Haha no i've been here for years! I have no problem with people sharing their experiences and opinions on this site, by all means go for it. I just found the way this piece was presented to be abrasive. If it moved you that's great! I'm happy that it did! It just rubbed me the completely opposite way.
The part that finally got me in Mass Effect 3 was Garrus saying he'd buy the next round after the battle. Just realizing that it really was the end, and they were all going to die..
But of course this is going to turn into a Mass Effect hate-a-thon. You're focusing on the wrong on the wrong thing people. This isn't an article about Mass Effect. Ir really REALLY isn't.
Why does every comment section have to be so damned disappointing.
You could have diddled every other woman in the galaxy between Mass Effect 1 and 3... and Liara/Ashley would just shrug it off like a choice of beverage with dinner... and you want to describe BioWare's handling of the ME3 relationships as 'artistic'? Honestly?
I've seen Cinemax porn with more emotional subtext.
I got the call that my dad died while I was playing Iron Man. Was right on the last boss too. Remember Jeff Bridge's character? He was essentially a father figure to Tony. A ruthless, abusive, and evil father figure but a father figure nonetheless. He even looked like my dad, with his bald head and his beard.
Going even further back, I remember the last time my dad saw his dad. It was a brutal, ugly screaming match. And I can't blame Dad for having been angry because Grandpa was even worse than him. Quite frankly, my father probably should have killed that man when he was young enough to get away with it. Grandpa was so violent towards his wife and son. I don't mean a little slap here and there. Way worse than that. It wasn't hard to see how the cycle continued, with a son who carried as much resentment as Dad did.
And the only part I remember about my night with this game is putting the phone down and looking at the screen for a minute. I wondered if I wanted to keep going because seriously, who does that? Who goes right back to their video game after getting that kind of news?
Thing was, it would have bothered me more to not finish the thing. I looked at this comic book character, fighting a guy he cared about who had lied to him and tried to break him, and something snapped into focus. It was as if I didn't beat the son of a bitch right then, he would haunt me for the rest of my life.
So yeah. That's a thing that happened. I vaguely recall Robert Downey Jr. saying something clever at the end but I really couldn't tell you what it was. My mind had gone elsewhere by then, I had already mentally started making arrangements and whatnot. All I know is that's the one that struck a chord with me.
I know that's probably impossible. I just really wish I could rewind my evening to a point where I didn't feel incredibly depressed as a result of this article.
Damn.
Plus the whole changing Ashley into a James bond girl and the over the top suicides it wasn't just disappointing it was melodramatic.
Plus the whole changing Ashley into a James bond girl and the over the top suicides it wasn't just disappointing it was melodramatic.
Which, yeah, in retrospect that does seem kind of silly. But man, I really thought they were going to pull it off for a minute there. At least the Buzz Aldrin part was good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tXp6ejsNF0&list=PLFF3AF48645DB43B6&index=89&feature=plpp_video
There were a handful of really strong moments like the conversation you mention in the article scattered throughout ME3.
Like the human woman trying to get her Asari child passage to some Asari relatives because her racist family will have nothing to do with her interspecies offspring.
Or the Asari commando who did terrible things to survive a Reaper attack on a human colony.
For all of the faults in the greater narrative, there were a lot of little things in ME3 that Bioware did right, I think.
I don't know, maybe it's just that I can relate but.. it made me FEEL.
I can! I'll never be able to understand why it's ok for the people you love to have social lives with friends, but not love lives with lovers. You can say that you drifted apart, but the drifting is a symptom of the secrecy necessary in a monogamous relationship once you've developed romantic feelings for another person. If she had been able to be honest with you about her feelings for your boss, you might still be together today. Hell, if she had told you, and you were encouraging & supportive, that might have created a deeper bond between the two of you. The thing with your boss might have just been a fling that fizzled out, but you'd still be together. I know I'm "just a crazy weirdo" for thinking that the concept of monogamy is busted, but I'll say this... I'm not a lonely crazy weirdo.
