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Hollenshead thinks piracy is hardware industry's 'dirty little secret' photo

It seems like whenever we talk PC gaming, piracy always enters into the conversation. There’s good reason for that according to id Software CEO Todd Hollenshead in an interview with gamesindustry.biz. According to Hollenshead, hardware manufacturers are perfectly fine with piracy because of the consumer’s ability to download whatever game they want and utilize it with new hardware that they buy.

I think that there's been this dirty little secret among hardware manufacturers, which is that the perception of free content - even if you're supposed to pay for it on PCs - is some sort hidden benefit that you get when you buy a PC, like a right to download music for free or a right to download pirated movies and games.

Hollenshead then goes on to point out that he doesn’t believe this to be a “conspiracy,” but likens it to an “expected benefit” from people buying new PCs. I’m not quite sure if I buy what Hollenshead is selling in this statement. Whenever I buy a new Macintosh I’m not thinking illegal copies of Diablo II or Nerverwinter Nights. Also, I haven’t exactly noticed any nefarious hardware ads that hint at what Hollenshead is saying.

What do you guys think? When you guys buy a new computer, do you instantly expect to download bigger and better pirated games? Did you buy a new computer to pirate a game like Crysis?








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manifest's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 07:17
manifest
maybe...just a little bit. just to see how it feels.
manifest's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 07:22
manifest
Actually... I built a new computer to play Age of Conan, which unfortunately is totally of my radar at the moment... (bring on the WAR). But I must admit that having a PC does afford user the chance to try before you buy through torrents and the like. make sure you actually like the game (demo it.) before you decide it's the right thing for you. Sadly, I doubt many people actually go and buy a legit copy of the game if they decide they like it, unless there's a multiplayer element to it that they feel like they're missing out on (see: CoD4)
AKK's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 07:28
AKK
I bought a new computer partially to be able to download more music (went from 74 GB of space to 750), and partially to play TF2. The former "illegally," the latter legally.

So... sort of?
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 07:40
JACK of No Trades
I takes a pretty computer savy person to rip games off of torrents. Some torrent need 3-4 different kinds of software just to download, unpack and install and alot of the times it doesn't pay off.
ajaxender's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 08:09
ajaxender
I made my computer to play crysis well. When it didnt (and unreasonably so; 8800gts, q6600 processor, 2gb ram, etc etc; so its not bad, especially for this time last year), i didnt buy it. Considering my flatmate has since bought it, i have no guilt over playing the single player without paying, even if it was a little early. And if i buy Warhead (which seems likely, given its lower price, and improvements), i dont care at all.

But for games in general... no, i dont make computers, for myself and friends, to pirate games. I make them to run whatever game (or any application, for that matter) nice and smoothly. It doesnt matter how we get our hands on the it... thats up to us, not the hardware.
Doomtrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 08:16
Doomtrain
First thing I do when I build a new computer is try out whatever the current graphics-whore game is. UT2k3, Far Cry, Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Crysis. I usually buy a hard copy of any game I really like, but if I download a game (which I do, a lot) and think, "I'm glad I didn't buy this", then I feel no guilt.
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 08:34
whormongr
I personally haven't bought a game for PC in a long time, I have played a few "pirated" games since, but not many and I wasn't a fan of any of them, so I never played them all of the way through- there hasn't been anything good for PC in a long time, that's why I bought a console- and the only game that someone gave me a pirated copy of in the last year or 2 that I played, I ended up buying when I got a console and that was portal.
zeroword's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 08:44
zeroword
I love the people who complain about video game piracy but download music and movies illegally.
Alasdair Duncan's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 08:57
Alasdair Duncan
I'm building a new PC next month to play games like Crysis, Cod4 and the Orange Box, none of which will run at anywhere near playable levels on my current PC. It's a shame that it's probably going to cost me about $1300 - 1500 for a cutting edge machine that will last a few years. But I do feel that there's plenty of quality PC games on the horizon to justify it.
deadrevenant's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 09:11
deadrevenant
"Did you buy a new computer to pirate a game like Crysis?"...

Yes, yes I did.

If it wasn't for the ability to pirate games, I would just stick to my consoles... all the power at a quarter of the price and hassel. But free? Can't argue with that, even with a morality... :P
GunSlap's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 09:21
GunSlap
I think essentially what he is getting at is the fact that software can be pirated, but how could you ever pirate the hardware that you require to run said software?
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 09:29
hpv
Brad Nicholson: Hate to break it to you, buddy, but he isn't talking about you mac users. He's talking about the people who buy hardware to run windows on.

And of COURSE he's right. Though he's leaving out the part the implicates himself. Part of the reason that people feel that they have a "right" to pirate these games is because the hardware required to run them is so fucking expensive. Like buying a mac, only you get decent video hardware and plenty of RAM.
hjd uk's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 09:46
hjd uk
I go PC because MACs are under supported, underpowered toys for poseurs. If MACs had all off the software released for it that a PC does it would get pirated too.
MrEeeds's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 10:17
MrEeeds
Some games I may have "acquired" for the PC, and I don't regret it, because they were crap. The games I know I want to keep and fully enjoy (online) I will buy. So I guess I contribute to both sides.
combatmedic's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 10:22
combatmedic
I love when all these game makers who have so much hype around their games see their sales compared to good games that are selling, and the very first thing they go to is "ZOMG PIRATES!"
What if your game isn't that great? Or people really just don't care about it as much as the game press does? I mean I was never excited about Crysis, and when it came out I was never going to buy it, but I DL it to try it out, hated it, and got rid of it.
But to answer your question, I update my computer every 6 months or so regardless of whats coming out... its a hobby.
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 10:30
DeusPayne
Just like how VCR consumers are expecting to tape shows illegally. And condom consumers are expecting to rape someone. And vaccuum consumers are expecting to dumb shit on their rugs.

Right.... just because you CAN do something with a product, doesn't mean that people are buying it for that purpose. Responsibility lies with the individual, not the products he uses to commit those acts.
Cube's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 11:24
Cube
hah ha nobody pirates stuff on mac because there is nothing on MAC worth anything.

there is tons of pirate photoshop for macs.

and people are pirating the mac OS out the ass because Apple made there macs PC's (and makes people think they are macs by adding there own lame OS and using parts for PC.)


The mac Os no runs on X86 based CPU's in PC now you can get a pirated hacked version of the MAC os that you can dual boot and run mac crap on your PC, if you must.



IF/when macs get anything worth anything Pirates will work at putting out and cracking mac software.
GeneralDisarray's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 12:00
GeneralDisarray
I bought a PC to pirate porn, obviously.
xenon's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 12:55
xenon
I don't know how much of a "dirty little secret" this is, but certainly hardware makers benefit from piracy. And in the case of the PC world, they don't even have the conflict of interests Sony had with the PSX/PS2.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/21/2008 18:38
Timmeh
Just wow.

Games developers are like all those people who blame video games for societies ills - always someone elses fault.
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