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I doubt its a PS3 issue considering hacking to that level really has only been bad in two Call of Duty titles, while every other game has pretty much been par for the course in terms of the general BS you get in any online game.
Also... if we want to throw the "Xbox Live restrictions" card, you clearly were never around back-in-the-day when Halo 2 was popular. To quote Ghostbusters, I've seen shit that'll turn you white.
Also... if we want to throw the "Xbox Live restrictions" card, you clearly were never around back-in-the-day when Halo 2 was popular. To quote Ghostbusters, I've seen shit that'll turn you white.
@SephirothX
Probably why they fixed things. But yes, the original Xbox's Live service didn't have much to recommend it.
Probably why they fixed things. But yes, the original Xbox's Live service didn't have much to recommend it.
Yea...using Halo 2, a game from a completely different generation of hardware, is probably not the best example.
@meteorscrap
I think it needs to be reminded that PSN is for the most part still in its 1.0 phase, while XBL is on its 2.0 phase since it had the almost the full lifetime of the original Xbox to grow.
I think it needs to be reminded that PSN is for the most part still in its 1.0 phase, while XBL is on its 2.0 phase since it had the almost the full lifetime of the original Xbox to grow.
@lenigod way to be relevant Mentioning a previous generation game.
Anyway its good that they decided to sack up and fix a game that is quickly approaching a year and a half old.
Anyway its good that they decided to sack up and fix a game that is quickly approaching a year and a half old.
@amtalx & Kal Zakath
A game from a different generation, but a game from a generation that came out when Xbox Live was still in its growing phase. Basically original Xbox Live was XBL v1.0. The PSN we have now is also essentially PSN v1.0, as the PS2 online stuff really wasnt a full fledged item yet.
Using Halo 2 is a valid comparison. You're comparing XBL and PSN at relatively equal points in their own growths.
A game from a different generation, but a game from a generation that came out when Xbox Live was still in its growing phase. Basically original Xbox Live was XBL v1.0. The PSN we have now is also essentially PSN v1.0, as the PS2 online stuff really wasnt a full fledged item yet.
Using Halo 2 is a valid comparison. You're comparing XBL and PSN at relatively equal points in their own growths.
People still play MW2?? HAH!
Meh...big deal. Killzone 3 is coming out in less than a month. I've prestiged 2 profiles countless times on MW2 and Black Ops. Considering that MW3 will be developed by Activision's "C Team" (READ: the scrubs left at IW that Respawn didn't want to hire), Black Ops is most likely the franchise's last hurrah.
Go ahead, Activision. Fix the problem or pull the plug. Doesn't matter to PS3 owners either way.
Meh...big deal. Killzone 3 is coming out in less than a month. I've prestiged 2 profiles countless times on MW2 and Black Ops. Considering that MW3 will be developed by Activision's "C Team" (READ: the scrubs left at IW that Respawn didn't want to hire), Black Ops is most likely the franchise's last hurrah.
Go ahead, Activision. Fix the problem or pull the plug. Doesn't matter to PS3 owners either way.
Time for the obvious it took them long enough comment. They clearly wanted the new version to come out so people would buy that one out of hopes that it wasn't as shit clearly that didn't work out to well either. There's always next year right? *rolls eyes*
@sephy. Question... What is current generation right now... By that logic you are saying this kind of crap is perfectly acceptable because they haven't been at it as long. News flash... Its not. PS3 And the 360 are competing on the same marketplace. It is one thing to offer new services and ideas to one up the competition but it is tottaly different to to offer an inferior experience in the same space.
@SephirothX
Technically they're in their second phase. Sony just didn't do much for online gaming on the PS2, either not recognizing or not caring about the importance of online gaming.
I do give Sony a bit of a pass, but not much. $50 or $60 a year for Xbox Live isn't much in the grand scheme of things, and PSN is trying to compete with them directly. It's hard to make an argument about the value on offer from Sony when a title which sees so much use is plagued so much.
Technically they're in their second phase. Sony just didn't do much for online gaming on the PS2, either not recognizing or not caring about the importance of online gaming.
I do give Sony a bit of a pass, but not much. $50 or $60 a year for Xbox Live isn't much in the grand scheme of things, and PSN is trying to compete with them directly. It's hard to make an argument about the value on offer from Sony when a title which sees so much use is plagued so much.
