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Inafune: Japan is making 'awful' games photo

It's that time again, folks! Yep, it's time to listen to another Japanese developer tell us that Japanese games are terrible. Capcom's Keiji Inafune, a long-term critic of his country's industry, has stated that this year's Tokyo Game Show was dismal, with his fellow countrymen creating "awful" games.

"I look around Tokyo Games Show, and everyone's making awful games," says Inafune. "Japan is at least five years behind." 

Inafune also believes that Capcom is "barely keeping up" with Western rivals, and even wants to start gearing his games to the roundeye market: "I want to study how Westerners live, and make games that appeal to them."

I want to defend the Japanese market, but I'm finding that the country's games are appealing to me less and less, and this is someone who was once a big JRPG nut. Nearly every JRPG that comes out now just makes me feel slightly sick, and that's no way to be.

Aside from a handful of games like Vanquish and Kirby's Epic Yarn, nearly every game I'm excited for this quarter is Western. It's pretty sad, and I really hope Japan manages to find a spark soon. 

Japanese Playing a New Video Game: Catch-Up [New York Times]








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Mike Wuest's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:04
Mike Wuest
Agreed. I think the last RPG I really enjoyed was Lost Odyssey...how many have come out since then? I couldn't even look at FFXIII without getting angry. Here's hoping 'The Last Story' helps to right the ship.
Enzi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:04
Enzi
He definitely has a point with JRPGs.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:04
Mr Andy Dixon
"I want to study how Westerners live"

We're naked A LOT.
NoMore's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:05
NoMore
I'm pretty excited for some Japanese games. But saying your own country is 5 years behind is a bit harsh.
Onyx Oblivion's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:07
Onyx Oblivion
I miss my JRPGs...as recently as the PS2, I was having a grand old time.

Now, the best I've seen this gen is still Tales of Vesperia. And that's 2 years old!
king kong five's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:10
king kong five
@NoMore

Really? I thought he was being kinda generous with five... I'd say ten is more like it.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:10
KingSigy
Infaune is Geddy Lee?

I don't know about Keiji's constant bashing of the Japanese market. They seem to be doing fine in their native land. I know that it's never great to have a lockdown on only one market, but the Japanese don't dislike games, so I doubt they will ever fail.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:10
Brian Szabelski
Wow, Mr. Inafune sure looks different.
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:10
amtalx
Japanese game design has been archaic of late, but I don't think it needs to be abandoned for western ideals. I'd like to see more of the east/west fusion we are getting with Vanquish.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:11
Chris Carter
Step 1 - stop Bieber May Cry from being made.

Step 2 - make DMC 5 based off an HD DMC3 engine, and have it star Vergil.

Step 3 - profit.
Neroisonfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:12
Neroisonfire
He kinda looks like Bono. I think that's who I'm thinking of.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:16
Tubatic
I like that Inafune talks mad yang about Japanese game making. A little smack talk could go along way to pushing some pride buttons in those old companies.

And it's working, right? Quantum theory may be a Japanese stab at stop and pop, and it may not be great, but there's an attempt to branch J-Style 3rd Person Actioners out of the pre-DMC comfort zone that eastern developers mostly hang out in (aside from platinum and grasshopper)
Killrig's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:17
Killrig
Final Fantasy XIII certainly didn't help. Neither does Metroid: Other M.
OWENR22's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:19
OWENR22
That picture is Geddyrific.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:20
Aurain
Weird how the vast majority of the best games this year have been Japanese then.

Bayonetta, Persona 3 Portable, Valkyria Chronicles 2, Peace Walker, Mario Galaxy 2, Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, No More Heroes 2, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Yakuza 3, Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver.

FFXIII, depending on your tastes and how far you actually got in the game.

Whats the biggest upcoming game coming soon?
Dead Rising 2, Inafune's game.

Vanquish is coming. 3DS is rumoured for Nov 22, Valkyria 3, Catherine, Gran Turismo 5.

It's largely depending on your taste, but Japanese gaming is strong as ever.
Gilgamesh1317's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:20
Gilgamesh1317
""I look around Tokyo Games Show, and everyone's making awful games," says Inafune."

