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SH3 > SH2 > SH > Shattered Dreams > Origins > Homecoming >>>>>>>> the piece of refuse inexplicably named SH4.
Downpour looks good, though. I just want another Fatal Frame, actually.
Downpour looks good, though. I just want another Fatal Frame, actually.
@HEL105
as much as i love your list Silent Hill 4 should definitely be up there, it's probably the last Team Silent game ever made.
hopefully downpour can at least stick close to the first four silent hill games. i still want a Silent Hill 3 like game. maybe suda 51 can make one with Akira? :)
as much as i love your list Silent Hill 4 should definitely be up there, it's probably the last Team Silent game ever made.
hopefully downpour can at least stick close to the first four silent hill games. i still want a Silent Hill 3 like game. maybe suda 51 can make one with Akira? :)
It may be a fair excuse, and Konami is most likely to blame, but that doesn't change the fact Double Helix is a crap developer.
I liked Homecoming, loved Shattered Memories, SH2 and SH1. Never played Origins, but HATED SH4TR and disliked SH3.
I can certainly see this being the case. the original team was a very strange collection of brilliant people. no other random developer, north american or japanese or otherwise, is going to be able to replicate that unique chemistry.
the only way we're going to get the game we want is if we can get enough SH fans to fund a Kickstart, to re-hire the original team to make a silent hill-esque rip-off, without konami's involvement.
the only way we're going to get the game we want is if we can get enough SH fans to fund a Kickstart, to re-hire the original team to make a silent hill-esque rip-off, without konami's involvement.
Silent Hill 4 is an under-appreciated masterpiece. I've never really understood the exhibited hatred from some of the louder SH fans. Was it because it was a little different? That'd be a rather pointless reason...all four of the original games were vastly different from one another.
While I blame Konami for shuffling one of its better properties onto western developers (who've never really been able to duplicate the atmosphere of J-Horror...even J-Horror heavily based on W-Horror, e.i. Silent Hill), I still curse Helix for being unable to capture a horror like atmosphere...that kind of thing comes from the artist at hand, not the person giving them direction. If they had been properly passionate enough about the game, it would have delivered some level of scare.
While I blame Konami for shuffling one of its better properties onto western developers (who've never really been able to duplicate the atmosphere of J-Horror...even J-Horror heavily based on W-Horror, e.i. Silent Hill), I still curse Helix for being unable to capture a horror like atmosphere...that kind of thing comes from the artist at hand, not the person giving them direction. If they had been properly passionate enough about the game, it would have delivered some level of scare.
@PrinceHeir That's an interesting thought. I'd love to see Suda make a Silent Hill game. He scared the crap out of me with Killer 7, so I can only imagine how scary he could get with SH.
The Designs of enemies in Homecoming were pretty awesome and I didn't mind the game itself too much, but it was clearly no where near the level the original 3 were at. I still have my doubts with Downpour, but like most desperate SH fans, I'm a little optimistic.
Wait, I liked SH3 but it's very evident in that game that SH was already getting dumbed down and that the developers, either due to Konami or their own internal politics, were trying to make it more action and novelty based. In the earlier games you used a plank of wood and a steel pipe most of the time, in SH3 you suddenly have samurai swords, flame throwers, SMGs and - admittedly as an intentionally 4th-wall-breaking bonus - a magical girl costume complete with magical HEATHER BEAM.
I have no doubt that Homecoming is even MORE down that path, but it's funny how people are saying "Yeah, the more actiony SHs are shit, and SH3 is the best!!!" It's like bemoaning the over-abundance of FPS on modern consoles and then saying "I wish we were back in the good old days of Doom and Wolfenstein".
Also, for the record, Shattered Memories had literally no combat, unless you count running for your life as combat. It also had an entire cast, an enemy type and many buildings, signs etc, that would be different depending on how you played the game - for the first time, SH was changing to the player's personality and mentality rather than either being a rusty hell or James' personal version. That was of course made by a UK developer rather than the US one that made Homecoming.
I have no doubt that Homecoming is even MORE down that path, but it's funny how people are saying "Yeah, the more actiony SHs are shit, and SH3 is the best!!!" It's like bemoaning the over-abundance of FPS on modern consoles and then saying "I wish we were back in the good old days of Doom and Wolfenstein".