I don't get this whole XBL vs PSN thing going on. If no-one remembers MW2 was horrible on XBL for about the first 6 months of MW2's life, it was plagued with JTAG lobbies, God mode hackers, care package glitches, lobbies where you get demoted and the such (all of which never occurred on the PSN). It just so happens that 1 and a half years later they hacked the PSN and somewhat similar things are happening on the PSN. People are acting as if MW2 on the PS3 was always full hacked lobbies...
@sephirothX... surprisingly, the PS3 is pretty free of glitchers and cheaters. Most of the first party games are pretty solid and any hacks tend to be fixed pretty fast. Once a game hits the one year mark or so, the support seems to usually wane, but I can't actually think of any game other than the COD series that has been hacked/glitched to the point where it's annoying to play.
I don't think it has as much to do with PSN as with the game itself. COD likely has more people trying to hack it... but they also seem to fairly easily succeed.
Anyway... interesting turn with the IW thing... though I assume they're speaking of the same "Infinity Ward" that is left within Activision and these are the same people that did Black Ops which apparently can't be hacked in the same manner because of different security protocols - so it may just be a matter of using those same systems and patching the old game.
I don't think it has as much to do with PSN as with the game itself. COD likely has more people trying to hack it... but they also seem to fairly easily succeed.
Anyway... interesting turn with the IW thing... though I assume they're speaking of the same "Infinity Ward" that is left within Activision and these are the same people that did Black Ops which apparently can't be hacked in the same manner because of different security protocols - so it may just be a matter of using those same systems and patching the old game.
Nah, I was travelling and brought MW2 for some online play, after all after BLOPS MW2 had no more 10-years old kids screaming around, then we got hacked pretty bad.
Killzone 3 couldn't take longer for me...
Killzone 3 couldn't take longer for me...
@umdum its either because people don't want to admit their precious xbox live has faults orrr people are just this ignorant. Buttt here's hoping they just forgot and has nothing to do with fanboyism hehe :P
i kinda like the hacked games, jumping a million feet in the air and running super fast makes it interesting. until the ac130 comes raining down.
"it feels like you're running at an incredible rate!" - lloyd christmas
:)
"it feels like you're running at an incredible rate!" - lloyd christmas
:)
@Sephiroth:
So basically what you're saying is Sony is a full rev behind. That I can almost agree with. The problem is that consumers aren't going to take pity on them for being late to the race. The important thing is who has the best product NOW.
So basically what you're saying is Sony is a full rev behind. That I can almost agree with. The problem is that consumers aren't going to take pity on them for being late to the race. The important thing is who has the best product NOW.
@sirspy... sorry, should have been more specific... I meant simply the part of IW that is left with Activision (and a sister company to Treyarch within Activision) as opposed to the original IW that left the company.
and what about the fucking PC version that has been overrun by hackers since day 1?? glad modders maded dedis for MW2 so we can take care of hackers by ourselfves
Like others have said, the fact that other PSN games are just fine tells me that this isn't so much Sony's fault as IW/Activision's. That said, I'm sure PSN as a whole would benefit from the ability to report abusive players and get them banned.
@sephiroth
Playstation had a networked service with the PS2, around the same time Xbox Live came out too. They were both at version 1.0 back then. There is no reason Sony couldn't get their shit together in that time. Valve didn't even get Steam off the ground until late 2003 and it is a wonderful service with plenty of security measures in place.
Playstation had a networked service with the PS2, around the same time Xbox Live came out too. They were both at version 1.0 back then. There is no reason Sony couldn't get their shit together in that time. Valve didn't even get Steam off the ground until late 2003 and it is a wonderful service with plenty of security measures in place.
@ Mrandydixon. Agreed! Take it one step furuther and instead of banning their PSN ID's ban their console so they cant go online like Xbox.
Fry that fuckin mother board!
If they get this patch out and it fixes the cheaters then I will probably keep MW2 but Im still trading in Black Ops.
Fry that fuckin mother board!
If they get this patch out and it fixes the cheaters then I will probably keep MW2 but Im still trading in Black Ops.
@Mr.Andy... you actually can report abusive players and have them banned, but you have to do it from the PC. http://np.us.playstation.com/complaint/pc/ComplaintForm.aspx
You are right though that they could benefit from an easier system used directly from the console. By the time you get to your PC, often most of the anger has worn off and most people likely just don't bother (though on the other hand, maybe this is why they force us to do it on the PC?)
