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I'm terribly worried. These type of movies end up trying to appeal to both gamers and the unknowing movie goer and typically end up failing to please either.
I think that Silent Hill is one of the better video game movies out there. I missed some musical scores but overall it was a good and creepy movie and it had all the good bits of Silent Hill in it. Even some cool video-game like camera pans were in it so I'd really say if one movie has done it right then it's Silent Hill.
Ico and the last guardian as a movie? Ouch. I don't think Ico's theme would work in a movie. The last guardian on the other hand could work if it's CGI but with human characters and the bird thing? That would be really really tough to handle.
Ico and the last guardian as a movie? Ouch. I don't think Ico's theme would work in a movie. The last guardian on the other hand could work if it's CGI but with human characters and the bird thing? That would be really really tough to handle.
"translate that into a narrative that people are going to want to watch for two hours"
that sound like hollywoodizing it (ie. let's add cliche bullshit!)
that sound like hollywoodizing it (ie. let's add cliche bullshit!)
These are better experiences as games, there is no value to be gained from turning them into movies.
i'd prefer to watch an expert's walkthrough of Shadow of the Colossus HD in a movie screen. That'd be amazing.
If it's made by a Japanese studio and not Hollywood I'll definitely watch it. :)
I've been watching a lot of good foreign films lately.
I've been watching a lot of good foreign films lately.
Nero is right. And out of the three of these games (even though LG hasn't been released yet) it seems like SotC would be the HARDEST to make into a movie, unless you made it a CG movie. It seems to have the least plot and the most un-stageable scenes.
I mean, they essentially HAVE TO have scenes where Wander has full on conversations with his horse if you want to keep audiences interested, and I think that will come off as weird to us.
And as for the Silent Hill movie; Just take away the very beginning and the very end of the movie and you have a frickin' awesome movie on your hands.
Basically, it should begin with the Mother-Daughter drive to Silent Hill, with only a hint that they're going there due to the daughters dreams, then BAM, car crash and missing daughter. (like, the long drive there is the credits scene)
Then, remove the stupid 'white light and "Here's exactly what happened" explanation' scene and we're left to piece together the story on our own (as any good Silent Hill tale SHOULD be).
I just wish they'd release like a directors cut or something with these changes.
I mean, they essentially HAVE TO have scenes where Wander has full on conversations with his horse if you want to keep audiences interested, and I think that will come off as weird to us.
And as for the Silent Hill movie; Just take away the very beginning and the very end of the movie and you have a frickin' awesome movie on your hands.
Basically, it should begin with the Mother-Daughter drive to Silent Hill, with only a hint that they're going there due to the daughters dreams, then BAM, car crash and missing daughter. (like, the long drive there is the credits scene)
Then, remove the stupid 'white light and "Here's exactly what happened" explanation' scene and we're left to piece together the story on our own (as any good Silent Hill tale SHOULD be).
I just wish they'd release like a directors cut or something with these changes.
I don't know how Shadow of the Colossus would make a good film. I understand his point in saying that something needs to be learned, but that was translated well into the gameplay. You learned what to expect next. A montage scene would just ruin everything.
I don't think these two games would make very good films at all. The main reason players attach on such an emotional level to Ico and SotC is because of the direct connection you have with the events of the games. You are responsible for protecting Yorda. You choose to kill the colossi and suffer the consequences.
As soon as you remove their control over the main character and give the audience a passive point of view rather than an active one, that emotional connection is excised as well.
This is especially true with SotC, since a lot of the panic and excitement that comes from battling the colossi is derived from the gameplay mechanics themselves. Trying to plan your next move while precariously perched on the back of a giant magical golem, or desperately trying to get the final strike in before your grip gauge empties entirely makes the fights a hell of a lot more interesting than just watching someone do it and having no control over what actions he takes.
As soon as you remove their control over the main character and give the audience a passive point of view rather than an active one, that emotional connection is excised as well.
This is especially true with SotC, since a lot of the panic and excitement that comes from battling the colossi is derived from the gameplay mechanics themselves. Trying to plan your next move while precariously perched on the back of a giant magical golem, or desperately trying to get the final strike in before your grip gauge empties entirely makes the fights a hell of a lot more interesting than just watching someone do it and having no control over what actions he takes.
the looser the connection, the better chance there is of these movies not totally blowing balls.
I think if they just borrowed the basic premise "dude has to kill a few huge ass monsters to save his chick" that would be MORE than enough of a reference to the games.