Also, for the record, Shattered Memories had literally no combat, unless you count running for your life as combat. It also had an entire cast, an enemy type and many buildings, signs etc, that would be different depending on how you played the game - for the first time, SH was changing to the player's personality and mentality rather than either being a rusty hell or James' personal version. That was of course made by a UK developer rather than the US one that made Homecoming.
*Double Helix
and thanks for the linking Jim. For all we know these were just angry comments made a year ago, and nothing to get worked up on.
and thanks for the linking Jim. For all we know these were just angry comments made a year ago, and nothing to get worked up on.
@Chad Almasy
SH:The Room is hardly a masterpiece. It is underrated, sure. But i can justify the criticism - the game PLAYED bad. It had great concepts, Room concept itself was brilliant and the idea of reusing the older "levels" was good. But it decided to have more emphasis on the action with the action part being rather bad.
SH:The Room is hardly a masterpiece. It is underrated, sure. But i can justify the criticism - the game PLAYED bad. It had great concepts, Room concept itself was brilliant and the idea of reusing the older "levels" was good. But it decided to have more emphasis on the action with the action part being rather bad.
I liked Homecoming actually. I think the weakest one has been Origins. SH4 I liked a lot too up until you were escorting the girl for like maybe 3 of the stages again. I couldn't finish it after that. I just lost all interest since any bit of tension just turned into frustation of an AI character and what they were doing.
SH2 is my favourite game of all time, period. I also happen to not hate SH4 even if I think it's the weakest game Team Silent made. Homecoming is definitely the worst SH ever, though I still enjoyed it. But instead of Downpour picture this: Silent Hill HD Collection on PS3, how awesome would that be? Or at least Wii port like with Resident Evil 4? No? Well, screw you Konami.
@PrinceHeir
It kills me that The Room was basically their last hurrah, because it's the only SH that I had to force myself to finish. I just didn't enjoy it, at all.
It kills me that The Room was basically their last hurrah, because it's the only SH that I had to force myself to finish. I just didn't enjoy it, at all.
Tried to post before the site crashed but...
Home comeing was not a bad game and SH2 is easily my favourite but the lack of inversion in the options was HORRIBLE.
If they had allowed me to invert my camera control and not just when aiming then I wouldn't have sold my copy the very next day at a $20 hit to me. I literally was running around running into walls and staring at the roof, it was brutal.
Home comeing was not a bad game and SH2 is easily my favourite but the lack of inversion in the options was HORRIBLE.
If they had allowed me to invert my camera control and not just when aiming then I wouldn't have sold my copy the very next day at a $20 hit to me. I literally was running around running into walls and staring at the roof, it was brutal.
I myself f****g love every Silent Hill (including Silent Hill). Some more than others. 1 at the top for me.
Double Helix got way too much heat, they changed Silent Hill and although it was different and wasn't what we expected, I still liked it. I hear this all the time:" Shoulda changed the name to something other than Silent Hill, THEN it would have got better scores."
But shouldn't a game be measured on ITSELF and NOT a comparison to other games (even if it is a series?) Maybe the fans built up standards, but whatever. I know for a fact that you didn't like it, and can come up with a big list why. Just sayin'.
Double Helix got way too much heat, they changed Silent Hill and although it was different and wasn't what we expected, I still liked it. I hear this all the time:" Shoulda changed the name to something other than Silent Hill, THEN it would have got better scores."
But shouldn't a game be measured on ITSELF and NOT a comparison to other games (even if it is a series?) Maybe the fans built up standards, but whatever. I know for a fact that you didn't like it, and can come up with a big list why. Just sayin'.
are we badmouthing "The Room" here? or are we talking about the 360 game that came out a while back?
"but I hope that Konami keeps its sticky fingers out of the development, if the publisher really is the problem here."
here is how i see it. They are not blaming Konami for interfering with development.
What he means by the comment is that they are not Team Silent, and so nobody should expect them to be Team Silent. If fans want to vent anger, they should do so at Konami for disbanding Team Silent, and not at Double Helix for failing to emulate that studio.
here is how i see it. They are not blaming Konami for interfering with development.
What he means by the comment is that they are not Team Silent, and so nobody should expect them to be Team Silent. If fans want to vent anger, they should do so at Konami for disbanding Team Silent, and not at Double Helix for failing to emulate that studio.
