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I just wonder how much of all this mess is due to Kutaragi thinking that all the new technology was going to come in a lot cheaper.
If you can't cut the price without losing 10 games worth of profits per system, your only realistic option is to build value by hyping features.
If you can't cut the price without losing 10 games worth of profits per system, your only realistic option is to build value by hyping features.
Yeah, I think Kaz speaks the truth on that one as well. Quit bitching. We know the games still aren't there. It's old. We get it.
A little research is a good thing. Hollywood in hi def is a blu-ray fan site. Why wouldn't he talk about blu-ray in an interview with them? And here's a shocker, sony makes home theater equipment and game systems. So why is it so baffling that the PS3 is pretty good at both?
A little research is a good thing. Hollywood in hi def is a blu-ray fan site. Why wouldn't he talk about blu-ray in an interview with them? And here's a shocker, sony makes home theater equipment and game systems. So why is it so baffling that the PS3 is pretty good at both?
Do non fanboys really give a shit about Ratchet and Clank and Little Big Planet?
Little Big Planet looks cool, but I'd never touch that. I'm just too lazy to be making levels.
Little Big Planet looks cool, but I'd never touch that. I'm just too lazy to be making levels.
Great, my Wii is gonna get crucified.
But wait! In 3 days it'll resurrect with HD and a new Kid Icarus!
But wait! In 3 days it'll resurrect with HD and a new Kid Icarus!
the problem with the ps3 isnt so much the price-all those features for only $600 when a dedicated blu-ray player is around $1000- as it is the fact that the games out suck ass with no graphical advantages over the 360 even though its the most powerful console on the market lets wait till dmc4 ff13 gt5 and some of the other exclusives showing off the power of the ps3 come out before writing off the ps3 another reason its doing so bad is sony pushed it out the door to compete with the 360 which i think most people would agree was stupid sony couldve waited another year to build up a decent game base and allow the price of technology to come down a bit im a sony fanboy but they really dropped the ball on this one so for now i play the 360 the wii is cool just not for me
This Roman Empire analogy has some serious legs. Augustus Caesar fixed Rome's eastern boundary at the Danube River, believing the empire would collapse in upon itself should its borders become too vast. And just look what happened when they tried to expand further.
In my book, USD $399 = Danube.
In my book, USD $399 = Danube.
Dear Kaz:
When your games start looking and playing leaps and bounds better than 360 games, I will believe the PS3 is the more powerful system. Til then, kindly STFU.
-Us3d ta b3
When your games start looking and playing leaps and bounds better than 360 games, I will believe the PS3 is the more powerful system. Til then, kindly STFU.
-Us3d ta b3
I'm sure part of Resistance's 16GB size was just inefficient coding, since I didn't see anything really special in that game.
Colette,
You've compared Hirai's comment on the power of the PS3 with Sony's attitude towards gamers, and unfortunately, I don't think that can really be supported here. His conversation piece is strictly on the power of the PS3, and the perception of that power. As a result, your article comes off a little like a thread-jack in a forum, where you're just trying to steer the conversation off topic.
You can obviously write well, but I think your post shows some really strong bias. As a reader, that's a bit of a put-off for me.
You've compared Hirai's comment on the power of the PS3 with Sony's attitude towards gamers, and unfortunately, I don't think that can really be supported here. His conversation piece is strictly on the power of the PS3, and the perception of that power. As a result, your article comes off a little like a thread-jack in a forum, where you're just trying to steer the conversation off topic.
You can obviously write well, but I think your post shows some really strong bias. As a reader, that's a bit of a put-off for me.
I have to sort of agree with kurosau.
The first thing that comes to my mind is that sony corporate would have liked to get the ps3 launch to this date and not a year before.
It was a rushed release.
Now the system obviously has a lot of potential and lacks of all the 360 hardware problems that have stained the life of that console.
The first thing that comes to my mind is that sony corporate would have liked to get the ps3 launch to this date and not a year before.
It was a rushed release.
Now the system obviously has a lot of potential and lacks of all the 360 hardware problems that have stained the life of that console.
i'm so sick of blog entries like these. sony did nothing wrong. think about inflation. i'm so sick of everyone thinking that consoles should cost the same as they did 10 years or 20 years ago. stupid. gas is so expensive, so is food now. why do people not take inflation into account with consoles? stupidity. thats why.
i'm honestly, what is 599 now, compared to what it was when the ps2 or ps1 launched? think about it. seriously..
i'm honestly, what is 599 now, compared to what it was when the ps2 or ps1 launched? think about it. seriously..
For the PS2 (North American launch: Oct 2000/ Price: $300): "What cost $300 in 2000 would cost $351.26 in 2006."
For the PS1 (North American Launch: Sept. 1995/ Price: $300): "What cost $300 in 1995 would cost $393.53 in 2006."
Going backwards: "What cost $600 in 2006 would cost $457.40 in 1995." What cost $600 in 2006 would cost $512.44 in 2000.
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation
http://www.westegg.com/inflation/
Perhaps you're the one that needs to think about it. Moron. Before you say "DUR $450 CLOSE 2 360 LAUNCH PRICE DURRRR."
"What cost $400 in 2005 would cost $315.30 in 1995." (In other words, the 360's launch price now would cost the same as a PS1 at its launch).
