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Homefront dev: Half-Life 2 is the best shooter ever made photo

We've been chatting to Kaos Studios' Dave Votypka about the upcoming THQ-published game, Homefront. The studio has stated before that Valve's Half-Life 2 is a big inspiration for the game, and we wanted to know how deep that inspiration runs. 

"For me personally, Half-Life 2 is probably the best overall shooter experience made to date," he says. "I view entertainment as escapism, and that can take many forms, but being able to step out of our everyday existence into an alternate world for a little while is magical, whether it’s with a book, a movie, or a game.  The games I most enjoy playing, and creating, are ones that create a compelling game world that focuses on supporting immersion as much as possible. 

"Half-Life 2 created, what I call, a world reminiscent of the book 1984; and the techniques they used to deliver it supported immersion and escapism into their world more than any other shooter has.  Their no cutscene approach was a huge part of this, never pulling the player out of their cognitive immersion, which so many games often do with various interruptions.  Seamlessly transitioning between combat, story and character moments, goes a long way towards maintaining immersion."

He goes on to talk about how Homefront is learning from Half-Life 2: "With Homefront, the occupation USA setting provides us with the opportunity to create a deep game world; one that can be very interesting to escape to and experience.  Therefore, we wanted to maximize player immersion with our world, and we drew inspiration from what Valve did with the techniques they used to deliver theirs.

"That said, we’ve put a large focus on environmental narrative (what you see tells you its own story), having civilians throughout most of the game and seeing how they are affected by the cost of war, as well as allied character depth and development (emotions and human flaws).  By letting the game world drive the ideas in these areas, one of the results is what we call “why we fight” moments, where the player experiences all of the items above during gameplay, and as a result has a much stronger emotional connection and reason to pick up the gun."

Sounds good to me. Very few would argue that Half-Life 2 isn't a bloody great first-person-shooter, and any game that aspires to its lofty goals deserves all the encouragement it can get. That said, do you agree that HL2 is the peak of the shooter genre? Let us know!








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Zarwid Thwic's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:43
Zarwid Thwic
I've never played Half-Life 2, and I'm not really a first person shooter guy, but from what I've heard about the game I wouldn't doubt that it is definitely high on the list of top FPSes.
Ryan J Murphy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:43
Ryan J Murphy
of single player shooter yes?
and i guess multi too since u did get css with it...
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:45
DAVYDOCK
I wanna say he's right but its definately up there between halo for action and controls and HL2 for outstanding storytelling and pacing.
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:46
DAVYDOCK
Halo 1
Chardan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:47
Chardan
I wonder how long it will take for someone to misread this as Half Life 2 having the best shooting mechanics.
Telephis's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:52
Telephis
this makes me interested in homefront more than anything I have read prior
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:55
DAVYDOCK
Peter Jackson was inspired by beyond good and evil but that didn't make king kong any less shit.

But I'll give Homefront the benefit of the doubt because it genuinely looks like something new.
Vandrith's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:56
Vandrith
Half-Life 2 was so immersive when I played it so I mean, that makes it great but not the best. What makes it the best is that is lasts considerably longer than other typical FPS games.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:56
Mr Andy Dixon
I agree with the Homefront dev.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:57
BluDesign
I agree. It and Bioshock are two of my highest regarded games I would advise anyone to play.
Farenheit's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:58
Farenheit
Homefront dev's are learning from HL2? *preorders*
killerpickles's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:58
killerpickles
This Homefront dev knows what he is talking about.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:58
Los255
Agreed 200%

You don't get quality and atmosphere like that anymore. IF ONLY VALVE TIME DIDN'T EXIST.....
bricewgilbert's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:58
bricewgilbert
Half-Life 2 is the best shooter ever made in the sense that It's a shooter and it's better than most every game ever made. Does it have the best shooting mechanics? Maybe not, but it really didn't matter.
LK4O4's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 17:59
LK4O4
Yeah, Half-Life 2 is pretty amazing. Especially Ravenholm.
IonicR's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:07
IonicR
I wouldn't say Half-Life 2 is the best shooter ever made. Half-Life 2: Episode 2 though...
watermanx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:08
watermanx
It shows as well. From the preview I saw at gamescom, there was a definite HL2 vibe in it?
jedcred's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:08
jedcred
While I had fun in HL2, my lingering memory was that it never seemed to run properly on any configuration I tried it on for the first two years (and it had to be about four or five different motherboards, video, and sound cards). Stuttering sound bugs, loading screens around every corner, and the oft-repeated crashes. While I enjoyed the story, I felt it had a lot of FP but not a lot of S. I'd say I had a lot more fun with Call of Duty in terms of immersion, even though the WWII enviornment is overplayed. Same with Bioshock (in terms of the immersion).
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:14
Stephen Beirne
"That said, do you agree that HL2 is the peak of the shooter genre? Let us know!"