I love Shattered Memories actually. I really only dig the really psychological Silent Hills without the cult story maddness. Silent Hill 2 and Shattered Memories are my absolute favorites. 1 and 3 were fun as well but, yeah, the psychological ones grip me the most, emotionally and I invest more in them. I wish all Silent Hills were more like these in how they engage you. Cult stories don't do much to scare me, but make me think about human behavior and trauma and I'm all but gripped and freaking out thinking about it.
Ah, that's not very professional, mister artist. Looks like someone doesn't really care which bridges he burns. *shakes head*
The thing I disliked most about Homecoming was it was ridiulously dark in contrast, even with the brightness turned up high I still found it really difficult to see what was going on which felt like really bad game design and a way of killing you with cheap deaths. But if what they're saying is true, it's a very dick move of Konami to break up the team that made Silent Hil a success in the first place.
@Genius
Yeah, pretty much right. Konami may be to blame at least in part, but I'm not sure I'll just accept as gospel somebody telling me it's all the publisher's fault when the person telling me that is from a developer with this resume:
2008 - Silent Hill: Homecoming
2009 - G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
2010 - Front Mission Evolved
It's not as if Double Helix is burning up the charts, and it's not as if they've shown improvement with their two critically panned follow up games. If anything, they've made WORSE games since Homecoming, so perhaps it's partly on a bad developer and not just a game of "let's blame Konami". But I suppose G.I. Joe was EA's fault, and Front Mission Evolved was Square-Enix's fault. Right?
Just looking at Konami, they also farmed out another of their famous franchises to a fairly new western developer with Castlevania: Lords of Shadow. And that was also a pretty drastic departure from the tradition of the series, as planned by Konami. But MercuryStream pulled off a game that was generally critically praised, instead of Double Helix managing to make something that was fairly universally viewed as mediocre at best.
Yeah, pretty much right. Konami may be to blame at least in part, but I'm not sure I'll just accept as gospel somebody telling me it's all the publisher's fault when the person telling me that is from a developer with this resume:
2008 - Silent Hill: Homecoming
2009 - G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
2010 - Front Mission Evolved
It's not as if Double Helix is burning up the charts, and it's not as if they've shown improvement with their two critically panned follow up games. If anything, they've made WORSE games since Homecoming, so perhaps it's partly on a bad developer and not just a game of "let's blame Konami". But I suppose G.I. Joe was EA's fault, and Front Mission Evolved was Square-Enix's fault. Right?
Just looking at Konami, they also farmed out another of their famous franchises to a fairly new western developer with Castlevania: Lords of Shadow. And that was also a pretty drastic departure from the tradition of the series, as planned by Konami. But MercuryStream pulled off a game that was generally critically praised, instead of Double Helix managing to make something that was fairly universally viewed as mediocre at best.
I loved SH4 and don't understand all the hate it gets. I really enjoyed playing through it.. More than I did SH3 even. It's got some pretty unique elements, yes, but it's hardly a bad game.
I liked that you couldn't fully kill those ghosts too. Some of the imagery and atmosphere in 4 is the creepiest and most threatening in the series IMO.
I don't think anyone is likely to surpass SH2 and Konami had a good run with their internal games.. Perhaps they worked out they didn’t really know how to improve on the forum and decided it'd be better for other people to try. I really don't mind seeing different teams' spins on SH though I'd like to see an internal team revisit it eventually.
I liked that you couldn't fully kill those ghosts too. Some of the imagery and atmosphere in 4 is the creepiest and most threatening in the series IMO.
I don't think anyone is likely to surpass SH2 and Konami had a good run with their internal games.. Perhaps they worked out they didn’t really know how to improve on the forum and decided it'd be better for other people to try. I really don't mind seeing different teams' spins on SH though I'd like to see an internal team revisit it eventually.
@PrinceHeir That's an interesting thought. I'd love to see Suda make a Silent Hill game. He scared the crap out of me with Killer 7, so I can only imagine how scary he could get with SH.
yeah... i miss the good old silent hill games... SH SH2 SH3 are so waesome... the other games don't exist.
