower res bitmaps and such. It will still look very very good in motion, and I guess that's the important thing, but stuff like that would bother me very much.
Chuzzle's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:58
Chuzzle
What Pappadukes said.
teke367's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:58
teke367
Gamerpoints is one of the few things that mean less to me than disc compression. So, I'm going to go PS3 on this one. I went Bioshock 2 on 360, will get ME2 on 360 (obviously), getting Heavy Rain on PS3, so I need to get FF13 on PS3 to keep things even, lest somebody think I'm a fanboy.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 11:59
Qraze
it doesn't really matter to me because i only have a ps3, but i'm happy my 360 friends get to play it on their console.

except wii. that was phunny.
buri3's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:01
buri3
@strandii

Those were posted last week officially from square-enix, and it was a response to a previous batch of screens that were photoshopped ps3 screens.
That IS what it looks like
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:03
timtheterrible
@ Buri3

I compared those first two screen shots side by side, but I didn't see any difference at all.
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:03
Tarvu
Stopping caring so much about graphics, the graphics could be burn-your-fucking-eyes awesome yet you may not enjoy the game.
gamerwolf's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:03
gamerwolf
I'll get it for 360 because I prefer to have the achievements and Xbox Live. I do own a PS3, but just because the audio is uncompressed, and it's a single BD, I see no reason to get it.
tobalito23's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:04
tobalito23
ohh WII what has become of you.. if you took all your shitty mini games you get for the price of 50 dollars each.. you could probably make a pretty damn good wario ware game... its a shame that underneath all those shitty games you got.. theres actually very very good ones . its just .... covered by all the shittyness
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:05
hpv
It's always funny when someone as clueless as Jim Sterling about the technical workings of games comments definitively on the technical aspects of them.

Tom Davy: As a Sony fanboy by default (seeing as how there's never anything to play on my other two consoles) I have to agree. No idea why they're letting Microsoft pick their pocket on a franchise they stole fair and square from Nintendo. Maybe they just don't have the money to throw at Square-Enix right now because they've got so many major releases of their own this quarter, unlike Microsoft. Plus their corporate culture isn't based on payola from their monopoly money.
Rekai's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:05
Rekai
I fail to see why people with both systems would buy a port. I mean I would clearly buy Bayonetta on 360 before PS3 and the other way around for FF13. While the PS3 does have the technological edge over 360, it is up to the developers to deliver quality, not the system. I just can't understand why anyone would trade graphical superiority for Achievements on a ported game when they have both options. I enjoy both systems and maybe the PS3 a little more, but I just don't see anything that makes sense on the other side of the equal sign here.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:06
Shadowiii
The pictures they posted last week for the Xbox looked really bad, but some people examined them and found a mouse cursor and that made it appear the jpg compression of the image files was done really badly.
So that threw the legitness of the screens in question.
Either way, it still looks worse on the 360, which isn't a huge surprise considering it was developed completely with the PS3 in mind.
That being said, I want to see both in MOTION. Lots of games have looked great (or bad) in still, but when put into animation it can make or break the game.
Either way, I'm getting it on PS3. Might as well stick to the system it was originally made for.
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:10
SayWord
I think I will be getting this for the ps3. Mainly because I have every other ff game on a sony console. But personally if the xbox version is not as great as the ps3 version who cares. At least you can still play it right! Just make sure you play it accordingly so you dont red ring of death your machine.
KwikPwn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:10
KwikPwn
360, I like to cross game chat while I'm gaming.
azninvasion2000's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:10
azninvasion2000
so hyped for this game. don't care about slight graphical differences. i'd get this for the ps2 if thats all i had.
A Savage Detective's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:10
A Savage Detective
Does anyone know if we'll be seeing an English demo before launch?
Kaoslyon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:10
Kaoslyon
More Sony lapdog PR bullshit.

The sun sets, birds fly, and "ZOMG, EVERYTHING IZ BETTAH WIF SONY LULZ!"

That being said, I don't care which version is better. I swore off JRPG's when I accepted Bioware as my Lord and savior.
buri3's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:11
buri3
@timtheterrible

view both at full size

360 http://kotaku.com/5475086/final-fantasy-xiii-+-xbox-360-screens//gallery/7

ps3 http://kotaku.com/5470842/final-fantasy-xiii-screens-+-playstation-3/gallery/11

If you can't tell the difference right away, you need your eyes checked
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:14
Hiltz
Seems like Insomniac conveniently forgot about NMH 2, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Red Steel 2 and Monster Hunter Tri.
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:15
SayWord
@kaoslyon Bioware makes some awesome games my friend. But not to fond of their leveling system, the alwasy teh same who gives a shit conversation trees, and the fact that i forget the storyline half way through the game because of the open world. meh.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:16
The Silent Protagonist
Personally, I want FFXIII, I just don't need it next month. Its one of those games that's going to be around, ya know.

SMT: Strange Journey and Infinite Space on the other hand will probably see less units shipped. Well, that and Shin Megami Tensei has jumped ahead of Final Fantasy in my book. Don't care what platform a SMT game appears on, I will have it just to play it.

That and I care more about FFXIV than FFXIII.
theswitcher's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/23/2010 12:17
theswitcher
I'd rather be playing Tatsunoko or Red Steel 2 over Final Linear As Fuck Fantasy Anime CG Movie XIII.
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