Is it wrong that I laughed so hard at this? I can just imagine him walking around shouting "YOUR GAMES ARE BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD".
Woopman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:22
Woopman
What? Does Nintendo count in this? 'Cause I don't think any of their new games is "awful".
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:24
Xzyliac
@Aurain
While I disagree that those games have been the best this year, or that a few of them were good in general, I agree Japan's presence has been really strong as of late.

I mean I can't remember a time when the Eastern gaming crowd was this happy. To see the East pull these BS "Let's be more Western" stunts is really kind of frustrating to watch. And I don't even care for them.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:24
Mr Andy Dixon
@Magnalon

I laughed hard at "Bieber May Cry".
Butternine's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:26
Butternine
"I want to study how Westerners live, and make games that appeal to them."

As much as it's good to hear that, it's also part of the problem I think. Up until the mid 00's Japanese developers were making Japanese games, and that's what I love(d) about them. When they start to think like a Western or tailor their games to us, they lose their Japanese "soul". Millions upon millions of people bought Japanese games before they were severely westernized.

I think it's just a misconception of what people think they want, and what the providers of those wants think what is wanted of them, regardless of nationality.

Sorry about that last sentence :)
Onyx Oblivion's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:26
Onyx Oblivion
@Aurain

My taste liked FF13 enough to finish it, and my taste gives it an 9/10, as my tastes loved that combat system. And my taste gives Sazh a "best FF character ever" award.

I do like Japanese games, it's just that they're aren't as many high quality JRPGs. The PS1/PS2 era was a JRPG a month, with few bad ones. Not to say their are none now, I'm adoring VC1 right now. And it's Skies of Arcadia squad members.

That said, the Japanese still know how to make a high-octane action game. Unlike the west, which is loving realism/semi-realism, and getting away from zany, over the top action.
ComboKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:27
ComboKing
I agree partly with what he said. but nintendo is japanese and they are kicking butt with the games they are bringing out. Look at America shooters like crazy! We need more platforers. :)
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:29
Chris Carter
Butternine summed it up for me.
deiga-the-semivaliant's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:30
deiga-the-semivaliant
@Gilgamesh1317 I'm imagining him walking around with a delirious expression, his eyes wild with panic and desperation. "SHITTY GAMES! I'M SURROUNDED BY SHITTY GAMES!"
Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:32
Everyday Legend
What's strange is how I feel more love for Capcom's Japanese offerings than their "reverse weeaboo" stunts.

You want to make money? POWER STONE THREE. Do that shit.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:33
Aurain
@Onyx

Atleier Rorona and Ar tonelico Qoga are on the horizon. I believe Rorona is next week in the US. Even if it turns out below average, there are developers coming out with classic JRPG's still.
the7k's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:37
the7k
RPGs are slagging behind in a huge way, sure - but almost every game I'm looking forward to is of Japanese origin. Marvel vs Capcom 3, King of Fighters XIII, Disgaea 4, Sengoku Basara 3, Valkyria Chronicle 3, Ni No Kuni, PixelJunk Lifelike... heck, even Gal Gun looks entertaining to me. I'll take these games over the endless streams of GTA and COD entries/clones any day of the week.

When he says he wants to make games for Westerners, it makes me worry. Many of Capcom's most flawed games have been ones that included features for the sake of courting Western audiences (Resident Evil 5 comes to mind, as well as Dark Void and Lost Planet 2). If Capcom were to completely abandon their hometown flavor, they'd cease to be Capcom.

And when I hear him say that all the games of TGS were awful - seriously, he sounds like a blind asshole. There were plenty of great f'ing games shown off.
Sir playedallot's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:37
Sir playedallot
the last really good jrpg, was suikoden 2, nuff said
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:40
Xzyliac
@the7k
I'll take these games over the endless streams of GTA and COD entries/clones any day of the week.

What is this? 2003?
Tomasz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:44
Tomasz
So what's the inverse to weeabo? He's got mad round-eye envy, this one.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:44
Aurain
@Xzy

I wouldn't argue that GTA clones are abundant, and most are pretty good.