I think if they just borrowed the basic premise "dude has to kill a few huge ass monsters to save his chick" that would be MORE than enough of a reference to the games.
The jump from book to movie is somewhat easy unless the book is all about atmosphere.
The jump from game to movie is tons harder, unless the games were designed to play out like movies.
SOTC was not designed like that. It was cinematic, but it was primarily a interactive experience for a reason. Movie will be "meh".
The jump from game to movie is tons harder, unless the games were designed to play out like movies.
SOTC was not designed like that. It was cinematic, but it was primarily a interactive experience for a reason. Movie will be "meh".
Dammit. I thought they forgot about doing that.
Don't these people understand the strengths of different mediums? Can't they accept that?
I'm all for pushing a medium forward and trying to blend them and all, but that is not what this is.
SotC was already cinematic for a game, so they probably though "oh, this may translate well."
But, no. It won't.
Just. Stop.
The Ico realm is all about NOT EXPLAINING ANYTHING AND LETTING YOU WONDER IN THE MYSTERY. It is about vagueness. It is not about learning experiences. It is about something beyond language, and language is used sparingly because it destroys that effect.
No one wants this to happen except the people making the movie.
I get it. Creative people are stubborn. They can see potential where others can't.
They want to be part of the franchises they love.
And so they create really expensive, really terrible fan fiction.
Someday they'll look back and say "you know, it was obvious in retrospect. We got a couple of things wrong in our heads... and that allowed us to spend our lives defiling things that people loved. Everyone said stop, and we were like, 'no, you don't know what it's going to be- so great!' and they were right. We should have stopped. It was fun, though, I guess. I'm glad I got paid for making films no one wanted to see, but I probably could have done something better with my time."
Don't these people understand the strengths of different mediums? Can't they accept that?
I'm all for pushing a medium forward and trying to blend them and all, but that is not what this is.
SotC was already cinematic for a game, so they probably though "oh, this may translate well."
But, no. It won't.
Just. Stop.
The Ico realm is all about NOT EXPLAINING ANYTHING AND LETTING YOU WONDER IN THE MYSTERY. It is about vagueness. It is not about learning experiences. It is about something beyond language, and language is used sparingly because it destroys that effect.
No one wants this to happen except the people making the movie.
I get it. Creative people are stubborn. They can see potential where others can't.
They want to be part of the franchises they love.
And so they create really expensive, really terrible fan fiction.
Someday they'll look back and say "you know, it was obvious in retrospect. We got a couple of things wrong in our heads... and that allowed us to spend our lives defiling things that people loved. Everyone said stop, and we were like, 'no, you don't know what it's going to be- so great!' and they were right. We should have stopped. It was fun, though, I guess. I'm glad I got paid for making films no one wanted to see, but I probably could have done something better with my time."
this director is totally missing the point if he wants to make a SotC movie. the game was already a revolution of the gaming formula. what other game you battle boss after boss without slaying a single minion? or platforming the hell to get there? And ppl loved, because it was beautiful. Why not make the same with the movie? forget the hollywood mind and make it art.
Sadly, if this ever gets done it's gonna be less about "making it unique and artful" and more about "we're gonna cast Shia LaBeouf as Wander!!!"
Guillermo del Toro is extremely busy. It won't happen, and for that I'm glad: film adaptations of videogames are exercises in redundancy, in general. He is too talented to waste his time on a non-interactive copy of an interactive experience which already exists.
Ya make it! This will be a film to rival the likes of star wars and lord of the rings. Video game based movies have always been praised for there loyalty to the source material and there addition to the games lore is just amazing! Give me more Lora croft and super mario bros. Any day ( no seriously, who ever is working on the mass effect movie, if u fail I'll hunt u done and gut u like a fish)
I'm gonna have to say this guy needs to get his head out of his ass. These games were never about visuals, being cinematic, atmosphere... any of that... These games have been able to pull people into their worlds like no other. And not just in a "oh wow, this is a cool game" kind of way, but emotionally... I remember reading reviews about Ico and how everyone was caring and crying for the characters and I laughed at them for being childish. But yeah, I shed a few tears in those games, and cheered in relief as the princess caught the boy's hand at the last second after a horrifying jump. That's what those games were about: Those experiences and actually caring about your on screen avatar. Never played an other game like that since... And the thing is, no matter how great those movies will be, that emotional pull and weight from those games will never be able to come across in the big screen. That's why the movies will never be as good, never even come close. That's why they'll be so utterly pointless.
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