Nope. Besides the very repetitive structural design and shallow mechanics, it was far too padded for my liking. That, and the physics engine puzzles were too drawling and narcissistic. The narrative style was great; the narration and plot, not so much. I feel Bioshock handled the style much more solidly.
watermanx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:17
watermanx
Byronic Man - ..... GET OUT!
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:21
Mr Andy Dixon
@IonicR

Good call on Episode 2. My favorite segment of the series by far.
Chongomaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:22
Chongomaster
Always good to see a fellow Half Life fanboy.
Chocken's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:27
Chocken
What I loved about HL2 was how realistic it felt. You never felt like you were in a game world, there were no moments that broke the fourth wall and reminded you that you were playing a game. The way the scripted events and character reactions occur around you are so well designed and work so seamlessly that 6 years on it's still the most real-feeling immersive game experience I've ever had
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:33
KingSigy
The original Half-Life does more for me, but 2 is exceptional. I still wanna say FEAR is better, but then again that is kind of stupid.
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:37
Stephen Beirne
@Epic
Let me guess, bloated and indulgent? Ah I'm only taking the piss.

Someone reminded me of COD4. I have to agree that the first Modern Warfare trumps almost every other fps in terms of immersion and atmosphere by virtue of a first person narrative.
Zeta Crossfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:41
Zeta Crossfire
I never saw what was so brilliant about HL2, but alot of people like it so It's got to be doing something right for most people. (I know I'm in the minority) But since everyone else is sharing what there favorite shooter is I'd have to say one of my favorite's has to be Counter-Strike.
Paperclip's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:44
Paperclip
I've disliked almost all shooting games I've played. I despise the level design in the COD series (only played WaW, MW, and MW2 though), and the Halo series just bores me. Then I picked up the Orange Box recently, and Half Life 2 is one of the best things I've ever played. Interesting story, awesome level design, fun shooting mechanics, and insanely unique (command a hoard of Antlions? Why not!).

Kind of like how I'm not big on RPG's, but Mother 3 IS the best thing I've ever played.
measurements's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:48
measurements
HL2 was good, but it wasn't the masterpiece that HL 1 has. Althought a great deal of the redeemming elements in HL1 are copied over. Such as variety in shooting things (unlike the SP in Bad company 2 for example). What Half Life one had that half life two didn't have was the ability to KILL FRIENDLIES. Had I been able to shoot Alyx a few hundred thousand times in the face, I think I would heartily recommend Half Life 2 to everyone. Breen was more interesting than any of the good guys. But Xen. Oh Xen. Can't ever truly forget Xen. Plus in Half Life two the only gun that isn't pathetic is the last one. In a game mostly about shooting things, it's a shame all your tools feel flaccid and sound incapable.

The in-game stuff I've seen for homefront looks dire compared to the hype/trailers news reel style stuff. I hope they actually make something fresh and interesting and there's nothing wrong with examining Half Life 2 for that. Maybe examine Thief 2 as well though? For some stealth bits where you have to evade the enemy because they are too strong? I dunno. I just think it might end up too 'Cover and Shooting' like all the rest of them there games what have guns.
EmptySkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:52
EmptySkin
HL2 and deus ex are the epitome of gaming.
killsm00th's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:52
killsm00th
I did like Bioshock and COD4 better.
Johnny Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:53
Johnny Justice
I whole heartedly agree. There are no other fps that I have replayed more and stayed entertained through out.
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:54
WarZombie
As if I needed any other reason to like Homefront. Granted, that doesn't mean it'll be amazing, but it is certainly good for the game. As for best shooter ever, I agree with Davydock. As for as action and controls, Halo: CE (Halo 1) is the best there is. However, as far as storytelling and pacing, Half-Life 2 and BioShock own the top spot.
JohnnyJustice's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:55
JohnnyJustice
people who think Bioshock's contradicting themes and pretentious plot trump Half-Life 2 because Half-Life 2 draws more from traditional science-fiction make me lul.

"Please kill the little sisters- I want you to!- but you still have a choice."

"Oh btw I control everything you do."