That being said CoD and it's sister franchise Battlefield's increasingly annual entries are nothing to be proud of. They're all the same shit.
dontstaylong's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:46
dontstaylong
inafune is a modern day warrior with a mean mean stride. Though his mind is not for rent, don't put him down as arrogant. His reserve, a quiet defense, riding out the day's events.

THEEEE RIIVER.
Sir playedallot's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:47
Sir playedallot
"That being said CoD and it's sister franchise Battlefield's increasingly annual entries are nothing to be proud of. They're all the same shit."

Aurain
imagine there are ppl saying the same about every recently released jrpg. they are all the same shit
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:50
Aurain
But they're not recycling the same era specific weaponry despite the game being set 40 years prior like Black Ops.
Necro BABS's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:57
Necro BABS
Giddy lee would like a word with u. Rush is so much better then Anthing that guy out out. Tarnish the lee ? For shame.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:57
Mr Andy Dixon
@Aurain

"But they're not recycling the same era specific weaponry despite the game being set 40 years prior like Black Ops."

JRPGs recycle plenty enough as it is.
AliasWyvernspur's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:58
AliasWyvernspur
Just dropping by to thumbs-up Geddy.

What's this about bad games now?
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:59
Monodi
I believe the japanese are very creative in concepts. Still I am glad that the gaming development expanded far across the seas.
savagesaladin's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 12:59
savagesaladin
@Aurain

I thought of that too, but theres no definitive timescale for Black Ops.
EggmaniMN's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 13:02
EggmaniMN
I'm finding Japan's games to appeal to me more and more these days as the west just keeps churning out multiplayer-centric sequels. I want my single player games damn it.

I own two western games for my PS3 and those are Infamous, which came with the system and Saints Row 2, which I got for $5. I own two western games for my Wii, those being Metroid Prime Trilogy and A Boy & His Blob. My 360 has something like 6 western games but they're also the only games I never really feel like playing for more than a few minutes because the single player to them tends to be extremely boring (Blur, Halo Reach, Skate 3, Transformers actually had good single player but the multiplayer's now segmented and mostly dead, MW2 which is dead to me now and Splinter Cell, which I also bought for $5 and was fairly fun but short).

Compare that to the 55 games I own otherwise that are literally all by Japanese developers, all of which give me a vastly better single player experience.

And for the record, it's not time for "another" person to say Japanese games suck. It's just Inafune. He's literally the only one saying that.
the7k's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 13:16
the7k
@Xzy
What is this? 2003?

Maybe when things stop looking like they did a decade ago. I look at games like Mafia II, InFamous, Prototype, Red Dead Redemption, and a few others, and all I see are GTA clones. (Some higher quality than others, obviously.) The amount of FPSs out there that have decided to whole-sale rip-off COD are too innumerable to count, although the recent bastardization of Medal of Honor is one that hit me, considering I loved the series on the PS1 and PS2.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 13:26
Super Drybones
Everything is shit except what isn't.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 13:26
Super Drybones
Everything is shit except what isn't.
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 13:33
Blasto
More Demon's Souls, less Lost Planet 2.
Jomonoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 13:36
Jomonoe
At least they're making Valkyria.
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 13:45
UltorOscariot
It seems like every time there is a big western release like Halo: Reach, the japanese devs say the sky is falling. There were several good releases earlier this year. Just realize that you can't spend 5 years making cut scene extravaganzas with chose your flavor auto battle systems and you'll find your way.

Stay you, Japan. We don't need any more FPS shooter factories.
L0cky's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 13:47
L0cky
maybe technical japan is behind the west , but most western games are generic like hell (looking at all the fps'games)
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 13:55
Chris Carter
Blasto ALSO summed it up for me :)
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 14:01
Mr Andy Dixon
Yeah, what Blasto said.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2010 14:10
killias2
I agree 100% with his jrpg statement. Years ago, all I played were jrpgs. Now, with the exceptions of Demon's Souls and Half Minute Hero, I just couldn't give a damn.

Still there are plenty of good Japanese games coming. However, the great majority of them have Capcom or Nintendo behind them...
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