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Cute design with the can. I can see how as a collector, this would have appeal. Love the Mega Man soundtracks from back in the day.
What are those circular things placed around the can? I feel like I remember them from my childhood... In the 1800s... Seriously though, who other than the weaboo author even buys CDs any more?
Dude, you really wrote 3 articles and over 1,000 words about this thing? It might be time to ease up a bit on Mega Man.
Am I the only gamer that doesn't like most retro video game music? Most of it is alright as background music for the game I'm playing, but besides the Mach Rider theme and SMB underwater theme I wouldn't actually listen to classic video game music on its own.
@Char Aznable
I only wrote two. One was by Jayson Napolitano.
@Nicholas Lamarra
Most likely. A lots of old game music rely on strong melodies and the kinds of techniques that famous musicians and composers use to create memorable songs and film scores. Extra Credits even did a lovely episode on the subject.
I only wrote two. One was by Jayson Napolitano.
@Nicholas Lamarra
Most likely. A lots of old game music rely on strong melodies and the kinds of techniques that famous musicians and composers use to create memorable songs and film scores. Extra Credits even did a lovely episode on the subject.
I want this if only for the can, but I just can't justify $200 for it. I guess I'll just have to be happy with my E tank energy drink.
I would look forward to downloading this collection, but I already have all of the music in this collection anyway. NSFE's are great.
It would be nice as a collector's item, but not $200 nice.
It would be nice as a collector's item, but not $200 nice.
You have Mega Man 7-10 music plus the PlayStation-exclusive tracks as NSFEs!? Pray tell how you made such magic happen.
@jamesesdad
People who aren't Apple tools who actually want to own their music. I take it, since you felt compelled to call the author a "weaboo" because he likes to own his music, that you don't fall into this category.
People who aren't Apple tools who actually want to own their music. I take it, since you felt compelled to call the author a "weaboo" because he likes to own his music, that you don't fall into this category.
@tony
Your not crazy, its worth it to you and its a nice collection so go for it, you'd probably regret it if you didn't.
Also I can't hear the word mega man without being filled with rage at capcom, wonder why that is?
Your not crazy, its worth it to you and its a nice collection so go for it, you'd probably regret it if you didn't.
Also I can't hear the word mega man without being filled with rage at capcom, wonder why that is?
@jamesesdad (probably sic, should probably be james'dad)
Lots of people still prefer physical media and buy compact discs, just like lots of people still buy games at retail instead of going the digital download route.
Just because something is passe, or is useless to you, it doesn't mean that it shouldn't exist.
I will listen to CDs and even vinyl records on my high quality analog system for years to come, thank you. You can enjoy your lossy mp3s on computer speakers if you prefer.
Lots of people still prefer physical media and buy compact discs, just like lots of people still buy games at retail instead of going the digital download route.
Just because something is passe, or is useless to you, it doesn't mean that it shouldn't exist.
I will listen to CDs and even vinyl records on my high quality analog system for years to come, thank you. You can enjoy your lossy mp3s on computer speakers if you prefer.
Physical discs are good for three things:
1. Unless the digital music in your collection is in a lossless format (and for direct videogame rips, I highly doubt they would be), you don't own the music in the highest quality possible. If you need to rip additional copies, you have a high-quality source from which to extract audio.
2. By owning both a physical and a digital copy of an album, you are covered in the event either format should suffer failure or corruption.
3. In the case of highly collectible merchandise such as this, the value of the physical copy will only increase as time goes on. Should you ever find yourself strapped for cash, you've got a quick and easy source of income. Why, I own merchandise in my personal collection that is currently at a value four to five times what I originally paid. With digital copies, you've got squat.
1. Unless the digital music in your collection is in a lossless format (and for direct videogame rips, I highly doubt they would be), you don't own the music in the highest quality possible. If you need to rip additional copies, you have a high-quality source from which to extract audio.
2. By owning both a physical and a digital copy of an album, you are covered in the event either format should suffer failure or corruption.
3. In the case of highly collectible merchandise such as this, the value of the physical copy will only increase as time goes on. Should you ever find yourself strapped for cash, you've got a quick and easy source of income. Why, I own merchandise in my personal collection that is currently at a value four to five times what I originally paid. With digital copies, you've got squat.
Awesomesauce... I love me some 8-bit music. Still I've always wanted a Metroid music collection. At least I have Rocketman to tie me over.
Yeah Tony, you are nuts for wanting this. But that's part of why we love you. All the coverage you give to random Mega Man stuff here on Dtoid warms my heart.