So yeah basically, $600 is unreasonable for a games console that barely has any games, especially when its competitors are within the reasonable price range for a games console.
For the PS1 (North American Launch: Sept. 1995/ Price: $300): "What cost $300 in 1995 would cost $393.53 in 2006."
Going backwards: "What cost $600 in 2006 would cost $457.40 in 1995." What cost $600 in 2006 would cost $512.44 in 2000.
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation
http://www.westegg.com/inflation/
Perhaps you're the one that needs to think about it. Moron. Before you say "DUR $450 CLOSE 2 360 LAUNCH PRICE DURRRR."
"What cost $400 in 2005 would cost $315.30 in 1995." (In other words, the 360's launch price now would cost the same as a PS1 at its launch).
So yeah basically, $600 is unreasonable for a games console that barely has any games, especially when its competitors are within the reasonable price range for a games console.
What did everyone expect him to say? That the PS3 is just as powerful as the 360? That he is sorry for Sony's mishandling of their new system? He works for Sony and of course he will praise the system no matter what state of affairs it is in. Delusions of grandeur, maybe. But, if someone is waiting for some kind of big Sony apology keep fucking dreaming. There are titles coming up for the system that are definatly going to draw attention to it, Ratchet and Clank, Littel Big Planet, Metal Gear, Grand Turismo, no matter what your personal taste in these types of games are or how firmly your lips are wrapped around Master Cheif's little dick you can't deny that each title for what it is looks completly awesome.
"There are titles coming up for the system that are definatly going to draw attention to it, Ratchet and Clank, Littel Big Planet, Metal Gear, Grand Turismo, no matter what your personal taste in these types of games are or how firmly your lips are wrapped around Master Cheif's little dick you can't deny that each title for what it is looks completly awesome."
Uh.. Ok. Why do you assume that the only people that dislike the PS3 are Halo 3 fans? And why do you assume that everyone must like those 4 games despite their personal taste? Gran Turismo is boring (but only because I find racing sims to be boring), Ratchet and Clank does not interest me, and neither does Little Big Planet. The only game that's interesting to me is Metal Gear, but I highly doubt I'm going to shell out $500 for a console with only one interesting game.
I don't see what's keeping me from saying each and every title you just mentioned are completely awesome. Will these titles draw attention from others? Probably. But why should I give a fuck? If those games don't appeal to me, then I don't see why I should give the PS3 props just because it appeals to others. Only a fanboy would care about how a console or game is doing on a general level, because only fanboys think that their own personal opinion should be shared by everyone.
Uh.. Ok. Why do you assume that the only people that dislike the PS3 are Halo 3 fans? And why do you assume that everyone must like those 4 games despite their personal taste? Gran Turismo is boring (but only because I find racing sims to be boring), Ratchet and Clank does not interest me, and neither does Little Big Planet. The only game that's interesting to me is Metal Gear, but I highly doubt I'm going to shell out $500 for a console with only one interesting game.
I don't see what's keeping me from saying each and every title you just mentioned are completely awesome. Will these titles draw attention from others? Probably. But why should I give a fuck? If those games don't appeal to me, then I don't see why I should give the PS3 props just because it appeals to others. Only a fanboy would care about how a console or game is doing on a general level, because only fanboys think that their own personal opinion should be shared by everyone.
vexed alex:
I could be asking the same thing about PUH-lenty of games out there on the Wii and the 360, so don't go there.
I could be asking the same thing about PUH-lenty of games out there on the Wii and the 360, so don't go there.
Well I don't really see why you're putting me into it, but ok...
Why are you mentioning the 360 and Wii? Vexed Alex wasn't comparing anything (and neither was I in my own post). All he commented on were the lack of interesting games for the PS3. Go ahead and ask the same question about Wii and 360 games, I don't see how it should affect the argument about the PS3.
Why are you mentioning the 360 and Wii? Vexed Alex wasn't comparing anything (and neither was I in my own post). All he commented on were the lack of interesting games for the PS3. Go ahead and ask the same question about Wii and 360 games, I don't see how it should affect the argument about the PS3.
"And why do you assume that everyone must like those 4 games despite their personal taste? Gran Turismo is boring (but only because I find racing sims to be boring), Ratchet and Clank does not interest me, and neither does Little Big Planet. The only game that's interesting to me is Metal Gear, but I highly doubt I'm going to shell out $500 for a console with only one interesting game."
Then don't get it. For those who are fans of the types of games I listed, and haven't gotten the system yet, they might make you want to get it. If you aren't a fan of any of them then so be it, don't buy it. And the Halo comment was mostly meant as a joke and not to be taken seriously. Of those I listed only 2 really interest me, Metal Gear, and Turismo, with Ratchet and Clank still being a possibility. Those and Killzone are the ones I'm really looking forward too.
Then don't get it. For those who are fans of the types of games I listed, and haven't gotten the system yet, they might make you want to get it. If you aren't a fan of any of them then so be it, don't buy it. And the Halo comment was mostly meant as a joke and not to be taken seriously. Of those I listed only 2 really interest me, Metal Gear, and Turismo, with Ratchet and Clank still being a possibility. Those and Killzone are the ones I'm really looking forward too.
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