Update: The system is now rumored to be called Stream.
The rumors concerning a new HD console from Nintendo have ramped up to absurd proportions, to the point where it's getting difficult to keep track of everything.
Some of the rumors sound like total BS, while some are more sensible. Here's loads of them, so make your own mind up:
- Square Enix, Capcom, Sega, Konami, Activision, Rockstar/Take Two, Electronic Arts, Namco and Ubisoft have development kits, and all have at least one game in the works.
- Nintendo may not launch with any first party games, as it plans to really support third parties this time.
- It won't have "Wii" in its name.
- Third party support extends to hardware, with a better storage solution being developed.
- Better download service.
- The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword may launch at the same time as Project Cafe. This could lead to another Twilight Princess situation.
- Hideo Kojima has been mentioned in conjunction with the system.
- Retro is working on a title that "everybody wants." It's been suggested that it could be Eternal Darkness 2.
- A Resident Evil game is in the works (when isn't one in the works?)
- A StarFox title is being worked on.
- Grand Theft Auto V will be a Project Cafe title in addition to everything else.
- A mockup was discovered and posted to 4chan (see gallery).

Following this rumored leak IGN created this mock of what the system might look like:

Many of these latest rumors come from Gameolosophy, but similar or corroborative rumors have been popping up on other sites as well. A lot of the rumors make it sound almost too good, so don't get overexcited, but the sheer volumeof gossip seems to suggest that the system itself is a real thing, even if its features may not be quite so amazing as rumor would have you believe.
Guess we just need to wait and see!
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Surely that couldn't be true?
As for the system, I wanna say we'll see it at E3, but not in stores until 2012. It would be too difficult for them to compete with themselves at christmas, with the 3DS having just launched.
Also that mock up looks like a bag of smashed assholes. I hope that one doesn't come true.
The only one I think anyone can question is not launching with any first-party titles but it's totally possible. With the exception of Pilotwings Nintendo did their best to pull a similar move with the 3DS for the same reasons.
The Skyward Sword thing I totally saw coming and it's almost upsetting that a system with so much alleged power will be housing a Wii port as it's first Zelda title (I really want to see a Zelda game tailored for the Café) but it does mean I can play it with a traditional analog gamepad. And the touchscreen of course but that doesn't bother me much.
Star Fox being made makes sense. Nintendo is really tapping hard into bringing back franchises everyone wants. We have a new Kid Icarus for craps sake.
That said my guess for the Retro title is another Prime. Don't think it's another Eternal Darkness but, again, at this point looking back at the 3DS unveiling it could be anything.
GTA V I think almost has to be true, I wouldn't be surprised if they outsourced the online capabilities to make it more competitive with Sony and MS, not having Wii in the title is a little weird but nothing shocking, Hideo is kind of a god when it comes to pushing hardware so having him on as a consultant from a software standpoint makes sense (he also has so much experience with blu-ray).
I mean, yeah. Remember the 3DS announcement? A lot of that pre-E3 sounded too good to he true and lo and behold it was all true.
Call me naive but I have faith in all of these rumors. Except 4Chan. Because 4Chan.
Most importantly: Blu Ray?
Oh dear god, please let this be true.
I dunno...personally I think I just want Skyward Sword to be Wii-exclusive, and then a brand new title build from the ground-up for the new console, that can take advantage of all these supposed superpowers it'll have.
No, they still make consistent profits, every year. When will they start launching overpriced consoles that still lose them money for the first several years? The 3DS is a bit overpriced, but still profitable, indicating that while they are taking lessons from how "the industry has been operating for the past decade", they have much to learn. Maybe the next version of the 3DS will lose the ability to play 3DS games, ala PSP Go.
Am I the only one bored by these rumors? Until there is something "real" can we be spared the daily wii successor rumors on the front page? This is starting to get as bad as the daily "3DS is a failure/overwhelming success" stories several weeks ago.
That's all I want, and all I needed to hear.
I did laugh at the idea that "a better storage solution" is being developed. Probably a good idea, that.
And honestly, I'd be fine with Skyward Sword being in HD, but doesn't that mean they WOULD be doing at least one first-party launch title?
Re ED2: PLEASE.
But I'm really stoked to think that Retro will be developing a new Eternal Darkness. After seeing what they've done with Metroid and Donkey Kong, I am of the opinion that they should immediately be given control of all of Nintendo's franchises.
Depending on who you ask it's generally considered that the GameCube version of Twilight Princess is the better version. So I don't know where you get the idea thatthe Wii version of Skyward Sword will be inferior unless you really need your Wii visuals upscaled that bad.
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So I feel like nintendo owes me somthing, like the new system cause the wii was not teribly great it had its moments but right now they are all at lost to rumors of this new system and I felt that I bought the sega saturn and now sega saying oh sorry that last system was a mistake we are putting out a better one that you will have to buy again sorry!
So you could see how I am sort of pissed off at nintendo for putting me through this, I hope the new system is cheep since it is running basically off of the 360 hardware it better cost $200 or less cause I do not have the money to pay more than that again for a new nintendo system.
I don't think anyone wants or cares about a sequel to Eternal Darkness. It was a fun experiment, but not a very memorable game. It wasn't terribly scary, either. Retro's probably working on another Metroid game given fans really like their take on Metroid better.
Haha, great late April Fools
None of this Project Cafe rumours make sense to me, why don't improve on what worked for the Wii? This new machine is going to cost like a gazillion bucks when it launches.
I have always felt that the absence of Starfox on Wii is the systems biggest flaw.
The thing hasn't even been formally revealed, by Nintendo yet and you're already debating, whether its a day-one purchase, or not. How about waiting until E3, to see it for yourself, first?
Eternal Darkness was a cool game, with some nice ideas but a bit of a shoddy execution. I would really like to see a sequel.
Uh, sorry to burst your bubble, but PLENTY of people would care about an Eternal Darkness sequel, myself included. In fact, just read the comments, and I'm definitely not alone. Just cause you don't want one doesn't mean everyone else doesn't.
Anyway, this all sounds way too good to be true. Hell, I'd still be happy even if only half of these rumors were true. A new StarFox would especially make my day, not to mention what Retro and Hideo Kojima could possibly be working on.
Thank you for that... this officially looks believable AND awesome.
I'm really excited for E3 this year
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