Wow, Tony, you're so cool. Inferring a false statement from my post and then mocking it! I wish I could be as cool as you.
@pedrovay So since I believe its not worth getting raped by the music industry, for what's the worst value based on the amount content you get (across ALL forms of media), this makes me an apple tool? yeah... that's some solid deductive reasoning with a steaming pile of sweeping generalization on top. Your argument would have almost warranted a genuine response, had you not lambasted me for something completely off topic which only served to reveal your own personal bias about an electronics company. He's a weaboo because hes willing to justify to us (and himself) that almost 200 dollars for 10 japanese cds in a cool tin is worth it (twice no less) because...drumroll please...its ok in japan to screw people on media prices?
@youngreezy (probably sic, should be young greasy, I know how my name is spelled thanks)If lots of people still buy compact discs, then explain why music sales year over year see declines? See heres the thing, the music industry is in the shitter, and its not just physical media, but digital as well (although significantly stronger downturn in physical sales). Need proof?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/01/06/132694660/2010-was-a-very-bad-year-for-trying-to-sell-music
Heres an article on NPR about how the music industry is in worse shape than it ever has been with actual physical data. Lots of people prefer physical media? No SOME people do, and that number is constantly shrinking the more widespread broadband internet becomes.
Comparing physical media in the game and music industry are really apples and oranges. Digital games on consoles take up tons of space, and in most cases don't offer the full library of games. They also aren't priced competitively with their physical counterparts (its significantly cheaper to buy a used game from GS then buy it on xbox live or psn). But, all you have to do is take one look at ANY local retailer's pc game section to get a good understanding of digital vs physical. Digital games thrive on the PC whereas at retail they really don't see much business. This is because digital actually competes with physical prices on PC because they aren't worried about pissing retail partners off like the console makers are.
But, just because you feel the need to compulsively hoard media, doesn't mean everyone else can't rightfully say the music industry is in the toilet because it offers shit value for the content. I never said cds shouldn't exist, I simply made a joke about it, much in the way you would joke at some one driving a horse and buggy down a road. CDs are an antiquated medium, and don't offer a significant value over owning digital versions (unlike vinyl which has a a debateably better sound).
My final point is going out on a limb, but I sincerely doubt you have the $10,000 audio system/high end headphones, or the discriminating ears to tell the difference between a cd, and an mp3 recorded at 320kbps. I'm sure you'll swear up and down you can tell the difference, but I've sat in a room with people with a fairly nice audio system, and no one could tell the difference. But hey, have fun paying 10 grand for an audio system and 200 dollars on some lossless cds of fucking NES music....
@youngreezy (probably sic, should be young greasy, I know how my name is spelled thanks)If lots of people still buy compact discs, then explain why music sales year over year see declines? See heres the thing, the music industry is in the shitter, and its not just physical media, but digital as well (although significantly stronger downturn in physical sales). Need proof?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/01/06/132694660/2010-was-a-very-bad-year-for-trying-to-sell-music
Heres an article on NPR about how the music industry is in worse shape than it ever has been with actual physical data. Lots of people prefer physical media? No SOME people do, and that number is constantly shrinking the more widespread broadband internet becomes.
Comparing physical media in the game and music industry are really apples and oranges. Digital games on consoles take up tons of space, and in most cases don't offer the full library of games. They also aren't priced competitively with their physical counterparts (its significantly cheaper to buy a used game from GS then buy it on xbox live or psn). But, all you have to do is take one look at ANY local retailer's pc game section to get a good understanding of digital vs physical. Digital games thrive on the PC whereas at retail they really don't see much business. This is because digital actually competes with physical prices on PC because they aren't worried about pissing retail partners off like the console makers are.
But, just because you feel the need to compulsively hoard media, doesn't mean everyone else can't rightfully say the music industry is in the toilet because it offers shit value for the content. I never said cds shouldn't exist, I simply made a joke about it, much in the way you would joke at some one driving a horse and buggy down a road. CDs are an antiquated medium, and don't offer a significant value over owning digital versions (unlike vinyl which has a a debateably better sound).
My final point is going out on a limb, but I sincerely doubt you have the $10,000 audio system/high end headphones, or the discriminating ears to tell the difference between a cd, and an mp3 recorded at 320kbps. I'm sure you'll swear up and down you can tell the difference, but I've sat in a room with people with a fairly nice audio system, and no one could tell the difference. But hey, have fun paying 10 grand for an audio system and 200 dollars on some lossless cds of fucking NES music....
@mattrod288
It always tickles me when someone's response to legal merchandise is, "I downloaded it already." Seems somewhat twisted.
