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@ BloomingEchoes
The fact that films like Sucker Punch/etc. exist is just proof that this way of thinking is such a part of the culture. I'm not saying, (nor do I think anyone of note is) saying that those types of things shouldn't exist - just that it's worth thinking about. The "jut let go" thing is absolutely fine and I love exploitation films. But there is a difference between balls-out crazy and hateful and offensive. The "anything goes" mentality is excellent but it needs - not censorship - but thought and consideration. Things aren't as black and white as people make them seem. Also: I don't find this example particularly offensive.
@Andre
You make some good points and I do think that there are dozens of cases where womens costumes in games/movies exist for the soul purpose of fulfilling some fetish for male viewers. The arguments in support of that kind of exploitation are usually stupid and resort to "libido exploitation", like you said, or "it's for the demographic". My point was that at least in this case they are making an EFFORT to make it fit in which is more that can be said for so many other franchises (*cough* Soul Calibur *cough). An effort is so much better than either self-censorship or going balls out and making it a visual orgy.
The fact that films like Sucker Punch/etc. exist is just proof that this way of thinking is such a part of the culture. I'm not saying, (nor do I think anyone of note is) saying that those types of things shouldn't exist - just that it's worth thinking about. The "jut let go" thing is absolutely fine and I love exploitation films. But there is a difference between balls-out crazy and hateful and offensive. The "anything goes" mentality is excellent but it needs - not censorship - but thought and consideration. Things aren't as black and white as people make them seem. Also: I don't find this example particularly offensive.
@Andre
You make some good points and I do think that there are dozens of cases where womens costumes in games/movies exist for the soul purpose of fulfilling some fetish for male viewers. The arguments in support of that kind of exploitation are usually stupid and resort to "libido exploitation", like you said, or "it's for the demographic". My point was that at least in this case they are making an EFFORT to make it fit in which is more that can be said for so many other franchises (*cough* Soul Calibur *cough). An effort is so much better than either self-censorship or going balls out and making it a visual orgy.
These developers just really need to stop paying attention to people's bitching. I cant stand people trying to be politically correct or crying foul over a game. If you dont like what you see, simple solution: Dont play it.
Women gaining confidence through sexuality, and using said confidence to eliminate their enemies. This happens in real life, you know.
@Qreq - They are making an effort, yes, after the shit hit the fan. That they thought this was a good idea in the first place makes me concerned that their attempts to fix it will make things even worse. Of course it's their call and it should continue to be, always, but I'd happily see the nunssassin idea thrown in a fucking trash bin rather than justified, unless they can think of some brilliant, absolutely ingenious justification.
Mind you, I'm not against the concept of what we see in that trailer. I find the EXECUTION of it atrocious and out-of-place, particularly for a series that is predominantly operatic in tone (with many touches of humor, sure, but not SAINTS ROW self-aware, campy, purposefully stupid humor). Killer nuns more concerned with how sexy they look for a camera than they are with the very deadly assassin they're out to kill -- in a trailer that, despite sexy nunssassins, seems to be directed with utmost seriousness and a heavy mood -- well, that feels like a step in a different, way stupider direction. And in an industry with sexism so rampant, it feels rather disheartening, too.
Mind you, I'm not against the concept of what we see in that trailer. I find the EXECUTION of it atrocious and out-of-place, particularly for a series that is predominantly operatic in tone (with many touches of humor, sure, but not SAINTS ROW self-aware, campy, purposefully stupid humor). Killer nuns more concerned with how sexy they look for a camera than they are with the very deadly assassin they're out to kill -- in a trailer that, despite sexy nunssassins, seems to be directed with utmost seriousness and a heavy mood -- well, that feels like a step in a different, way stupider direction. And in an industry with sexism so rampant, it feels rather disheartening, too.
Just when I thought this week wouldn't bring up one bullshit case of 'sexism' in gaming or touch 'feminist' issues... Just one fucking week...
When exactly did gamers become quivering pussies? As someone has already said, nobody gave a fuck with gun toting hot ass nurses showing up out of nowhere in Machete(or any other fucking thing in that awesome film...).
I seriously worry about this sub-culture. We're very vocal, and we're heard, but is that a good thing?
When exactly did gamers become quivering pussies? As someone has already said, nobody gave a fuck with gun toting hot ass nurses showing up out of nowhere in Machete(or any other fucking thing in that awesome film...).
I seriously worry about this sub-culture. We're very vocal, and we're heard, but is that a good thing?
@Maycausecancer
"As if they didn't know the trailer would get a negative reaction.
thats bullshit."
Why? Why SHOULD they have expected a knee-jerk OTT pussy whipped reaction from gamers? We've all seen worse things in fucking everything, I for one thought it was awesome. Stupid or course, but glorious in it's stupidity, and heavily tooled sex-nun assassins is just a fun thing to write/read/say out loud. I thought it was great for what it was.
Why should they have expected the internet to blow up? Why should they have anticipated that the gaming community is now completely fucking ridiculous in it's trumped up self important white knight bullshit?
"As if they didn't know the trailer would get a negative reaction.
thats bullshit."
Why? Why SHOULD they have expected a knee-jerk OTT pussy whipped reaction from gamers? We've all seen worse things in fucking everything, I for one thought it was awesome. Stupid or course, but glorious in it's stupidity, and heavily tooled sex-nun assassins is just a fun thing to write/read/say out loud. I thought it was great for what it was.
Why should they have expected the internet to blow up? Why should they have anticipated that the gaming community is now completely fucking ridiculous in it's trumped up self important white knight bullshit?
Considering we know virtually nothing about the back story, the characters and their role in the game world etc people are to quick to comment. It could be some punk faction dressed as nuns to kill a christian guy, after all, in previous games we have seen agent 47 holding a cross even going to confession, so perhaps it is ironic. We just don't know. So just wait untill the game is released and you've played it before you condemn or praise the game.
Also sucks about the voice actor beign shoved off. Voice actors for protagonists should not be changed as it can change the character.
Also sucks about the voice actor beign shoved off. Voice actors for protagonists should not be changed as it can change the character.
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