"2 ENDINGS LOLOLOLOL IT'S NONLINEAR STORYTELLING"
~JnRx Teh Jokester~'s Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:55
~JnRx Teh Jokester~
@KingSigy It's not stupid of you think FEAR is better it's your opinion and your entitled to it regardless of what anyone thinks or says :-}

I agree with this guy The one from Kois studios...I'm kind of a fan of shooter I Didn't like MW1 or 2 but I love Black-ops but it's a matter of Opinion really everyone has something to say about everything ya know? Whether it be good or bad this guy says HL2 was AWESOME another says Meh...And another guy say It was just lame...So there ya go. No need to post a long comment comparing shooters or hating them and what not. But If homefront is anything like HL2 it's gonna be awesome.And as For Alyx...Mmm *fap fap fap*
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:56
Maurice Tan
Ugh, I hope that doesn't include the weapons. HL1 weapons > HL2 ones. Being stuck in a room and forced to listen to exposition was also rage inducing. If only there was a counter for the amount of times you jumped around in one of those locked rooms, across playthroughs.
~JnRx Teh Jokester~'s Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 18:59
~JnRx Teh Jokester~
Real Reason Half Life 2 Was The Best Shooter Ever....Ready For it....VALVE VALVE VALVE FREEE CONTENT PC VALVE TF1 TF2 CAKE LIE PORTAL! GABE NEWELL ALyX Buttox When going Down the long elevators O_o STEAM! The Cake Is a Lie! MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES, BUT THE DELICIOUS FROSTED PASTRY IS A FALSE, YET CLEVER FABRICATION THAT ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR MIND. >:D
Felipe Choque's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 19:01
Felipe Choque
HL1 + HL2 are my top FPS's ever made, so i can relate to that. Specially to the immersive, no-cutsecene storytelling they talk about.
Gten's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 19:05
Gten
HL1>HL2
COD4>every COD
HL>EVERY FPS
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 19:16
pedrovay2003
I agree completely. HL2 is the best shooter I've ever played.
Comrade Snarky's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 19:20
Comrade Snarky
It's certainly up there. But then, that isn't really a particularly controversial claim, is it?
Fugly Duckling's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 19:23
Fugly Duckling
Half-Life has the best and most fully realized world out of any shooter. It's not a great shooter, only a competent one with an excellent support structure in its narrative and environment.

Half-Life is not a great shooter, but it is an incredible experience.

I'm still not sold on Homefront. I've seen similar setups before in other titles, and I really don't need/want another FPS.
commyzthatdont's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 19:33
commyzthatdont
I didnt like HL2 a whole lot. Ep. 1 and 2 were much better and more interesting. It was still a good game though.

I definitely prefer HL1 though. But its mostly just cuz of the MP5s grenade launcher sound.
annoyinglad's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 19:50
annoyinglad
Half-Life has always bored me... Probably because I went in to it with huge expectations 'cause everyone is always saying it's SOOOOOO incredible and that I played them so long after they were actually released. Regardless, I hope Half-Life doesn't have too much influence on this game...

And no, I DO NOT PLAY CALL OF F***IN' DUTY.
Dyna Geek's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 19:53
Dyna Geek
I would honestly argue that Half Life 2 isn't a 'bloody good shooter.' I guess I'm just the odd one out, but either way, I flipping don't like that game.
Gaidenrider's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 20:03
Gaidenrider
@Dyna Geek: Maka will be mad, Soul
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 20:13
Xzyliac
Eh. It's alright. It is perfect, I'll give you that. But I personally wouldn't go so far as to claim it's the best. Flawless though in execution I guess I agree. Better than every other shooter on earth though? I wouldn't go that far. I guess it depends on what you want out of your shooter.

What I never got is the whole bit about Half-Life 2 having all this atmosphere and escapism. Maybe I should've tried harder. And Alyx Vance who I still believe is the most overrated character in videogames to date.

But really, in my opinion, those are tiny criticisms. The gameplay was there.
unreeler's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 20:17
unreeler
if you are playin a FPS thats not online and its not HL2 your doin it wrong.
RichardBlaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 20:20
RichardBlaine
I enjoyed Bioshock more, but I'm not sure if that's really a "shooter" the same way that Half-Life 2 was. As far as straight, by numbers, FPS games go, yeah, Half-Life 2 has been my favorite so far (just barely eclipsing my memories of Dark Forces).
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 20:25
GoodGuyA
Whoever doesn't agree with this statement needs to slap their idiot faces until the seething pain boils over.

It's clear that Homefront influenced a lot in HL2. On the trailer you can see a guy looking out a train to the oppressive atmosphere beyond. Not a coincidence I feel now that I have read this.
Sæglópur's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/08/2010 20:31
Sæglópur
Indeed, Homefront dev, it is.

I thought of Half-Life 2 when I saw some of the single player screens for Homefront. It looked like it did a lot of the storytelling stuff in-game, which is nice.
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