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I wondered when Lord Hirai would come forth and say that the Vita was actually right where they expected it to be. I'm surprised it took as long as it did, the "Vita sales are lagging" story was weeks ago, no?
In any case, nothing to see here. Lord Hirai is talking to the shareholders with this one, not us. Depending on how well the Vita does through the end of the year, I'd expect that many more of these "sate the shareholders" stories to drop. It's hard to imagine that another generation of a distant second place in the portable market is what they were actually expecting.
In any case, nothing to see here. Lord Hirai is talking to the shareholders with this one, not us. Depending on how well the Vita does through the end of the year, I'd expect that many more of these "sate the shareholders" stories to drop. It's hard to imagine that another generation of a distant second place in the portable market is what they were actually expecting.
lmao, the Vita sales are disaster. 3DS sales at the same time(30th june last year) exceeded 4.5mln consoles sold TO CUSTOMERS(Vita numbers - 2.2mln SHIPPED TO STORES), at the same price AND with shorter time on the market since it launched worldwide in february/march unlike Vita which launched long before christmas in japan.
Nice "Get your ass in gear, Sony" piece to go with the "Best PS3 Vita Games Ever" piece. My money's on Sony taking the same approach to the Vita as they did with PS3. Was kinda hoping that with the change in mgmt, this kinda thing would end, but...iiiiiiit's Sony!!
Bee Tee Dubz...did you call Greg Miller about that best Vita games piece?
Bee Tee Dubz...did you call Greg Miller about that best Vita games piece?
Wasn't the original original projection 16 million Vita's sold in the first year? I know they've revised their revised projections a couple of times but damn, Sony just keeps treating people like they're stupid!
If Sony can lock up literally ANY Monster Hunter game on Vita, it'll be hugely successful in Japan and that pretty much solves that problem right there. The West is a little more difficult though. The software library is alright, and getting better, but too many people are still satisfied with a small screen, no physical controls, and a software library largely made for casual gamers.
Price drop? Killer apps? Cheap memory cards? Old Playstation games? Who knows exactly. It'll be alright eventually. Sony just needs to get its shit together. At least it's moving in the right direction with Gamescom IMO.
Price drop? Killer apps? Cheap memory cards? Old Playstation games? Who knows exactly. It'll be alright eventually. Sony just needs to get its shit together. At least it's moving in the right direction with Gamescom IMO.
Maybe what he meant by the "some areas" comment isn't a literal geographical location, maybe it's something else?
Such as the area between the cashier and the customer exchanging the goods and money. I'd say that's a clear area where it's failing.
Such as the area between the cashier and the customer exchanging the goods and money. I'd say that's a clear area where it's failing.
Sales numbers for the Vita have been really fucking depressing and I'm not sure Sony can do much to turn them around. If they were smart they would hurry up on either a Gran Turismo or GOW title. Monster hunter wont be enough because you can now play it on the 3DS. Japan is far more interested in handhelds and part of the reason why the PSP did so well is because that was the only option for a handheld MH.
So... why is portable so important again? It seems like it only fragments the core gamer market. Sony would have been better served doubling down on PS3/4 and allowing second parties to just develop for mobile devices those ideas that don't work for consoles. Carrying Uncharted around in a fanny pack is beyond pointless.
The "dual buy" games are the only things that make sense from a consumer standpoint to justify carrying something other than your phone, and they make no sense from Sony's business end.
The "dual buy" games are the only things that make sense from a consumer standpoint to justify carrying something other than your phone, and they make no sense from Sony's business end.
Alright, I'll bite. This is something that had been bothering me for months now.
Why so positive about the vita, when you were so negative about the 3ds? You keep saying " I want it to succeed because it is such a great console" but from what I remember you were never quite so kind to the 3ds...
What's that all about?
Why so positive about the vita, when you were so negative about the 3ds? You keep saying " I want it to succeed because it is such a great console" but from what I remember you were never quite so kind to the 3ds...
What's that all about?
Ronin: I had the same reasons for the 3DS, actually - http://www.destructoid.com/criticizing-the-3ds-out-of-love-not-hate-206463.phtml
@kwikpwn and Joe Ess - they were expecting to sell 15 million PS3s and Vitas together, as I recall.
So even if we took that to mean 7.5 million Vitas, they're still about 5 million short with half a year to go.
@ctg - the problem is Nintendo locked down MH4 for the immediate future and when MH Tri 3G launched, lots of MH players made the jump to 3DS.
Think about it - it you could get MH, Pokemon and future Dragon Quest titles on 3DS, would you give Vita a second glance in Japan.
To date the biggest sale spikes Vita has enjoyed are from Persona 4 Golden and Ragnarok Odyssey. Certainly nice games but not long term killer apps.
So even if we took that to mean 7.5 million Vitas, they're still about 5 million short with half a year to go.
@ctg - the problem is Nintendo locked down MH4 for the immediate future and when MH Tri 3G launched, lots of MH players made the jump to 3DS.
Think about it - it you could get MH, Pokemon and future Dragon Quest titles on 3DS, would you give Vita a second glance in Japan.
To date the biggest sale spikes Vita has enjoyed are from Persona 4 Golden and Ragnarok Odyssey. Certainly nice games but not long term killer apps.
