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[It's time for another Monthly Musing -- the monthly community blog theme that provides readers with a chance to get their articles and discussions printed on the frontpage. -- CTZ

Ever since I can remember, I've been playing videogames. It just came natural to me, and I've worked my way up from my Sega Genesis all the way to the current generation. And in those years of playing, I happen to think I'm pretty damn good at them. I beat Master Ninja mode on Ninja Gaiden Black, Hard on Contra 4, I can one-credit clear the first three Metal Slugs on a good day, and I've made

my bitch. However, after so many years of playing (and a recent thrashing at Marvel vs Capcom 2), I've come to a conclusion. I really suck at fighting games.

Its not like I haven't tried to get better at them. Ever since the early days of my youth, my brother and I would battle it out (read: mast buttons like a spastic monkey) on Street Fighter II: Championship Edition. I played almost all kinds of fighting games since -- the juggle-happy Tekkens, the Rock-Paper-Scissors System of Dead or Alive, the hyper-active craziness of the Marvel vs Capcom series, the methodical feel of Samurai Showdown, too plenty more.

I suck at all of them. I was the real life version of Dan Hibiki, desperately trying to be something I wasn't, but my pride wouldn't let me quit.



I practiced. I practiced quite a bit. I would go to Shoryuken.com and look up tips, BnB combos, links, strats, command lists, counters, parries, super cancels; all in vain. Every time I'd think I have a new strategy, somebody half-decent would come and perfect my ass in embarrassing fashion. Usually in front of my friends.

I lay awake at night wondering why my fighting game prowess was on the same level as a domestic house cat. Could this just be one of those things I just couldn't do? Was I not practicing enough? If I can clear Do DonPachi in one credit, surely I can win two matches in a row just once, right?

And that's when it donned on me. I went and started up Do DonPachi. I flew through the game, like I always do. I've memorized where all the ships are. I know how every bullet pattern came out. I knew when its time to freak the hell out and bomb everything. And then I proceed to get my ass handed to me on the later half of the second loop, but thats beside the point. Point is, I know this game like the back of my hand.

I then went eonline in Street Fighter IV. I picked Ken because shotos were the only thing I could ever understand. I enter a game against a Ryu, and, in a little less than two minutes, the Ryu player completely destroys me. He plugs in his mic and talks obscenities about my mom (as if the ass-whooping wasn't enough) and leaves me bad feedback. I didn't care. I had proven my theory. Fighting games are unpredictable.



Battletoads' Turbo Tunnel is challenging at first, but if you play enough you can memorize the whole thing. Gradius V is pretty hard at first, but with enough practice you can just as easily keep going for loops and loops. Donkey Kong Country 2's Animal Antics will slap you silly at first, but after using the huge stockpile of lives you have on the level, you will know every jump/enemy/thorn/etc Rare designed.

Fighting games don't work like that. You can never predict exactly how the next enemy is gonna fight. He may throw out a Hadouken, he may try a jump-in combo, he may try an empty jump-in and grab you, he may dash back and forward to bait you into mistakes, etc. I've been trying to play as if I knew everyone's strategy, but I really have no idea. And when you practice like that, you're just going nowhere.

That was two years ago. Try as I may, I just can't change the way I play. Give me PS2 Shinobi and I'll burn through it in less than a hour. Give me Viewtiful Joe and I'll get perfect Rainbow Vs on all sections. Give me Contra Shattered Soldier and I'll S-rank the entire playthrough. But give me a fighting game and well, you got me.



Fuck you, Ryu.







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ifyouseekaaron's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 16:57
ifyouseekaaron
I was thinking of posting something like this about MvC2. I'm hella bad at that game. You're not alone.

I suck at fighting games.
Blindfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 17:06
Blindfire
I know your pain, man. I just finished my entry for this month; fighting games are the bane of my existence. If only I didn't love them so.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 17:24
DaedHead8
Yeah, fighting games are gonna be popular for this month's monthly musing theme, I can just feel it. And I'm with you guys. I'll be scrub-tier for life. I'm ok with it though, when it comes to Fighting Games I have fun with it.
Narishma's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 18:55
Narishma
Daedhead8: Exactly, you don't need to win every time to enjoy fighting games. It's like sports. A lot of people enjoy watching them on TV, or even playing them casually but only a small minority can be very good at them.

