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I've never played Half-Life 2, and I'm not really a first person shooter guy, but from what I've heard about the game I wouldn't doubt that it is definitely high on the list of top FPSes.
I wanna say he's right but its definately up there between halo for action and controls and HL2 for outstanding storytelling and pacing.
I wonder how long it will take for someone to misread this as Half Life 2 having the best shooting mechanics.
Peter Jackson was inspired by beyond good and evil but that didn't make king kong any less shit.
But I'll give Homefront the benefit of the doubt because it genuinely looks like something new.
But I'll give Homefront the benefit of the doubt because it genuinely looks like something new.
Half-Life 2 was so immersive when I played it so I mean, that makes it great but not the best. What makes it the best is that is lasts considerably longer than other typical FPS games.
Agreed 200%
You don't get quality and atmosphere like that anymore. IF ONLY VALVE TIME DIDN'T EXIST.....
You don't get quality and atmosphere like that anymore. IF ONLY VALVE TIME DIDN'T EXIST.....
Half-Life 2 is the best shooter ever made in the sense that It's a shooter and it's better than most every game ever made. Does it have the best shooting mechanics? Maybe not, but it really didn't matter.
While I had fun in HL2, my lingering memory was that it never seemed to run properly on any configuration I tried it on for the first two years (and it had to be about four or five different motherboards, video, and sound cards). Stuttering sound bugs, loading screens around every corner, and the oft-repeated crashes. While I enjoyed the story, I felt it had a lot of FP but not a lot of S. I'd say I had a lot more fun with Call of Duty in terms of immersion, even though the WWII enviornment is overplayed. Same with Bioshock (in terms of the immersion).
"That said, do you agree that HL2 is the peak of the shooter genre? Let us know!"
Nope. Besides the very repetitive structural design and shallow mechanics, it was far too padded for my liking. That, and the physics engine puzzles were too drawling and narcissistic. The narrative style was great; the narration and plot, not so much. I feel Bioshock handled the style much more solidly.
Nope. Besides the very repetitive structural design and shallow mechanics, it was far too padded for my liking. That, and the physics engine puzzles were too drawling and narcissistic. The narrative style was great; the narration and plot, not so much. I feel Bioshock handled the style much more solidly.
What I loved about HL2 was how realistic it felt. You never felt like you were in a game world, there were no moments that broke the fourth wall and reminded you that you were playing a game. The way the scripted events and character reactions occur around you are so well designed and work so seamlessly that 6 years on it's still the most real-feeling immersive game experience I've ever had
The original Half-Life does more for me, but 2 is exceptional. I still wanna say FEAR is better, but then again that is kind of stupid.
@Epic
Let me guess, bloated and indulgent? Ah I'm only taking the piss.
Someone reminded me of COD4. I have to agree that the first Modern Warfare trumps almost every other fps in terms of immersion and atmosphere by virtue of a first person narrative.
Let me guess, bloated and indulgent? Ah I'm only taking the piss.
Someone reminded me of COD4. I have to agree that the first Modern Warfare trumps almost every other fps in terms of immersion and atmosphere by virtue of a first person narrative.
I never saw what was so brilliant about HL2, but alot of people like it so It's got to be doing something right for most people. (I know I'm in the minority) But since everyone else is sharing what there favorite shooter is I'd have to say one of my favorite's has to be Counter-Strike.
I've disliked almost all shooting games I've played. I despise the level design in the COD series (only played WaW, MW, and MW2 though), and the Halo series just bores me. Then I picked up the Orange Box recently, and Half Life 2 is one of the best things I've ever played. Interesting story, awesome level design, fun shooting mechanics, and insanely unique (command a hoard of Antlions? Why not!).
Kind of like how I'm not big on RPG's, but Mother 3 IS the best thing I've ever played.
Kind of like how I'm not big on RPG's, but Mother 3 IS the best thing I've ever played.
HL2 was good, but it wasn't the masterpiece that HL 1 has. Althought a great deal of the redeemming elements in HL1 are copied over. Such as variety in shooting things (unlike the SP in Bad company 2 for example). What Half Life one had that half life two didn't have was the ability to KILL FRIENDLIES. Had I been able to shoot Alyx a few hundred thousand times in the face, I think I would heartily recommend Half Life 2 to everyone. Breen was more interesting than any of the good guys. But Xen. Oh Xen. Can't ever truly forget Xen. Plus in Half Life two the only gun that isn't pathetic is the last one. In a game mostly about shooting things, it's a shame all your tools feel flaccid and sound incapable.
The in-game stuff I've seen for homefront looks dire compared to the hype/trailers news reel style stuff. I hope they actually make something fresh and interesting and there's nothing wrong with examining Half Life 2 for that. Maybe examine Thief 2 as well though? For some stealth bits where you have to evade the enemy because they are too strong? I dunno. I just think it might end up too 'Cover and Shooting' like all the rest of them there games what have guns.
The in-game stuff I've seen for homefront looks dire compared to the hype/trailers news reel style stuff. I hope they actually make something fresh and interesting and there's nothing wrong with examining Half Life 2 for that. Maybe examine Thief 2 as well though? For some stealth bits where you have to evade the enemy because they are too strong? I dunno. I just think it might end up too 'Cover and Shooting' like all the rest of them there games what have guns.