You are right though that they could benefit from an easier system used directly from the console. By the time you get to your PC, often most of the anger has worn off and most people likely just don't bother (though on the other hand, maybe this is why they force us to do it on the PC?)
But is it just me or is the xbox live version just as broken, with people playing from modded xboxes and all the exploits....
As nice as it is not having to play with cheaters on Xbox Live, it's a lot nicer not having to shell out money monthly for batteries and yearly for the privilege to play online added with the cost of DLC and the slow increase in the price of games: Xbox is a money-eating animal that I just can't afford to continue feeding.
lol, so this is the excuse now? PSN is only in its 1.0 phase? And what do batteries have to do with xbox live?
@goldlion
Just get a rechargeable battery for the one time cost of $9.99. Problem solved and yes I am a miracle worker:)
Just get a rechargeable battery for the one time cost of $9.99. Problem solved and yes I am a miracle worker:)
@otogal_guy
They don't have anything to do with Xbox live, it's just another thing I gotta dump money into. Sorry for the confusion there, didn't think I was that unclear.
@Jesse7277
Only 10 bucks? Really, you sir are a miracle worker. I honestly haven't even bothered looking for one. I worked at a retail store and we didn't carry any and I just assumed it was cause they were expensive and not worth it.
To be fair and honest there wasn't a whole lot game wise that I could get that on the 360 that wasn't available on the PS3 either. Granted each system has it's own small line of amazing exclusives, but at the end of the day it always came down to me having to pay to play online with Xbox. For the price of the system, the price to play online, the price of games and the price of batteries (yes, my fuck up for not researching but still a fee none the less) I just couldn't justify keeping the Xbox. Another big deciding factor was most of games I was interested in on the Xbox, were available on the PC as well. It just didn't make sense to have a PS3, an Xbox and a PC.
They don't have anything to do with Xbox live, it's just another thing I gotta dump money into. Sorry for the confusion there, didn't think I was that unclear.
@Jesse7277
Only 10 bucks? Really, you sir are a miracle worker. I honestly haven't even bothered looking for one. I worked at a retail store and we didn't carry any and I just assumed it was cause they were expensive and not worth it.
To be fair and honest there wasn't a whole lot game wise that I could get that on the 360 that wasn't available on the PS3 either. Granted each system has it's own small line of amazing exclusives, but at the end of the day it always came down to me having to pay to play online with Xbox. For the price of the system, the price to play online, the price of games and the price of batteries (yes, my fuck up for not researching but still a fee none the less) I just couldn't justify keeping the Xbox. Another big deciding factor was most of games I was interested in on the Xbox, were available on the PC as well. It just didn't make sense to have a PS3, an Xbox and a PC.
Should have been fixed weeks ago. And to blame Sony for the hackers is shameful. I can't think of any games other than Modern Warfare and Black Ops on the PS3 that has so much hacking. Perhaps I'm wrong but i think there is a trend here....nice PR move Activision, please suck yourself off some more..
"I can't think of any games other than Modern Warfare and Black Ops on the PS3 that has so much hacking."
they are the most hacked because they have the most users. That is your trend.
they are the most hacked because they have the most users. That is your trend.
But there are more copies sold on xbox of both COD's discussed, therefore if hacking was rife across both versiond
( curse typing on a smartphone!)
Both versions would have an equal amount of hackers right? They're both amongst the most popular games on their respective platforms?
But the psn version is noticeably more hacked?
And its all Activision/iw/treyarch's fault? What?
Now unless Microsoft is specifically buying ps3s and paying dudes to hack them and play online (or indeed if action/iw/trey are engaging in said practice) how is this not a psn security issue?
Love the spin people are putting on this.
Both versions would have an equal amount of hackers right? They're both amongst the most popular games on their respective platforms?
But the psn version is noticeably more hacked?
And its all Activision/iw/treyarch's fault? What?
Now unless Microsoft is specifically buying ps3s and paying dudes to hack them and play online (or indeed if action/iw/trey are engaging in said practice) how is this not a psn security issue?
Love the spin people are putting on this.
Yes, COD is more than likely the most hacked game on 360 as well. But, Microsoft also sends out banwaves (last week, and last September if im recalling correctly), along with user policing blacklisting. When you get banned on Live, its your money loss. You cant just make another free account and get back into griefing.
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