Also, the only way to get good at fighting games is to play regularly against players better than you, and preferably not online. Unfortunately a lot of people don't have that kind of players around.
smurfee mcgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 21:05
smurfee mcgee
That's what makes fighting games amazing and enraging at the same time.
Good write-up.
decoyb's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 21:27
decoyb
I support this blog, I also suck at fighting games. I identify more with Bang though, he's manlier and sweatier than Dan.

They're still fun though, I mostly play with folks from dtoid. The ps3 guys are pretty good on average but they're laid back and nice about it, I'd guess the 360 guys are the same.
de BLOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 21:57
de BLOO
@Decoyb

The 360 crowd is pretty much the same.

Man it's gonna be great to look down at people who suck at fighting games this month. :D

Just kidding, just kidding. :P

I hope people don't write off Fighting games, they're just a different fun than most other genres offer.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 23:47
DaedHead8
I agree, fighting De Bloo's Akuma is definitely a "different" kind of fun. =D
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 02:52
GoldenGamerXero
I like to put fighting games on hard difficulty all the time. It means if I lose I can blame the fact it's on hard but if I win I'm UBER-POWERFUL!I don't really have a problem with fighting games once I get the hang of them.

It's not that there unpredictable but you just have to figure out where they're going to pop out from before they do it. Then again I'm one of those weird people who can beat Megaman stages on their first run through.
Zippyduda's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 03:12
Zippyduda
You need to start playing Bloody Roar then. Now THAT is a fighting game and a half.

The fighting game I'm best at is SFIV and sometimes SSF2THDR.
flabzilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 19:16
flabzilla
I gave up on fighting games after I bought soul calibour 2.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 19:18
pedrovay2003
I like the Battletoads and Gradius analogies. Didn't really think of it like that.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 19:29
Dan CiTi
Unpredictability is what I like about fighting games, the idea of a true test of skill and the ability to face off against something or someone so head-on is also something I love. By the way, Ryu is better than Ken at least in SFIV anyway.

I'm not goog at fighters either, but it isn't too hard to get the hang of them. It is all about getting comfortable with characters and learning to think on your feat and really finding a way to naturally react to things happening. I hate strategies and over complications in fighting games. Playing them on such a high level isn't very fun.

To sum it up, fighting games are super fun and I hope people don't right them off.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 19:41
manasteel88
Ryu is a liar.

good write up. I feel the same way...except I'm ok at fighting games...not really awful but nowhere near good.
Furyfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 19:44
Furyfire
Fighting Games are my forte... now, I bitch and complain alot, but thats how most fighting game fans are. MOST.

I'm mediocre at MvC2 (Pretty much a 50-50 win-loss ratio.) Decent at BlazBlue. Good at Guilty Gear XX. Soul Calibur Series is where I really shine. I dunno why. My win ratio is 75% online, or around that area. And I've won tournaments....

Side Scrolling, 2-d Fighting Games I tend to do alright in.. but 3d is my best. I'm pretty good at Virtua Fighter and Tekken, but Soul Calibur.. woo.

Now.. platformers.. I SUCK. XD
Cataract's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 19:50
Cataract
Fuck yes DoDonPachi. I used to be able to beat the game on 3 or 4 credits, but I haven't played it in a long time.

