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"Although Nintendo hasn't come out and said it, it's likely that the GamePad uses a resistive touchscreen versus a capacitive one, and that is a bold move in this day and age."
Its not "bold", its stupid.
Its not "bold", its stupid.
hasn't they already said, that it IS resistive and (obviously) doesn't support multitouch? i thought it was official
Also I think a game system released for sub-$300 would pull in quite a few consumers off the bat, I am inclined to agree that it may not be worth it. Nice article.
Can we PLEASE ignore these "Nintendo is DOOOOOMED" articles at least until that damn thing is released ? Thank You
The biggest problem with Wii U is that it isn't a next gen console. It's a current gen console that is 7 years late to the party. I always buy new consoles, but this one I may have to wait for. It would be a crime to charge $400 for a machine that hardly surpasses the two other game machines I paid less for, many years ago. 3rd party support is nice....but my other consoles can already play them because they always could.
I've pretty much said everything you've said before and got called a troll because of it. Good luck on your reception.
Although maybe I'm just an ass when it comes to wording, or my username.
Although maybe I'm just an ass when it comes to wording, or my username.
A little rambly and convoluted, but when you pull out the important points, like comparing the console market the Wii stepped into as opposed to the one the WiiU will be you can understand what he's getting at.
@orniletter
i agree the videogame press' tendency to view everything nintendo does extremely pessimistically. but, i also pretty much agree with everything pointed out in this article.
people are DUMB, plain and simple, and most wont understand that the wii u is actually a new console. it's going to bite nintendo in the ass more than anything else. they think they're building on the systems brand recognition, but it's probably not going to play out that way.
on the other hand, the tablet craze is in full force, so the idea of getting a new console that come with a tablet-y thing might work to their advantage. guess we just have to wait and see. but as a big game nerd who owns a wii/360/ps3/3ds/vita/gaming pc, i'm not personally excited about the wii u yet. MAYBE if its $200 i'll pick it up at launch, otherwise i can wait... until nintendo releases a game i cant resist (a 3d mario or metroid prime, basically).
i agree the videogame press' tendency to view everything nintendo does extremely pessimistically. but, i also pretty much agree with everything pointed out in this article.
people are DUMB, plain and simple, and most wont understand that the wii u is actually a new console. it's going to bite nintendo in the ass more than anything else. they think they're building on the systems brand recognition, but it's probably not going to play out that way.
on the other hand, the tablet craze is in full force, so the idea of getting a new console that come with a tablet-y thing might work to their advantage. guess we just have to wait and see. but as a big game nerd who owns a wii/360/ps3/3ds/vita/gaming pc, i'm not personally excited about the wii u yet. MAYBE if its $200 i'll pick it up at launch, otherwise i can wait... until nintendo releases a game i cant resist (a 3d mario or metroid prime, basically).
Well at least about the name "Wii U"....
The 3DS has done pretty freaking well, eh? And all that needed was a Zelda and a Mario title.
The 3DS has done pretty freaking well, eh? And all that needed was a Zelda and a Mario title.
I've owned every Nintendo console to come out and this is the first time I'm actively rooting for them to fail in order to learn some hard lessons. In all honesty, I wouldn't mind if they went the way of Sega and became a software-only company. Antiquated thinking has finally caught up to them, as far as I'm concerned.
I will laugh the first time someone tries to purchase a Wii U tablet for their Wii system. It will happen, believe me.
Anyway, I *honestly* cannot see how at $250 would still be too much for the Wii U. I hope and sacrifice people that it will be $250. Even if it is just slightly above the capabilities of the PS3 and 360, I will still be down for some delicious quirky titles that only seem to generate on Ninty's consoles anymore.
The part that will hurt is that it will probably be more like $300+. I have a hard time seeing how this thing will run sub-$300 without taking serious losses. Not saying it cannot happen, but it is just unlikely. I think the best thing to do is just wait to see more first and third party games being announced and wait for the official details surrounding the console. We can of course chime in our opinion on what we feel should be the case, but we have to keep in perspective that it probably will not affect the outcome.