Anyway, this was very well written, and the conversations in the hub areas were my favorite parts of the game. I wanted to take my fem-Shep over to that guy (guys' night out guy) at the bar and tell him what for!
I know the temptation is to go on a rant about the ending. But honestly, I just disagree with this article BECAUSE I think the relationships were poorly handled in Mass Effect. Let's get to the obvious. The romance relationships in this game sucked - if you didn't pick Liara (the forced canon romance that the publishers really wanted all along). She was the only gratifying romance in 3, and actually got proper time and scenes to flesh out the romance. The others? Not so much. They all got the shaft. As someone that didn't romance Liara, I was kind of in shock at how little thought was put into the other romance options (I later looked online for the other ones). If you picked Miranda or Kelley Chambers, god have mercy on your soul. I feel sorry for you.
But of course, this game isn't entirely about romance. And in that sense, I agree they handled the relationships like Wrex and Ashley fairly well (although Ashley was godamned annoying in this game). But what about Jacob? What about your crew from the last game? I feel like Mass Effect 3 really punished some players for getting invested in certain paths in the game. Just my 2 cents.
WRONG
Miranda actually had a great romance thread in ME3, she jst isn't in your party, its a long distance relationship. Hell, you get a special scene if she dies in romance. Tali and Garrus romances are well done, hell, Tali's romance factor's into the Rannoch section of the story in multiple parts. And sometimes the LI goes for another woman like Jacob...its just the way it goes. You do not knw the consquences sometimes.
The ONLY underdeveloped romance in ME3 is Jack.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I found the relationships to be very underwhelming come the third game.
It still amazes me how capable video games are of delivering stuff like this, and yet how rare it seems to be. I think one of Mass Effect 3's strengths, the greatest in fact, was in the people on the Citadel. For me, it was the young girl in the Hangar, I believe, where all the refugees gathered. She was waiting for her parents, optimistically believing they were still alive and going to meet her, and a Turian that knew better acted as a guard and a friend. I found that to be the most touching part of the game, but only because I happened to hear enough of the conversation.
I wonder how many conversations I missed?
In any case, this was an excellent article. I am sorry that you had to go through such heartache yourself.
I agree that BioWare nailed those stagnant convo's but my reaction to the cheating one was of recognition and bemusment. I also(probably) take games too seriously but as far as relationships go I view them as transitional and with ever increasing divorce statistics backing me up, whenever someone mentions true love or "the one" I have to bite my lip to keep from laughing. I realise it's a fatalistic attitude to most but the realist in me couldn't shake that belief even if I wanted to. I have been in serious relationships and they were great in some ways but I look at that part of my life like a hobby I lost interest in.
Call me a lonely loser but I've seen FAR too many people more lonely IN relationships than I've ever felt in my 10+ yrs of being single.
The human condition is something no one can lay claim to having a complete understanding of and relationships inparticular (romantic or otherwise) are essentially the strongest driving force for most people and fatalistic or not I too hope more games can include and expand on SOME of the realism that BioWare managed to nail in Mass Effect because it's still a fascinating subject to me regardless of my detatchment to it.
Ps: My beliefs on relationships are not normal or realistic for most people so I don't judge others for needing what is core to all but a very small percentage of us. I don't endorse or recommend my choice to others either. I'm just stating how I felt different about it to Sophie.
@Sophie, I really loved your article. I agree with some of the people that posted before that Dtoid is a space where people come to hear from other gamers experience, not just ro read news. Your article sure made me realize of how many times we are rushing through a game and we donīt pause to see and hear all that was developed as a stage for the story that is unfolding in our screen.
Thanks for sharing your past experience, it is never easy to be open to a wide audience about personal life details and you did it with great dignity and solid writing. Please keep them coming.
You've also reminded me of the ME2 conversation at the Eternity bar, between the quarian who's complaining about her love life and the BFF turian who's so obviously trying to manipulate his way into being "more than a friend" and so clearly failing on every level - that was some good stuff.
Honestly, sometimes the background chatter is better written than the main stuff.

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