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This game looks fun. Good ol ragequit-keyboard smash-oh hey I'm playing again fun.
Can't wait to try it out
Can't wait to try it out
It may seem stupid of me but team meat seem to use the same scrawly notebook type font or is it just me??
Zelda/Roguelike? Brilliant. Permadeath? Sold!*
* I'm waiting patiently to see if this is going have a "bash Christians" angle, or a "religious zealot" angle only. It's obviously already not for the squeamish but I'm not necessarily precluded from buying it yet. Here's hoping McMillen doesn't return to his roots completely...
* I'm waiting patiently to see if this is going have a "bash Christians" angle, or a "religious zealot" angle only. It's obviously already not for the squeamish but I'm not necessarily precluded from buying it yet. Here's hoping McMillen doesn't return to his roots completely...
Hmm, permadeath is the most interesting part of this to me so far. I like games, particularly RPGs, that aren't afraid to punish you.
I'm not sure how I feel about the double sticked shooter control scheme, but other than that, this game was completely made for me.
It's just too bad the visual style and themes of Mcmillen's don't appeal to me at all, the way the gameplay tends to.
This feels a lot less like how to take Zelda and making it your own, and a lot more like trying the hard-sell of taking a completely screwed up, dark, and almost -I dare say- appalling theme and turning it into a game people are really going to want to play.
And overall I hope it works for them. They're great game makers and do pretty awesome things with both style and gameplay, and they deserve to have all the success in the world. I would just really hate to see the themes they choose to use in this one, cloud over how great the game would be for more conservative players
And overall I hope it works for them. They're great game makers and do pretty awesome things with both style and gameplay, and they deserve to have all the success in the world. I would just really hate to see the themes they choose to use in this one, cloud over how great the game would be for more conservative players
Hey, what about Hitlers must die? I mean, a zelda clone from team meat makes me extremely exited but I thought that they were working on Hitlers must die.
Sounds really good, but the characters don't seem to blend too well with the backgrounds. It just doesn't seem right to have characters with a thick black outline on pastel backgrounds.
I also noticed the boss health bar looks almost identical to the boss health bar in Alien Hominid.
I wonder if that was intentional, or a coincidence
I also noticed the boss health bar looks almost identical to the boss health bar in Alien Hominid.
I wonder if that was intentional, or a coincidence
Holy awesome. I was just bitching about how super meat boy looks great but I don't like platformers, and then they announce a game where every element is something I do* like. Well played, mcmillen. Well played.
Cryotek said:Perma-death? Fuck. I was really looking forward to this game, but that just is not fun to me. Way to fuck up your game dipshits.
You were looking forward to a roguelike ("this game"), but you are calling the developer a dipshit for retaining one of the defining factors of a roguelike? Were you just looking forward to the graphics and the music or something? Sort yourself out.
You were looking forward to a roguelike ("this game"), but you are calling the developer a dipshit for retaining one of the defining factors of a roguelike? Were you just looking forward to the graphics and the music or something? Sort yourself out.
The Zelda franchise deserves to be riped-off. They served us the same games for 25 years: they're ripping off themselves.
This game sounds great, I will be getting it for sure. I have recently been playing dungeons of dredmore (which is also a roguelike game with (optional) permadeath) and before that game was never a fan of permadeath. After having played it with and without permadeath, I can say having it really adds a lot to the experience - It makes it somehow more fun. Also dieing lets you try new skill sets and due to the procedurally generated levels etc its never the same game twice.
To those of you who haven't played a roguelike with permadeath DoD is a great place to start and it costs only 6$ on steam. Try it you might like it!
To those of you who haven't played a roguelike with permadeath DoD is a great place to start and it costs only 6$ on steam. Try it you might like it!
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BAM! My thoughts exactly. Why put permadeath in a roguelike? I mean Christ, might as well put guns in a first person shooter, or cars in a racing game. Such a stupid design decision holding a good looking game back.
BAM! My thoughts exactly. Why put permadeath in a roguelike? I mean Christ, might as well put guns in a first person shooter, or cars in a racing game. Such a stupid design decision holding a good looking game back.
It would seem that Edmund is maybe (keyword: MAYBE) purposefully causing issues with his games.. which he did with Super Meat Boy where he purposely posted on PETA's website to cause a stir about SMB.. and now perhaps he is focusing on religious peeps with Isaac. and especially given that someone commented about the PETA incident and said "RefIex Dec 2 2010, 8:09 PM Meat boy's developers should stir up the right-wing, religious nutjobs next." it seems very likely this is part of Edmund's design scheme.. (which i think that kid deserves some cash Edmund... since it would seem like you maybe read and used his idea...but all of this is hard to know without more details about Isaac & having not played it yet..)
i know i am jumping to a lot of conclusions here.. i just hope i can continue to respect Edmund as a game designer since i have been a big fan before SMB.. and if i am right and this is what is going on with The Binding Of Isaac.. well.... i wont be purchasing anymore of Edmunds games.. not because of the possible religious stuff in the game.. but just because of the way he may be deciding to make his games basically as really lame attempts at approaching social issues in such a way that is "edgy" but its not edgy its just lazy. and is possibly just a scheme to get press to sell his game..ugh,, its like marilyn manson..luckily people with this type of "shock&controversial" scheme lose popularity rather quickly and fade away..