@mooseifer69
Actually, i strongly disagree with you here. What is wrong with going to a game series expecting the same spirit to exist in each title? Each of the games made by Team Silent had the same feel and the same spirit to them. Homecoming didn't feel the same, didn't have the same spirit, and it blatantly violated rules that were well established in the Silent Hill universe. If I want a mediocre horror game, Homecoming can scratch that itch. If I want a Silent Hill game, Homecoming doesn't scratch the itch at all. When you use an established series name, certain things are expected. Shattered Memories came the closest to capturing the feel and spirit of the originals, but despite that, it is still not there.
Actually, i strongly disagree with you here. What is wrong with going to a game series expecting the same spirit to exist in each title? Each of the games made by Team Silent had the same feel and the same spirit to them. Homecoming didn't feel the same, didn't have the same spirit, and it blatantly violated rules that were well established in the Silent Hill universe. If I want a mediocre horror game, Homecoming can scratch that itch. If I want a Silent Hill game, Homecoming doesn't scratch the itch at all. When you use an established series name, certain things are expected. Shattered Memories came the closest to capturing the feel and spirit of the originals, but despite that, it is still not there.
^ well it is comments like that that make me question if these particular people actually played each iteretion of the series.
While Team Silent made games with a psychological horror that encourages a loss of sanity, the games had issues. Thru the course of almost ten years, they still could not develope a decent combat system, and they continued the exact same, tedious puzzle piece gameplay.
The sales of Silent Hill 3 and subsequest The Room only proved that even an Akira Yamouka soundtrack is not going to give the series a million units sold anymore.
While Team Silent made games with a psychological horror that encourages a loss of sanity, the games had issues. Thru the course of almost ten years, they still could not develope a decent combat system, and they continued the exact same, tedious puzzle piece gameplay.
The sales of Silent Hill 3 and subsequest The Room only proved that even an Akira Yamouka soundtrack is not going to give the series a million units sold anymore.
Silent Hill 4 isn't "bad" in terms of its story and subject matter, it's bad as a game. Terrible actually. It's an excercise in clunkily whacking ghosts in the head and stabbing them with spikes to make them stay whacked. The puzzles - usually the real meat of an SH experience - are stupid at best and non-existant at worst.
And the problem with Silent Hill as a franchise is not that entries try to be different. On the contrary, it's when we get Pyramid Head cameos and *classic enemies* that things truly fall apart. Nurses are the goombas of the franchise at this point, and familiarity the death knell to an unnerving, bizarre and fascinating game world.
If you're really into rust and ladies without faces I guess it'd be a bummer, but I think the best thing for the series is to let devs go wild with what they reckon Silent Hill means. Shattered Memories' main problem was that it wasn't particularly scary, but that was a game design misstep rather than anything offensively wrong with the world they'd built or the story they told.
And the problem with Silent Hill as a franchise is not that entries try to be different. On the contrary, it's when we get Pyramid Head cameos and *classic enemies* that things truly fall apart. Nurses are the goombas of the franchise at this point, and familiarity the death knell to an unnerving, bizarre and fascinating game world.
If you're really into rust and ladies without faces I guess it'd be a bummer, but I think the best thing for the series is to let devs go wild with what they reckon Silent Hill means. Shattered Memories' main problem was that it wasn't particularly scary, but that was a game design misstep rather than anything offensively wrong with the world they'd built or the story they told.
@ Teclo:
"In the earlier games you used a plank of wood and a steel pipe most of the time, in SH3 you suddenly have samurai swords, flame throwers, SMGs and - admittedly as an intentionally 4th-wall-breaking bonus - a magical girl costume complete with magical HEATHER BEAM."
Uhh, at no point did I come across those weapons (except maybe the sword and machine gun which never has any ammunition for it anyway) until after one playthrough, in which case you still don't really have a point. Your keyword there was BONUS. Silent Hill 1 had a crazy fucking laser gun once you completed it and a stupid Alien ending. Silent Hill 2 had a stupid Dog ending if you wanted it. I see nothing wrong with throwing in a few silly and interesting bonus weapons after you complete the game, after you've been scared and gone through all those unexpected moments for another playthrough.
SH3 scared the crap out of me. I never thought it was getting dumbed down at any point. The katana made things a bit easier I think, but I was never in a rush to get into close ranged fights where I would get my ass handed to me anyway. If I ever wanted to play the game again after I completed it, they better throw some stupid shit in there to keep it interesting as it's definitely not going to scare me on the same level again.