Anyway, I *honestly* cannot see how at $250 would still be too much for the Wii U. I hope and sacrifice people that it will be $250. Even if it is just slightly above the capabilities of the PS3 and 360, I will still be down for some delicious quirky titles that only seem to generate on Ninty's consoles anymore.
The part that will hurt is that it will probably be more like $300+. I have a hard time seeing how this thing will run sub-$300 without taking serious losses. Not saying it cannot happen, but it is just unlikely. I think the best thing to do is just wait to see more first and third party games being announced and wait for the official details surrounding the console. We can of course chime in our opinion on what we feel should be the case, but we have to keep in perspective that it probably will not affect the outcome.
I've given up on the Wii U, at least for now. All it's done is convince me that I need to try Wii emulators on PC for my HD Nintendo fix. Besides, a Wii game on PC will probably look better than a Wii U game anyway. People are even making HD texture packs now.
Playstation vs Playstation 2, same problem. I worked in TRU when the PS2 was released, people were pissed the PS1 couldn't play PS2 games. Stupid is stupid.
Is having a little zoom bar on the side that big of a deal over multitouch? Come on now.
3-5 hours of battery life is what those tablets would get too if they were using the smartglass app and constantly transfaring data.
The same thing happens with every iteration of hardware whether it be gaming console, apple product, whatever. People buy the older cheaper stuff and eventually move onto the newer better stuff when they're ready.
Selling consoles like cellphones? Good point, and will be a strong case for msoft next gen.
Realistically though, both consoles are still 300 bucks, so 400 isn't that unreasonable for an at least equally powerful device that comes with its own screen. Nintendo only has to maintain/not lose too much market share, remember they're not where they were on the gamecube->wii transition.
Is having a little zoom bar on the side that big of a deal over multitouch? Come on now.
3-5 hours of battery life is what those tablets would get too if they were using the smartglass app and constantly transfaring data.
The same thing happens with every iteration of hardware whether it be gaming console, apple product, whatever. People buy the older cheaper stuff and eventually move onto the newer better stuff when they're ready.
Selling consoles like cellphones? Good point, and will be a strong case for msoft next gen.
Realistically though, both consoles are still 300 bucks, so 400 isn't that unreasonable for an at least equally powerful device that comes with its own screen. Nintendo only has to maintain/not lose too much market share, remember they're not where they were on the gamecube->wii transition.
Nintendo tried this before, to some extent, with GC-GBA link. It was a glorified map system in Wind Waker and a strange "addition" to Four Swords Adventures. I think it also could unlock a skin or something in Metroid Prime. That was it for me.
Personally, I don't think it's an idea good enough to repeat, and my experience won't let me be something other than skeptic about the potential for gaming.
Thing is, the average Joe will, again, embrace it, and especially at 250. The big fans will buy it at 400, no questions asked. In conclusion, everyone will have one, and people will complain. Again.
Personally, I don't think it's an idea good enough to repeat, and my experience won't let me be something other than skeptic about the potential for gaming.
Thing is, the average Joe will, again, embrace it, and especially at 250. The big fans will buy it at 400, no questions asked. In conclusion, everyone will have one, and people will complain. Again.
I own a Wii but only because the GF wanted one and we snagged it at the $250 price point, if the WiiU can release at the $250 price point I will tip my hat at Nintendo but I see $299 being more realistic and that will hurt sales. Parents rushed out to buy their kids this $250 active system but the WiiU is not as active and will probably cost more
I won't be rushing out to buy one as, in my eyes, I don't really see the WiiU as being "Next Gen" material, I see the WiiU as being an updated Wii with an added feature.
I won't be rushing out to buy one as, in my eyes, I don't really see the WiiU as being "Next Gen" material, I see the WiiU as being an updated Wii with an added feature.
Guys, that's a great first comment. Nothing offensive enough that it warrants triggering the white knight instincts of certain people, especially not on the internet.
Aaaanyway. You can't compare a tablet "computer" to the Wii U's pad. Sure, they have multitouch, but that's because web browsing without it would be terrible. Wii U games will map specific functions to the pad's physical buttons. It doesn't need to be as versatile as a smartphone, because the performable tasks will be predetermined, either on a physical button or whatever on the touch screen.