I mean its not a terrible idea to market or draw attention to your game by using social issues.. and its not a terrible way to make a game either that focuses on a specific social issue..actually its a good idea.. so i give Edmund credit for trying..(if that is really what he is attempting to do) but.... if you use a social issue in your game it shouldn't be used as a cheap tool to sell a game or get press.. or to be "edgy" either.. i just hope he will be tasteful about how he approaches the game and not like an immature kid in middle school.. since it would be cheap, distasteful and the most uncreative lazy brained thing i have ever heard of..
I just hope he paid attention to jonathan blow's design reboot lecture...
All i have to say is Edmund better have made The Binding Of Isaac in an intelligent way.. i hope this game does not turn out to be what people on here seem to think it will be.. as far as religious fanaticism is concerned...and i hope the game will not be pro-atheist since that would be atheist fanaticism and would just be hypocritical.. it just seems like it could easily be a cheap stunt to get attention, press & purchases.. which is pretty low and tasteless.. its not edgy its not creative.. its just.. lame.. and it would actually be worse than most other marketing schemes.. and i really would like to not think less of Edmund since I always thought he was cool and intelligent.. I will wait to play the Zelda version of the book/movie Carrie and really hope i am wrong about all i have said...
i know i am jumping to a lot of conclusions here.. i just hope i can continue to respect Edmund as a game designer since i have been a big fan before SMB.. and if i am right and this is what is going on with The Binding Of Isaac.. well.... i wont be purchasing anymore of Edmunds games.. not because of the possible religious stuff in the game.. but just because of the way he may be deciding to make his games basically as really lame attempts at approaching social issues in such a way that is "edgy" but its not edgy its just lazy. and is possibly just a scheme to get press to sell his game..ugh,, its like marilyn manson..luckily people with this type of "shock&controversial" scheme lose popularity rather quickly and fade away..
I mean its not a terrible idea to market or draw attention to your game by using social issues.. and its not a terrible way to make a game either that focuses on a specific social issue..actually its a good idea.. so i give Edmund credit for trying..(if that is really what he is attempting to do) but.... if you use a social issue in your game it shouldn't be used as a cheap tool to sell a game or get press.. or to be "edgy" either.. i just hope he will be tasteful about how he approaches the game and not like an immature kid in middle school.. since it would be cheap, distasteful and the most uncreative lazy brained thing i have ever heard of..
I just hope he paid attention to jonathan blow's design reboot lecture...
All i have to say is Edmund better have made The Binding Of Isaac in an intelligent way.. i hope this game does not turn out to be what people on here seem to think it will be.. as far as religious fanaticism is concerned...and i hope the game will not be pro-atheist since that would be atheist fanaticism and would just be hypocritical.. it just seems like it could easily be a cheap stunt to get attention, press & purchases.. which is pretty low and tasteless.. its not edgy its not creative.. its just.. lame.. and it would actually be worse than most other marketing schemes.. and i really would like to not think less of Edmund since I always thought he was cool and intelligent.. I will wait to play the Zelda version of the book/movie Carrie and really hope i am wrong about all i have said...
I think I realized something about this game; maybe I’m wrong (probably), since we don’t know a lot about the game, but I think it makes a good case based on what was revealed so far…
The game is an escapist ego trip for Isaac and it’s only happening in his head or in a nightmare.
Think about it; not only is the goal of the game for Isaac to escape a basement dungeon filled with twisted versions of himself in order to kill his Christian mom with his tears, but all 4 classes are versions of Isaac and he gains anti-Christian/satanic tools as powerups.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the ending is him waking up and his mom taking him to church.
The game is an escapist ego trip for Isaac and it’s only happening in his head or in a nightmare.
Think about it; not only is the goal of the game for Isaac to escape a basement dungeon filled with twisted versions of himself in order to kill his Christian mom with his tears, but all 4 classes are versions of Isaac and he gains anti-Christian/satanic tools as powerups.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the ending is him waking up and his mom taking him to church.
Looking forward to this so much. I played my first roguelike when Dungeons of Dredmor came out and I've been loving that game.
@El Conrado
Would certainly make all the inevitably controversy look pretty silly when it turns out to be a dream sequence. The kid just hates going to church and his mom's shitty sandwiches!
Would certainly make all the inevitably controversy look pretty silly when it turns out to be a dream sequence. The kid just hates going to church and his mom's shitty sandwiches!
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