Your example of comparing FPS is extremely flawed when comparing the "dumbing down" and orientation of action between SH3 and Homecoming. Whilst I don't have a problem with Homecoming making the character (and enemies) more capable in combat, SH3 was the same game with the same combat as SH1 and 2, although they threw in a block button, a sword (useless in corridors anyway) and a few awesome extras after you finished the game proper.
At the start of the game, when you're in that blood stained theme park, in the dark with a pistol, machine gun and lots of other weapons and the ability to block attacks, I was still TERRIFIED. At no point did I feel empowered because I was playing as a little girl, the controls weren't made for balls out action, I didn't want to get up close and try to risk blocking the huge bloody monster's attacks and didn't for one second whip out the machine gun to run around on some "dumbed down" massacre. I wanted to get the fuck out of there.
SH3 was not dumbed down compared to previous games. You were not given a flamethrower and superhero abilities until you finished the game with little to no weapons that made it "dumbed down". You were given a block button, sure but that's not dumbing down as much as making the crappy close combat somewhat more tolerable. SH3 was awesome in that it had a great revenge story, a somewhat relatable, likable and believable character in a fucked up world relevant to the first game and Silent Hill mythos, an amazing and scary atmosphere AND some of the best and most interesting end of game bonuses which made replay value soar through the roof when compared with the last 2 games.
DENIED.
"In the earlier games you used a plank of wood and a steel pipe most of the time, in SH3 you suddenly have samurai swords, flame throwers, SMGs and - admittedly as an intentionally 4th-wall-breaking bonus - a magical girl costume complete with magical HEATHER BEAM."
Uhh, at no point did I come across those weapons (except maybe the sword and machine gun which never has any ammunition for it anyway) until after one playthrough, in which case you still don't really have a point. Your keyword there was BONUS. Silent Hill 1 had a crazy fucking laser gun once you completed it and a stupid Alien ending. Silent Hill 2 had a stupid Dog ending if you wanted it. I see nothing wrong with throwing in a few silly and interesting bonus weapons after you complete the game, after you've been scared and gone through all those unexpected moments for another playthrough.
SH3 scared the crap out of me. I never thought it was getting dumbed down at any point. The katana made things a bit easier I think, but I was never in a rush to get into close ranged fights where I would get my ass handed to me anyway. If I ever wanted to play the game again after I completed it, they better throw some stupid shit in there to keep it interesting as it's definitely not going to scare me on the same level again.
Your example of comparing FPS is extremely flawed when comparing the "dumbing down" and orientation of action between SH3 and Homecoming. Whilst I don't have a problem with Homecoming making the character (and enemies) more capable in combat, SH3 was the same game with the same combat as SH1 and 2, although they threw in a block button, a sword (useless in corridors anyway) and a few awesome extras after you finished the game proper.
At the start of the game, when you're in that blood stained theme park, in the dark with a pistol, machine gun and lots of other weapons and the ability to block attacks, I was still TERRIFIED. At no point did I feel empowered because I was playing as a little girl, the controls weren't made for balls out action, I didn't want to get up close and try to risk blocking the huge bloody monster's attacks and didn't for one second whip out the machine gun to run around on some "dumbed down" massacre. I wanted to get the fuck out of there.
SH3 was not dumbed down compared to previous games. You were not given a flamethrower and superhero abilities until you finished the game with little to no weapons that made it "dumbed down". You were given a block button, sure but that's not dumbing down as much as making the crappy close combat somewhat more tolerable. SH3 was awesome in that it had a great revenge story, a somewhat relatable, likable and believable character in a fucked up world relevant to the first game and Silent Hill mythos, an amazing and scary atmosphere AND some of the best and most interesting end of game bonuses which made replay value soar through the roof when compared with the last 2 games.
DENIED.
WTF?! I'm Tired of people badmouthing SH Homecoming, like its some kinda half assed game. Homecoming was one of my favorite games of 2008 and most definitely one of the best silent hill games. What was so non-silent hill about the atmosphere, huh..?? Shattered Memories was pure shit!!! yet i'm hearing more love for it coming from so-called silent hill fans, the very same fans bashing Homecoming.