At $250, the Wii U would be perfectly priced considering all those nitpicks as well as inflation. To me, it just sounds like the author of this article is poor or tight on money. First party titles being popular enough that their sale price when used stays high really changes nothing to the price the system should be.
Aaaanyway. You can't compare a tablet "computer" to the Wii U's pad. Sure, they have multitouch, but that's because web browsing without it would be terrible. Wii U games will map specific functions to the pad's physical buttons. It doesn't need to be as versatile as a smartphone, because the performable tasks will be predetermined, either on a physical button or whatever on the touch screen.
At $250, the Wii U would be perfectly priced considering all those nitpicks as well as inflation. To me, it just sounds like the author of this article is poor or tight on money. First party titles being popular enough that their sale price when used stays high really changes nothing to the price the system should be.
Sometimes I think about the Wii U, and I start to worry a little about the possibility of it failing, too.
But then I remember: it's Nintendo. It has Mario and Zelda and party games and a cool tablet controller. The console will sell like hotcakes.
But then I remember: it's Nintendo. It has Mario and Zelda and party games and a cool tablet controller. The console will sell like hotcakes.
Its funny iwata blew your smart glass stuff out of the water.....
And power and graphics are hardly relevant when it comes to sales or great games
look at the ds or ps2
is that all?
250, at that price, the thing will sell out
And power and graphics are hardly relevant when it comes to sales or great games
look at the ds or ps2
is that all?
250, at that price, the thing will sell out
250 will be fine but I very much doubt it will cost that.
Honestly if they go for 300 or more they are going to have a repeat of the 3ds on their hands.
Honestly if they go for 300 or more they are going to have a repeat of the 3ds on their hands.
I see this multi-touch vs single-touch argument raised often, and there's a few things people frequently misunderstand.
1. You can use your finger on a single touch screen perfectly fine. I've been doing this for years on DS and now on 3DS, I've had no issues with using my finger. The stylus is there if you more precision. Even in various Nintendo Wii U adverts we've seen a majority of them using their fingers over the stylus
http://s.wiiugo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Black-Wii-U-Controller-600x333.png
2. Because nearly all phones use multitouch it renders single touch obsolete. Yes for phones multiouch is miles better, screen are more resistance to scratches and the pinch zoom makes navigation easier. However that doesn't mean single touch is bad it simply means it's better for phones.
Now here is why I think Single touch is better
1. Multiouch is mostly unnecessary for games, so it's cheaper to not include something that is mostly unneccsary. To be fair a few games benefit from multi touch like world of goo, or music making programs, and the pinch zoom like in Rayman Origins is a nice addition, but for the most part it doesn't matter. A Wii U controller has buttons so multi-ouch isn't entirely vital, like in many phone games where you have onscreen buttons.
2 . Single touch is actually more precise. This is my biggest reason for preferring single touch. After using various multi-touch phones and tablet I've found single touch to be more accurate, now I know that's just my opinion so I'll link to a source as too why single touch is more precise. First would be the obvious use of a stylus, but even when using my finger on a single-touch screen it felt more precise. The downside of Resistive screens though are that they will get messed up so you need a screen protector. Mutlitouch has many advantages over single touch, however single-touch is more precise and precision is very important in games.
http://www.newhavendisplay.com/app_notes/TPcompare.pdf
1. You can use your finger on a single touch screen perfectly fine. I've been doing this for years on DS and now on 3DS, I've had no issues with using my finger. The stylus is there if you more precision. Even in various Nintendo Wii U adverts we've seen a majority of them using their fingers over the stylus
http://s.wiiugo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Black-Wii-U-Controller-600x333.png
2. Because nearly all phones use multitouch it renders single touch obsolete. Yes for phones multiouch is miles better, screen are more resistance to scratches and the pinch zoom makes navigation easier. However that doesn't mean single touch is bad it simply means it's better for phones.
Now here is why I think Single touch is better
1. Multiouch is mostly unnecessary for games, so it's cheaper to not include something that is mostly unneccsary. To be fair a few games benefit from multi touch like world of goo, or music making programs, and the pinch zoom like in Rayman Origins is a nice addition, but for the most part it doesn't matter. A Wii U controller has buttons so multi-ouch isn't entirely vital, like in many phone games where you have onscreen buttons.