But anyway, a lot of times with fighting games it's not only finding a character you're comfortable with, but a style. For most Street Fighter games, my main is E. Honda, but depending on which game it is, I'll have a different strategy with him. SF4 I play mostly defensive, whereas HD Remix I play more aggressively. The point I'm trying to make is that it takes time to find where you're comfortable with fighting games.
KenjiXSamurai's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 20:05
KenjiXSamurai
I Love This Article, Also I Hate It When Someone Spams. Not Just Spammers In General, I Mean Those Who Know How And When To Exploit "Flaws", Its Infuriating. Its Definitely Fun When You Figure Out How To Counter It Though, Fighting Games Are Interesting At How Much "Science" "Frame Data" And All Goes Into Punching Someone In The Face.
Canti-sama's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 20:42
Canti-sama
Man, he stole the pic of Dan I had on my blog about how much I suck at fighting games! DIRTY COPYCAT! lol
Gyrael's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 21:44
Gyrael
@Chronic
That's amazingly accurate.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 21:50
Usedtabe
How do you fare in other online games? Like FPS's or third person shooters? Those are sometimes as unpredictable as fighting games. I'm very low-tier at fighting games myself, but I love them so much for the reason you mentioned you're bad at them. That and the fact that if you get your ass kicked, it's no one's fault but your own. Great blog.
10BobMarleys's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 21:54
10BobMarleys
I'm pretty awesome at fighting games, but I'll still come across someone I shouldn'ta fucked with from time to time. Such is the nature of the beast.
Kylehyde's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 22:47
Kylehyde
I know how do you feel dude, I really suck at fighting games, even if I practice is really hard for me to win a round, and almost impossible to win a match. But for some strange reason, I love the fighting games.
Ninja In Distress's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2009 22:47
Ninja In Distress
AWESOME! Front page! And on my first Monthly Musing! Thanks D'Toid.

But seriously folks: I really, REALLY suck ass at fighting games unless it called Power Stone or Smash Bros >_>
Nerdy Suit's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2009 01:13
Nerdy Suit
I'll bet you anything that I suck at fighting games more than you do.

I got caught up in the hype and actually bought SFIV thinking that I would dedicate myself and be as good as I am in other games...and I just got tired of getting my ass kicked over and over and over again. And the thought that it was probably some 11-year-old whooping my butt over Xbox Live made it even worse.

This might be a weird comparison, but Charles Barkley, one of the best basketball players and athletes of the 80's and 90's, can't hit a golf ball to save his live. Humans just have strengths and weaknesses in different areas.
shinigamiDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2009 01:18
shinigamiDude
Nice one , RTS and VS games are more unpredictable than FPS multiplayers.
I think i'm pretty decent in fighting games but now i'm trying not to use the righat analog in BlazBlue , lol.
I still kinda suck at SFIV but i just got that "beat the arcade mode on hardest difficulty" achievement by chance last week , lol.And i shamelessly unlock all the characters by playing on easiest mode.
EggmaniMN's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2009 01:19
EggmaniMN
The problems that a lot of people have is that they look up strategies and practice BnB's and such, but they never really learn how to figure things out by situation. You can't just go in with one strategy and try to apply it to a guy with his own. You have to figure out how to be flexible with it and work parts of it in here and there. This is why I love Arakune. I can be unbelievably flexible becoming defensive and then offensive in the blink of an eye (although I prefer pure offensive. I use Cammy in SF4 and just rush down everything, even though that is clearly not the best strategy in that game. Still, I have a 75+% winning record online so I have to be playing at least somewhat well, y'know?
The Kevster's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2009 02:11
The Kevster
I suck at fightan games too! :(
cuz I always play by myself against the AI and I lose the online all the time
GRIMDARK's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2009 04:10
GRIMDARK
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Moltar's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2009 05:33
Moltar
I used to think I was the absolute boss at fighting games until my first online experience on Mortal Kombat 3. Now it'a FPS games all the way!
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2009 05:54
Maurice Tan
Yep, this is the one genre I suck at the most. But like Daedhead8 says: they can still be fun even if you suck at them :)
SSKudu's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2009 09:04
SSKudu
I am in the same boat. I was quite disappointed when I bought the £70 SFIV fight stick thinking that my suckiness was mainly down to the 360 d-pad and realised it had very little impact. One day I shall beat Arcade with Ryu though. One day.
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2009 09:42
Gen Eric Gui
One thing I've found is that a lot of people who claim to suck at fighting games just don't block enough. You can learn all the combos and strats you want, but if you can't defend yourself you're going to lose every time.

EggmaniMN has a point as well, a large part of fighting games is the ability to adapt to what your opponent is doing, as well as learning your opponent and how they respond to different stimuli. So ultimately, the OP is right in that you can't just memorize the game and plow through it, fighters really are a completely different beast from every other single player game.
sire masta's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2009 13:04
sire masta
If your better than these two you don't suck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ120_VMPqM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eeventhubs%2Ecom%2Fnews%2F2009%2Faug%2F07%2Fbutton%2Dmashing%2Dwin%2F&feature=player_embedded#movie_player
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