Fans of well made games cant say that homecoming is a horrible game, well they could but they'd be mistaken. and i never heard any reason that made solid sense as to why Homecoming was so horrible a silent hill game. the gasmeplay was solid, the atmosphere was too silent hill-ish to be honest. The combat system was a fucking GODSEND to the series. Gameplay-wise, Homecoming was hands down the best silent hill game. So the fact that i can move and have my weapon at the ready AT THE SAME TIME to attack a monster is horrible. so that lame ass excuse of lackluster control to make the game scarier is whats really good..?? REALLY..?? Since when..??
The only thing i could see fans long time fans bening disappointed in homecoming is in the somewhat lack of complexity of the storyline ((atleast compared to the first three games in the series)), which is one of the strengths of the Silent hill franchise but it was still a very solid and well told, dare i say ENGAGING story!!! But thats debatable because silent hill is one of those games that noone , not even the character even knows whats goin on and theres alot of depth in the the storyline of homecoming that i think most fans probably didnt know until they looked it up on the net.
and alot of so called fans are butthurt over the cameo appeareance of Pyramid head and some production aesthetic nods to the 2006 film. and then there were some ridiculing of the graphics of Homecoming with most detractors stating that the graphics were last gen and that 2 and 3 actually LOOKED BETTER by comparison.. WOW.. thats like totally untrue.. i have ALL of the true silent hill games and i can say for a fact that SH2 & 3 while still looking very good to this day, they have nothing on the graphics of SH Homecoming. thats not to say Homecoming's graphics are among the best of this current gen's capabilities but it's still a nice looking game that most certainly looks like it belongs on the Xbox360.
The atmosphere and sound, another staple of the silent hill series ((as well as the main reason i fell in love with the franchise)) is pretty much among the BEST if not the best representation of how to do a silent hill game. Double Helix gets mad props for the work they put into making this game feel so scary and foreboding ..it looked like something right in league with the previous entries of the series. the sound might i add is one of composer Akira Yamaoka's finest works to date. he crafted a beautifully haunting and remarkably fitting score. the monsters were truly a sight to behold and more than did their job of creeping me the hell out. thats more than i can ever say about shitty ass SH shattered memories!! and believe me that game really shattered my memories as i try and forget about it every chance i get.
but to be fair there were some gripes i did have with silent hill homecoming and that was the fact that the game was too dark in alot of places in the game even with your light on. sometimes i thought i didnt have my light on and the display options were adjusted to peak settings. i also wished they went into deeper detail and character development with the various parents and children of the town as they greatly were just as important to understanding what was really going on within the story. oh and youalso had the series staple of backtracking ..fucking backtracking.. all the silent hill games have you back tracking ..siigh why is that..?? oh well
anyone that posts their dislikes of homecoming please be succinct in your reasoning because most of what i heard has been things that made me wonder if we were playing the same game or if they mistakenly mistook one SH entry for another. there were some glitch issues on the ps3 version as that version was slightly less polished than the 360 version. slightly. complaints of glitches and lack of story complexities were the only things that i can understand someone not liking a game. therwise i think most of the naysayers are talking outta their ass..
silent hill homecoming is one of the best and last true silent hill games we'll ever play
Fans of well made games cant say that homecoming is a horrible game, well they could but they'd be mistaken. and i never heard any reason that made solid sense as to why Homecoming was so horrible a silent hill game. the gasmeplay was solid, the atmosphere was too silent hill-ish to be honest. The combat system was a fucking GODSEND to the series. Gameplay-wise, Homecoming was hands down the best silent hill game. So the fact that i can move and have my weapon at the ready AT THE SAME TIME to attack a monster is horrible. so that lame ass excuse of lackluster control to make the game scarier is whats really good..?? REALLY..?? Since when..??
The only thing i could see fans long time fans bening disappointed in homecoming is in the somewhat lack of complexity of the storyline ((atleast compared to the first three games in the series)), which is one of the strengths of the Silent hill franchise but it was still a very solid and well told, dare i say ENGAGING story!!! But thats debatable because silent hill is one of those games that noone , not even the character even knows whats goin on and theres alot of depth in the the storyline of homecoming that i think most fans probably didnt know until they looked it up on the net.
and alot of so called fans are butthurt over the cameo appeareance of Pyramid head and some production aesthetic nods to the 2006 film. and then there were some ridiculing of the graphics of Homecoming with most detractors stating that the graphics were last gen and that 2 and 3 actually LOOKED BETTER by comparison.. WOW.. thats like totally untrue.. i have ALL of the true silent hill games and i can say for a fact that SH2 & 3 while still looking very good to this day, they have nothing on the graphics of SH Homecoming. thats not to say Homecoming's graphics are among the best of this current gen's capabilities but it's still a nice looking game that most certainly looks like it belongs on the Xbox360.