2 . Single touch is actually more precise. This is my biggest reason for preferring single touch. After using various multi-touch phones and tablet I've found single touch to be more accurate, now I know that's just my opinion so I'll link to a source as too why single touch is more precise. First would be the obvious use of a stylus, but even when using my finger on a single-touch screen it felt more precise. The downside of Resistive screens though are that they will get messed up so you need a screen protector. Mutlitouch has many advantages over single touch, however single-touch is more precise and precision is very important in games.
http://www.newhavendisplay.com/app_notes/TPcompare.pdf
I donīt say anything bad about the writer of this article or the article itself, it is well written and touches the problems the Wii U will face, but i have to disagree with some points though.
1. People will confuse Wii with Wii U similar to 3Ds-DS:
I agree, but knowing Nintendo and knowing how they marketed the hell out of the original Wii back in 06 and 07 I donīt think that people will forever confuse those systems (see 3Ds, which does pretty well now)
2.Multitouch as an issue:
I donīt think thats really an issue because everything that can be done on multitouch is replaceable on the gamepad including buttons etc. But rather than making the controller even more expensive, they can save money on it
3 Smartglass/Vita
Smartglass will be able to replace some of the features of the Game pad like displaying a map, BUT it is a complete different device, you have your 360-Controller in your hands and the Tablet on your lab.
The Vita will probably come very close to the Game Pad but we dont know if its going to work well. I want to emphasize the point that the Wii U was specifically built to stream games on the Pad, the Ps3 not. I could be proven wrong but I simply think that from a logical standpoint it must work better on Wii U.
Another point is that not every Ps3 owner will have a Vita in contrast to every Wii U owner, who will have a Game Pad.
4 POWRRR:
The time of 599-consoles is over, Sony lost billions this gen with an attempt to be at the bleeding edge of technologie: aconsole which costed 800 bucks to build and which was sold for 600 hundred. I know, I repeat what many others said, it is unlikely (in my opinion)that consoles will be so expensive anytime soon with economy recessions and so on. The other consolemakers will try to be affordable like they already stated (There is one famous Sony quote, that the next leap in Graphix wont be as huge as this Gen, but I canīt find it -.-*). Taking a smaller budget into consideration, Microsoft and Sony wont be able to create consoles which will wipe the floor with Wii U and are so much more advanced than the Wii U. And if the competition wonīt release anything new for the next time, Nintendo will have to shine through exclusives (and I hope they will)
This is just my personal opinion on the subject, I donīt want to offend anyone, but I would like some responses.
And I have to excuse me for my bad spelling and Englisch in generall, it is obviously not my mother tongue. :)
1. People will confuse Wii with Wii U similar to 3Ds-DS:
I agree, but knowing Nintendo and knowing how they marketed the hell out of the original Wii back in 06 and 07 I donīt think that people will forever confuse those systems (see 3Ds, which does pretty well now)
2.Multitouch as an issue:
I donīt think thats really an issue because everything that can be done on multitouch is replaceable on the gamepad including buttons etc. But rather than making the controller even more expensive, they can save money on it
3 Smartglass/Vita
Smartglass will be able to replace some of the features of the Game pad like displaying a map, BUT it is a complete different device, you have your 360-Controller in your hands and the Tablet on your lab.
The Vita will probably come very close to the Game Pad but we dont know if its going to work well. I want to emphasize the point that the Wii U was specifically built to stream games on the Pad, the Ps3 not. I could be proven wrong but I simply think that from a logical standpoint it must work better on Wii U.
Another point is that not every Ps3 owner will have a Vita in contrast to every Wii U owner, who will have a Game Pad.
4 POWRRR:
The time of 599-consoles is over, Sony lost billions this gen with an attempt to be at the bleeding edge of technologie: aconsole which costed 800 bucks to build and which was sold for 600 hundred. I know, I repeat what many others said, it is unlikely (in my opinion)that consoles will be so expensive anytime soon with economy recessions and so on. The other consolemakers will try to be affordable like they already stated (There is one famous Sony quote, that the next leap in Graphix wont be as huge as this Gen, but I canīt find it -.-*). Taking a smaller budget into consideration, Microsoft and Sony wont be able to create consoles which will wipe the floor with Wii U and are so much more advanced than the Wii U. And if the competition wonīt release anything new for the next time, Nintendo will have to shine through exclusives (and I hope they will)
This is just my personal opinion on the subject, I donīt want to offend anyone, but I would like some responses.