It always tickles me when someone's response to legal merchandise is, "I downloaded it already." Seems somewhat twisted.
@jamesesdad
Only six of the games represented are from the NES. Also, CDs and by extension lossless audio are needed for proper music archival. It's not just about listening to the music, it's about having the music in a format that is of high enough quality for the sake of preservation.
If you don't like CDs, that's fine and dandy. But don't pretend like they don't have benefits over digital versions.
For a similar story, you should read about the emulation community's quest for perfect emulation of older games hardware. Surprisingly, today's computers are NOT robust enough to perfectly emulate SNES games even though today's tech is at such a high level. There is a quality that is lost when the game is not run on its native hardware. Whether or not its noticeable to most people doesn't mean that there won't come a time when it'll be impossible to experience a game the way it was originally experienced. The same holds true for music.
And of course, there's also the inherent collector's value, which can't be measured and can't be equaled by mere digital representations.
Only six of the games represented are from the NES. Also, CDs and by extension lossless audio are needed for proper music archival. It's not just about listening to the music, it's about having the music in a format that is of high enough quality for the sake of preservation.
If you don't like CDs, that's fine and dandy. But don't pretend like they don't have benefits over digital versions.
For a similar story, you should read about the emulation community's quest for perfect emulation of older games hardware. Surprisingly, today's computers are NOT robust enough to perfectly emulate SNES games even though today's tech is at such a high level. There is a quality that is lost when the game is not run on its native hardware. Whether or not its noticeable to most people doesn't mean that there won't come a time when it'll be impossible to experience a game the way it was originally experienced. The same holds true for music.
And of course, there's also the inherent collector's value, which can't be measured and can't be equaled by mere digital representations.
God I wish I had a little extra money to plunk down on this. Could they release this digitally, too? :(
@jamesesdad (sic)
Proper grammar is proper grammar, dude.
Postscript: My point was simply: to each his own; there is a market for these things.
Proper grammar is proper grammar, dude.
Postscript: My point was simply: to each his own; there is a market for these things.
@Tony Ponce
Well yes, but they have actual instrument players and vocalists to work with that sound better than chip tunes. As far as video game music goes, I'd rather listen to some Halo or Nitronic rush, and as far as music as a whole goes, I'd rather listen to Queen, The Beatles, or Edith Piaf than some screechy, merely catchy, chiptune Mega Man theme.
Well yes, but they have actual instrument players and vocalists to work with that sound better than chip tunes. As far as video game music goes, I'd rather listen to some Halo or Nitronic rush, and as far as music as a whole goes, I'd rather listen to Queen, The Beatles, or Edith Piaf than some screechy, merely catchy, chiptune Mega Man theme.
For me, the main deal breaker was the inclusion of the Sega Saturn Soundtrack for Mega Man 8, as I personally find that OST to be superior to the one used for Playstation release. It was mostly due to the instruments that we're used for the tracks, but I also find the melodies to be catchier & more tightly composed than the PS version.
Speaking of which, doesn't anyone else find it odd, that aside from Tenguman, Cutman, & Woodman's themes, the rest of the Sega Saturn OST is absent from an official release; Again?
I’m definitely giving them major props for including the Rockman Special CD tracks for this release. The Skull Man & Stone Man remixes are two of my favourites tracks from those albums. Here's Skull Man's theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2-6ceManw
Speaking of which, doesn't anyone else find it odd, that aside from Tenguman, Cutman, & Woodman's themes, the rest of the Sega Saturn OST is absent from an official release; Again?
I’m definitely giving them major props for including the Rockman Special CD tracks for this release. The Skull Man & Stone Man remixes are two of my favourites tracks from those albums. Here's Skull Man's theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2-6ceManw
@Nicholas Lamarra
I listen to other bands too. I also like to listen to game music. There's a balance, and I don't think you have to choose one over the other.
Plus, I disagree in that actual instruments would always be superior to chiptunes. There are cases where chiptunes just work better. And there are bands and artists out there who understand the power of chiptunes and have worked towards that style. Folks like Anamanguchi, Jake Kaufman, Danimal Cannon... they see that there is simplicity in chiptunes, yet there is a depth to them as well. Not everyone's cup of tea, sure, but there is value in what they do, otherwise they wouldn't do it.
Also, you missed the part where I mentioned that a healthy chunk of this collection's music is NOT from the NES. The PlayStation arrangements in particular take the original tunes and overhauls them with higher-quality instrument samples, if your main issue is with "screechy chiptunes."
But never mind that. Why would you even post in a retro videogame music article if only to express that you don't like retro videogame music? Seems counterintuitive.