The atmosphere and sound, another staple of the silent hill series ((as well as the main reason i fell in love with the franchise)) is pretty much among the BEST if not the best representation of how to do a silent hill game. Double Helix gets mad props for the work they put into making this game feel so scary and foreboding ..it looked like something right in league with the previous entries of the series. the sound might i add is one of composer Akira Yamaoka's finest works to date. he crafted a beautifully haunting and remarkably fitting score. the monsters were truly a sight to behold and more than did their job of creeping me the hell out. thats more than i can ever say about shitty ass SH shattered memories!! and believe me that game really shattered my memories as i try and forget about it every chance i get.
but to be fair there were some gripes i did have with silent hill homecoming and that was the fact that the game was too dark in alot of places in the game even with your light on. sometimes i thought i didnt have my light on and the display options were adjusted to peak settings. i also wished they went into deeper detail and character development with the various parents and children of the town as they greatly were just as important to understanding what was really going on within the story. oh and youalso had the series staple of backtracking ..fucking backtracking.. all the silent hill games have you back tracking ..siigh why is that..?? oh well
anyone that posts their dislikes of homecoming please be succinct in your reasoning because most of what i heard has been things that made me wonder if we were playing the same game or if they mistakenly mistook one SH entry for another. there were some glitch issues on the ps3 version as that version was slightly less polished than the 360 version. slightly. complaints of glitches and lack of story complexities were the only things that i can understand someone not liking a game. therwise i think most of the naysayers are talking outta their ass..
silent hill homecoming is one of the best and last true silent hill games we'll ever play
This happens when Japanese publishers thinks a serie is to Japanese for western people to apeal. Altough I honestly don't dislike any game from the series the original trilogy still are my 3 favourite
I literally just finished Silent Hill: Shattered Memories on the Wii yesterday and must say I was impressed, the control scheme and it's variations depending on context is very good and the story is phenomenal, the closest character driven Silent Hill game to SH1/2 and to a lesser extent 3, don't get me wrong, SH3 was great but I feel it mostly relied on past iterations for help with the world, story, and characterization rather than standing on it's own like SH2, honestly, we haven't seen one like it since its inception, why? Silent Hill: Shattered Memories a tad more confined but the story is going along a similar style as SH2, but it definitely wasn't as dark or gory...or unnerving for that matter, but I must say it is going the right direction for the series IMO. It seems they'll be doing the same with Downpour, if I heard correctly they're are taking away combat again, which is odd because I saw a gun in the trailer...we'll see.
it's pretty obvious that Konami wants Silent Hill to be their Resident Evil. what they're missing is that the original SH games were loved because they were so much more subtly and psychologically terrifying than the lowest-common-denominator scares of the RE series.
So what about the crappy broken combat, lousy looking character models and lack of inverted camera control? Is that Konami's fault too?
@davydock: well you can find it at barnes $ nobles, borders and other fine retailers where books are sold!!! LOL!!!!
You know I was going to make some sort of snide comment about the guy's obviously going to shirk the blame off him and his team.. But the guys right.. It was all up to Konami to can Team Silent, I'm pretty sure they didn't go to Konami and say "oh no we don't want our job"..
I guess Konami's going to have to show a little support in one of its best series or its going to get overrun by its mistake not too.
Downpour looks good so far though.. I cant wait to see some gameplay vids for it.
I guess Konami's going to have to show a little support in one of its best series or its going to get overrun by its mistake not too.
Downpour looks good so far though.. I cant wait to see some gameplay vids for it.
You know though.. now That I think about it and read a few comments its pretty clear too that the people who made the games aren't blameless either.. I mean.. like someone else pointed out Double Helix is looking at this resume:
2008 - Silent Hill: Homecoming
2009 - G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
2010 - Front Mission Evolved
2008 - Silent Hill: Homecoming
2009 - G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
2010 - Front Mission Evolved
seein' my G-momz vagoo would scare me more than all the silent hills combined!! matter of fact thats my version of silent hill.. developed by team silent
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