And I have to excuse me for my bad spelling and Englisch in generall, it is obviously not my mother tongue. :)
Ive been banned before. You must be a commie liberal obama lover for wanting so much to shut down a other persons commentary because it makes you uncomfortable. Just call me a racist, and be done with it. Emulate your dear leaders that tell you everything is FINE with a big ol' smile.
If you can't see the humor in COBRA, then you're balls are probably still hairless and your opinion has little merit.
This article was awful, and full of weak points that amount to nothing. The same things were said before at the beginning of this generation. And who gives a shit if it doesnt sell as many as the wii. Everyone knows it will not. The gamecube was bashed by the haters, and that had some of the coolest games of all time, even though it sold way less units. I thought sales didnt matter to the other console fanboys?
This generation has no attention span, and when you combine that with the massive memory hole in their brain, you've got a dangerous combination, and the average commentary reflects the shallow nature of todays gamer, always looking to destroy anything that doesn't fit in their extremely narrow tunnel vision view.
Nintendo has ALWAYS done things totally their own way. Stop being shocked that they aren't copying the competition at every turn. ENJOY the fucking variety.
If you can't see the humor in COBRA, then you're balls are probably still hairless and your opinion has little merit.
This article was awful, and full of weak points that amount to nothing. The same things were said before at the beginning of this generation. And who gives a shit if it doesnt sell as many as the wii. Everyone knows it will not. The gamecube was bashed by the haters, and that had some of the coolest games of all time, even though it sold way less units. I thought sales didnt matter to the other console fanboys?
This generation has no attention span, and when you combine that with the massive memory hole in their brain, you've got a dangerous combination, and the average commentary reflects the shallow nature of todays gamer, always looking to destroy anything that doesn't fit in their extremely narrow tunnel vision view.
Nintendo has ALWAYS done things totally their own way. Stop being shocked that they aren't copying the competition at every turn. ENJOY the fucking variety.
non of that matters because nintendo fans will buy anything nintendo shoves up their asses.
and i believe they said the gampad is only single touch, it will not be multitouch. also i can see it being somewhat cheap maybe 300$ simple because its not leaps and bounds better than the ps3/360 which is 5-8 year old tech.
and i believe they said the gampad is only single touch, it will not be multitouch. also i can see it being somewhat cheap maybe 300$ simple because its not leaps and bounds better than the ps3/360 which is 5-8 year old tech.
I personally think the Wii U will do well, but I very much doubt it'll be a repeat of the Wii. I personally think it'll start at $300, but will eventually lower to $250, simply because Nintendo is known for making hardware on the cheap. Of course none of this talk of price or the competition matters: the minute they announce a new Zelda/Smash, Iwata and Reggie will once again channel their inner Scrooge McDuck and start swimming in gold.
Also I behalf of all Nintendo fans, I just want to say that BrainWasherAttendent is a massive prick and does not represent us as a whole. We Nintendo fans are usually a lot nicer and not THAT batshit crazy.
Also I behalf of all Nintendo fans, I just want to say that BrainWasherAttendent is a massive prick and does not represent us as a whole. We Nintendo fans are usually a lot nicer and not THAT batshit crazy.
For fairness I'll bring up the time when single-touch was bad for the DS.
Multi-touch is mostly unnecessary for games, as someone who has a large library of DS games I never noticed the DS only did single-touch until the Korg Synthesizer came out, single touch was an issue because you couldn't press more than 1 key at a time. You could still make good beats, but you were a bit limited.
Aside from that game though I never had an issue with single touch, and the added precision of the single touch benefited me more often in games like Kirby's Canvas Curse, Knights in the Nightmare or Drawing things in Animal Crossing/ Tony Hawk, etc.