@TSP
They've changed their expectations so many times now that it's hard to keep track. I found what I think is the revised revision of the original original projections.
These called for 16 million combined PSP & Vita for fiscal 2013, of that number Harai expected the PSP to account for 6 million of the total 16 million.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-10-sony-earnings-call-reveals-worldwide-ps-vita-sales
They've changed their expectations so many times now that it's hard to keep track. I found what I think is the revised revision of the original original projections.
These called for 16 million combined PSP & Vita for fiscal 2013, of that number Harai expected the PSP to account for 6 million of the total 16 million.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-10-sony-earnings-call-reveals-worldwide-ps-vita-sales
It's fine, Sony will just replicate Nintendos 3DS approach and bolster sales by releasing quality 1st party titles.
Oh, hang on
Oh, hang on
... I actually read that back then, if I remember correctly...
...-_-;;;;
lol. ^_^;;
@ShA
Don't think that's gonna happen... Seth said himself something along the lines of "that ship has sailed"
Now, MH3G 3ds or P3rdG for PSP(not currently real... but wouldn't surprise me if it became reality) on the other hand...
...-_-;;;;
lol. ^_^;;
@ShA
Don't think that's gonna happen... Seth said himself something along the lines of "that ship has sailed"
Now, MH3G 3ds or P3rdG for PSP(not currently real... but wouldn't surprise me if it became reality) on the other hand...
Sony adjusted their sales expectation down to 12 million. It looks they're going to fall short of that even, looking at estimated monthly sales. Sony must be expecting, or hoping for, a good last quarter.
The article explains a lot, actually. Sony expected disappointment from the start and planned to maintain it.
It probably isn't doing too great anywhere, is what he means.
I was at the store the other day, fondling the Vita. It is a gorgeous machine and I would have bought it there and then if it weren't for the ridiculous prices of the games and the memory cards.
There is something wrong here. The Vita costs less than the iPod Touch, and the latter is a piece of crap compared to the Vita. . .
They really ought to cut down the prices on games and mem cards and make their money by upping the price of the hardware a little...
They should hire me for street-level marketing advice.
I was at the store the other day, fondling the Vita. It is a gorgeous machine and I would have bought it there and then if it weren't for the ridiculous prices of the games and the memory cards.
There is something wrong here. The Vita costs less than the iPod Touch, and the latter is a piece of crap compared to the Vita. . .
They really ought to cut down the prices on games and mem cards and make their money by upping the price of the hardware a little...
They should hire me for street-level marketing advice.
All in all the vita isn't really that bad the doomsayers like to call it out everytime there is a minor flaw I bought mine back when it first came out and don't have any regrets it's a wonderful machine just needs time and support.
So have they gone back to their numbers, and set some more reasonable expectations. Because I mean I love you Sony, but really, who was the crazy bastard at the office who thought the Vita was gonna sell 16 mil this year?? That was just silly.
@The Silent Protagonist
To my knowledge, it hasn't been completely clarified as to what *type* of exclusivity Monster Hunter 4 is under. We don't of it's timed, permanent, or just for this *version* of MH4. Even if it's the "permanent", if this console generation has taught us anything, what game publishers say one day isn't necessarily the truth the next. Ie: GTA IV DLC, LA Noire, Unreal Tournament 3, Final Fantasy XIII, etc.
Even still, the 20 million PSPs that have been sold in Japan and the 12 million copies of Monster Hunter that have been sold for it lead me to believe there's still a pretty strong installed base ready for a new MH title on Sony's next portable system. Pokemon and Dragon Quest aren't really what they used to be. Capcom basically owns Japan at this point, last I checked.
I'm not saying I disagree with you completely. The 3DS is in a great spot in Japan with MH 3G, but I don't think it'll eat into Vita sales *that* much in Japan if they can lock up literally any Monster Hunter game, even another MH3 re-release.
I mean, rah rah rah fuck you rah rah you are so wrong kid rah rah fuck jim sterling teh bias rah rah.
Sorry about that. I'm not allowed to have civilized conversations on Destructoid anymore. Apparently all I do on this site is attack people. Or something. -_-
To my knowledge, it hasn't been completely clarified as to what *type* of exclusivity Monster Hunter 4 is under. We don't of it's timed, permanent, or just for this *version* of MH4. Even if it's the "permanent", if this console generation has taught us anything, what game publishers say one day isn't necessarily the truth the next. Ie: GTA IV DLC, LA Noire, Unreal Tournament 3, Final Fantasy XIII, etc.
Even still, the 20 million PSPs that have been sold in Japan and the 12 million copies of Monster Hunter that have been sold for it lead me to believe there's still a pretty strong installed base ready for a new MH title on Sony's next portable system. Pokemon and Dragon Quest aren't really what they used to be. Capcom basically owns Japan at this point, last I checked.
I'm not saying I disagree with you completely. The 3DS is in a great spot in Japan with MH 3G, but I don't think it'll eat into Vita sales *that* much in Japan if they can lock up literally any Monster Hunter game, even another MH3 re-release.
I mean, rah rah rah fuck you rah rah you are so wrong kid rah rah fuck jim sterling teh bias rah rah.
Sorry about that. I'm not allowed to have civilized conversations on Destructoid anymore. Apparently all I do on this site is attack people. Or something. -_-
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