I whole heartedly agree. There are no other fps that I have replayed more and stayed entertained through out.
As if I needed any other reason to like Homefront. Granted, that doesn't mean it'll be amazing, but it is certainly good for the game. As for best shooter ever, I agree with Davydock. As for as action and controls, Halo: CE (Halo 1) is the best there is. However, as far as storytelling and pacing, Half-Life 2 and BioShock own the top spot.
people who think Bioshock's contradicting themes and pretentious plot trump Half-Life 2 because Half-Life 2 draws more from traditional science-fiction make me lul.
"Please kill the little sisters- I want you to!- but you still have a choice."
"Oh btw I control everything you do."
"2 ENDINGS LOLOLOLOL IT'S NONLINEAR STORYTELLING"
"Please kill the little sisters- I want you to!- but you still have a choice."
"Oh btw I control everything you do."
"2 ENDINGS LOLOLOLOL IT'S NONLINEAR STORYTELLING"
@KingSigy It's not stupid of you think FEAR is better it's your opinion and your entitled to it regardless of what anyone thinks or says :-}
I agree with this guy The one from Kois studios...I'm kind of a fan of shooter I Didn't like MW1 or 2 but I love Black-ops but it's a matter of Opinion really everyone has something to say about everything ya know? Whether it be good or bad this guy says HL2 was AWESOME another says Meh...And another guy say It was just lame...So there ya go. No need to post a long comment comparing shooters or hating them and what not. But If homefront is anything like HL2 it's gonna be awesome.And as For Alyx...Mmm *fap fap fap*
I agree with this guy The one from Kois studios...I'm kind of a fan of shooter I Didn't like MW1 or 2 but I love Black-ops but it's a matter of Opinion really everyone has something to say about everything ya know? Whether it be good or bad this guy says HL2 was AWESOME another says Meh...And another guy say It was just lame...So there ya go. No need to post a long comment comparing shooters or hating them and what not. But If homefront is anything like HL2 it's gonna be awesome.And as For Alyx...Mmm *fap fap fap*
Ugh, I hope that doesn't include the weapons. HL1 weapons > HL2 ones. Being stuck in a room and forced to listen to exposition was also rage inducing. If only there was a counter for the amount of times you jumped around in one of those locked rooms, across playthroughs.
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HL1 + HL2 are my top FPS's ever made, so i can relate to that. Specially to the immersive, no-cutsecene storytelling they talk about.
Half-Life has the best and most fully realized world out of any shooter. It's not a great shooter, only a competent one with an excellent support structure in its narrative and environment.
Half-Life is not a great shooter, but it is an incredible experience.
I'm still not sold on Homefront. I've seen similar setups before in other titles, and I really don't need/want another FPS.
Half-Life is not a great shooter, but it is an incredible experience.
I'm still not sold on Homefront. I've seen similar setups before in other titles, and I really don't need/want another FPS.
I didnt like HL2 a whole lot. Ep. 1 and 2 were much better and more interesting. It was still a good game though.
I definitely prefer HL1 though. But its mostly just cuz of the MP5s grenade launcher sound.
I definitely prefer HL1 though. But its mostly just cuz of the MP5s grenade launcher sound.
Half-Life has always bored me... Probably because I went in to it with huge expectations 'cause everyone is always saying it's SOOOOOO incredible and that I played them so long after they were actually released. Regardless, I hope Half-Life doesn't have too much influence on this game...
And no, I DO NOT PLAY CALL OF F***IN' DUTY.
And no, I DO NOT PLAY CALL OF F***IN' DUTY.
I would honestly argue that Half Life 2 isn't a 'bloody good shooter.' I guess I'm just the odd one out, but either way, I flipping don't like that game.
Eh. It's alright. It is perfect, I'll give you that. But I personally wouldn't go so far as to claim it's the best. Flawless though in execution I guess I agree. Better than every other shooter on earth though? I wouldn't go that far. I guess it depends on what you want out of your shooter.
What I never got is the whole bit about Half-Life 2 having all this atmosphere and escapism. Maybe I should've tried harder. And Alyx Vance who I still believe is the most overrated character in videogames to date.
But really, in my opinion, those are tiny criticisms. The gameplay was there.
What I never got is the whole bit about Half-Life 2 having all this atmosphere and escapism. Maybe I should've tried harder. And Alyx Vance who I still believe is the most overrated character in videogames to date.
But really, in my opinion, those are tiny criticisms. The gameplay was there.
I enjoyed Bioshock more, but I'm not sure if that's really a "shooter" the same way that Half-Life 2 was. As far as straight, by numbers, FPS games go, yeah, Half-Life 2 has been my favorite so far (just barely eclipsing my memories of Dark Forces).
Whoever doesn't agree with this statement needs to slap their idiot faces until the seething pain boils over.
It's clear that Homefront influenced a lot in HL2. On the trailer you can see a guy looking out a train to the oppressive atmosphere beyond. Not a coincidence I feel now that I have read this.
It's clear that Homefront influenced a lot in HL2. On the trailer you can see a guy looking out a train to the oppressive atmosphere beyond. Not a coincidence I feel now that I have read this.
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