Multi-touch is mostly unnecessary for games, as someone who has a large library of DS games I never noticed the DS only did single-touch until the Korg Synthesizer came out, single touch was an issue because you couldn't press more than 1 key at a time. You could still make good beats, but you were a bit limited.
Aside from that game though I never had an issue with single touch, and the added precision of the single touch benefited me more often in games like Kirby's Canvas Curse, Knights in the Nightmare or Drawing things in Animal Crossing/ Tony Hawk, etc.
"I have ever seen is the one in which some guy is playing MLB 2K12 on his PS3 when he realizes he has to leave for work. So what does he do? He grabs his Vita and picks up right where he left off. "
Yes, paying twice for a game because you can't wait until your daily routine is over to play your game is the future! Comparing the pricepoint of a console to a handheld is pretty damn irrelevant too.
Yes, paying twice for a game because you can't wait until your daily routine is over to play your game is the future! Comparing the pricepoint of a console to a handheld is pretty damn irrelevant too.
@fetusmilk
"non of that matters because nintendo fans will buy anything nintendo shoves up their asses. "
You've been kinda grumpy lately, fetus. Everything ok at home?
"non of that matters because nintendo fans will buy anything nintendo shoves up their asses. "
You've been kinda grumpy lately, fetus. Everything ok at home?
Its weird, i thought it was the games that matter.
I never hesitated buying the 360 because it had a couple games i wanted, namely Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey. When it failed to deliver tons of games i liked, i didnt sell the system. I kept it and still play it. I don't bitch about what the console did wrong all day, because the console itself does not matter. It is always about the games.
You all are so console-centric. If you don't like 1st party Nintendo software, then you're in the clear and you do not need to purchase it. The whole reason for a Nintendo console is for their 1st party, and then for the offbeat 3rd party stuff that so called "hardcore" gamers MISS OUT ON.
It's less about "defending Nintendo" and more about the mindset of todays gamer, and how twisted it is now. It's sad to see the degeneration, and the japanese companies seem to take the majority of the criticism from the western media, and its getting OLD.
Heaven forbid you play a game without a gun, that has more than 3 colors in it.
I never hesitated buying the 360 because it had a couple games i wanted, namely Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey. When it failed to deliver tons of games i liked, i didnt sell the system. I kept it and still play it. I don't bitch about what the console did wrong all day, because the console itself does not matter. It is always about the games.
You all are so console-centric. If you don't like 1st party Nintendo software, then you're in the clear and you do not need to purchase it. The whole reason for a Nintendo console is for their 1st party, and then for the offbeat 3rd party stuff that so called "hardcore" gamers MISS OUT ON.
It's less about "defending Nintendo" and more about the mindset of todays gamer, and how twisted it is now. It's sad to see the degeneration, and the japanese companies seem to take the majority of the criticism from the western media, and its getting OLD.
Heaven forbid you play a game without a gun, that has more than 3 colors in it.
When I first saw the Wii U at last year's conference, I honestly thought it was just a new controller for the Wii. Granted, I did a bit of research and discovered (within a few minutes) that it was an entirely new console, but that doesn't change the fact that, at first glance, I -- a person who works for a fucking videogame website -- didn't know what the hell I was looking at.
So yeah, I agree with much of this article. Nintendo's problem, in a nutshell, is that their new product is too confusing at first glance, and upon further research it doesn't really fill a need given the state of the current market.
YET, anyway.
So yeah, I agree with much of this article. Nintendo's problem, in a nutshell, is that their new product is too confusing at first glance, and upon further research it doesn't really fill a need given the state of the current market.
YET, anyway.
@aHolein1
It wasn't just some bizarre addition to Four Swords Adventures... it was the entire concept of it. And you know what, it was one of the most fun I've had in multiplayer. Damn expensive to set up, but so much fun.
It wasn't just some bizarre addition to Four Swords Adventures... it was the entire concept of it. And you know what, it was one of the most fun I've had in multiplayer. Damn expensive to set up, but so much fun.
^ +1 (BWA)
Nintendo knows their shit and as for the graphics:
While the resolution will be basically the same (1080i->1080p) The CPU and GPU are around 2 to 3 times better than the current generation. So no, the graphics are right where they should be, once Square Enix release their graphics engine and Epic does the same, the Wii U will most likely be powerful enough to process it.