I listen to other bands too. I also like to listen to game music. There's a balance, and I don't think you have to choose one over the other.
Plus, I disagree in that actual instruments would always be superior to chiptunes. There are cases where chiptunes just work better. And there are bands and artists out there who understand the power of chiptunes and have worked towards that style. Folks like Anamanguchi, Jake Kaufman, Danimal Cannon... they see that there is simplicity in chiptunes, yet there is a depth to them as well. Not everyone's cup of tea, sure, but there is value in what they do, otherwise they wouldn't do it.
Also, you missed the part where I mentioned that a healthy chunk of this collection's music is NOT from the NES. The PlayStation arrangements in particular take the original tunes and overhauls them with higher-quality instrument samples, if your main issue is with "screechy chiptunes."
But never mind that. Why would you even post in a retro videogame music article if only to express that you don't like retro videogame music? Seems counterintuitive.
@Bruce Watkinson
I'm loving how they still insist that there is a "Crush Man" from Mega Man 2 whose music sounds just like Guts Man's theme. Hmmmm.
I'm loving how they still insist that there is a "Crush Man" from Mega Man 2 whose music sounds just like Guts Man's theme. Hmmmm.
Eh.. Its worth it if your a collector I guess, specially if you don't have the soundtracks already.. But you do, and all your really getting is a can thats going to sit around collecting dust.
Theres a lot more, maybe better, things you can do with $185, so I'd hold off/not get it at all. And thats coming from a Mega Man fan who'd love to have this, and doesn't have any of the soundtracks.
Theres a lot more, maybe better, things you can do with $185, so I'd hold off/not get it at all. And thats coming from a Mega Man fan who'd love to have this, and doesn't have any of the soundtracks.
@youngreezy if you care so much about proper grammar why is your name spelled incorrectly? Don't try to act like a twat and tell me how to correctly spell MY screen name, I've been aware since 1996 the first time I incorrectly spelled this screen name. I knew that it wasn't the proper way to write it then, and I know now but thanks for pointing it out.
But good job completely sidestepping the conversation. Your first point was actually that several people still buy physical music, which I showed is clearly not the case. Your second point was more an assumption about my first post, and your third "point" was more of a dig at mp3 quality vs cd or vinyl. So no, I don't think your follow up accurately represents what your initial post was about.
@Tony
I totally forgot that it was regular consumers responsibility to "archive" music through the purchases of limited edition collectors cd sets that cost several hundreds of dollars. I buy and listen to music to enjoy it, not to feed into some hoarder/collector mentality that it needs to be archived in case every other copy of the cd in the world is destroyed or lost. Companies produce these things by the thousands, to act like it needs to be 'archived' by buying cds is fucking ridiculous.
I don't think I ever said cds don't have benefits over digital files. I just don't think its worth the exorbitant price differential, or convenience of being able to have thousands of digital files in my pocket.
And then we get to the 'collectors value'. Which we obviously can't put a price on. Sure it more likely then not will be worth more than what you paid for it some day, but that's nothing more than an assumption. To treat any collectors item like an investment is foolish and short sighted. If you enjoy it, and find value in it, fine, that's your business. I don't, I think 200 dollars for 10 cds is a fucking ripooff, but thats just how I feel about it, we don't have to agree to both be right.
But good job completely sidestepping the conversation. Your first point was actually that several people still buy physical music, which I showed is clearly not the case. Your second point was more an assumption about my first post, and your third "point" was more of a dig at mp3 quality vs cd or vinyl. So no, I don't think your follow up accurately represents what your initial post was about.
@Tony
I totally forgot that it was regular consumers responsibility to "archive" music through the purchases of limited edition collectors cd sets that cost several hundreds of dollars. I buy and listen to music to enjoy it, not to feed into some hoarder/collector mentality that it needs to be archived in case every other copy of the cd in the world is destroyed or lost. Companies produce these things by the thousands, to act like it needs to be 'archived' by buying cds is fucking ridiculous.
I don't think I ever said cds don't have benefits over digital files. I just don't think its worth the exorbitant price differential, or convenience of being able to have thousands of digital files in my pocket.
And then we get to the 'collectors value'. Which we obviously can't put a price on. Sure it more likely then not will be worth more than what you paid for it some day, but that's nothing more than an assumption. To treat any collectors item like an investment is foolish and short sighted. If you enjoy it, and find value in it, fine, that's your business. I don't, I think 200 dollars for 10 cds is a fucking ripooff, but thats just how I feel about it, we don't have to agree to both be right.
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