And as for the controller I'm kinda one the meh side of things, but like if they confirm that it's 100% portable than I'm totally going to be a day 1 purchaser
Nintendo knows their shit and as for the graphics:
While the resolution will be basically the same (1080i->1080p) The CPU and GPU are around 2 to 3 times better than the current generation. So no, the graphics are right where they should be, once Square Enix release their graphics engine and Epic does the same, the Wii U will most likely be powerful enough to process it.
And as for the controller I'm kinda one the meh side of things, but like if they confirm that it's 100% portable than I'm totally going to be a day 1 purchaser
In my honest opinion, the writer appears to stray off from the original point he's making, and seems to go off on a ramble on how "Nintendo will fail." Not to sound like a narcissistic jack-wagon (or other terms that basically acquaint to "douche"), but writers/journalists posted similar articles last year when focusing around the 3DS.
I believe we all should wait about a year after the Wii U is released onto the general public before we can throw any sort of accusations about Nintendo and how they handle their business.
I believe we all should wait about a year after the Wii U is released onto the general public before we can throw any sort of accusations about Nintendo and how they handle their business.
@andy
The fact that you didn't realize that the Wii U was a new console scares the shit out of me. I think my points are made, and i can now leave this thread.
The fact that you didn't realize that the Wii U was a new console scares the shit out of me. I think my points are made, and i can now leave this thread.
considering the tablet I would consider 300$/250 a good price for such a console, 350$/300 would also be a fair price, you have to take into account that that is still cheaper than what the xbox360 elite originally launched at, especially considering 7 years of inflation @2.2% per year. Really I would love to see cheaper but I really can't see that happening. The euro price should also be lower than it is now compared to the dollar though, even though the euro is a temporary low point with the euro crisis this may very well heal back to normal in a few years time.
A lot of this article did not break down much in the way of cost, ending up just another doom & gloom article for the WiiU. While I also don't believe the WiiU will be the smashing success the Wii was, I don't think it will fail either. Assuming a $250 price, the Wii will be the most graphically powerful system on the market for the same price as it's competitors. With it comes a packed in new control scheme that can only be matched by another $200+ purchase for other consoles (a Vita or Smartphone/Tablet). New games will probably cost $60, same as new games for other consoles, with a huge backlog of backwards compatible Wii games < $30.
As a value comparison, hardware to hardware, the WiiU will win out at that price. Software to software value will be very personal. WiiU seems to have the best versions of the cross platform games it's receiving, but it does not appear to be recieving much more then the biggest hitters (AssCreed, CoD and the like) or last years top HD games. For those hooked in on the multiplayer for those game, I don't think it will be worth it to abandon their network of friends to play the best version of BlOps2. Access to Nintendo's own superb game library s always a big selling point to a huge number of gamers though. I think Nintendo's followers will definitely be there, everyone else is a toss up.
I think Nintendo would be providing a great value @ $250-300. For people upgrading from a Wii, who have not already picked up a different HD console, this will be a no brainer. For people looking for the next graphical leap in video games, they will have no interest. For me, If I saw the WiiU and a PS3 sitting next to each other ins a store this christmas, offered for the same price, I'd pick the WiiU.
As a value comparison, hardware to hardware, the WiiU will win out at that price. Software to software value will be very personal. WiiU seems to have the best versions of the cross platform games it's receiving, but it does not appear to be recieving much more then the biggest hitters (AssCreed, CoD and the like) or last years top HD games. For those hooked in on the multiplayer for those game, I don't think it will be worth it to abandon their network of friends to play the best version of BlOps2. Access to Nintendo's own superb game library s always a big selling point to a huge number of gamers though. I think Nintendo's followers will definitely be there, everyone else is a toss up.
I think Nintendo would be providing a great value @ $250-300. For people upgrading from a Wii, who have not already picked up a different HD console, this will be a no brainer. For people looking for the next graphical leap in video games, they will have no interest. For me, If I saw the WiiU and a PS3 sitting next to each other ins a store this christmas, offered for the same price, I'd pick the WiiU.
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