I am aware that Ps3's launch was less than steller but that article was poorly written and in no regards a professional or intellectual criticism of the launch. It sounded like Time just hired a fanboy to write the article so they could jump on the bandwagon and hate on the Ps3.

Oh my God, Summa. The author of that article MUST BE A NINTENDO FANBOY RIGHT?

Nick, you have to learn this sooner or later. Everyone talks like that, not just <insert age less than 20> year old boys.

Even then, you're forgetting <insert age less than 20> year old girls.

Rob that picture is so, so you.

@ Tempus, they really nailed the problems that Sony has been having in general, and avoided sounding fanboyish like this article has, so I found it a good read. They didn't say why the laptop batteries were recalled though, so that was a little odd to me (they were exploding).

God damn, that was just plain mean.

They deserve all the bad press they get after killing lik-sang.

Sony's arrogance is the main reason for all the hatred. Being just a little humble goes a long way

lol@Niero

The comments by time were mean. Period.

However, they were supposed to be. The damn article is called,

"5 Things That Went From Buzz to Bust"

We certainly can't argue the validity of the inclusion of the PS3 in a list such as this.

The only thing at issue is the wording. The article gains a little legitimacy by the fact that they pretty much slam each of the 5 entrants.

They are basically making a list of shit they (TIME) were guilty of overhyping initially that didn't live up to their own hype. It's almost an apology of sorts depending on how you read it.

"yes dear reader, we apologize for hyping up all this shit that ended up totally sucking. Consider this our correction."

In the process they took a little immaturish poke at the ones that went "poop".

Mean? Yes. Hate? Not so much. I really doubt they HATE Bode Miller any more than they hate the PS3. They are just piling on the same way they did when the PS3 was the cats meow a year ago. TIME = BANDWAGON

All of you ps3 fans focus on the fact that the article is poorly written. Who the fuck cares? I don't think the writer could come up with any better words to describe how much sony has fucked up and much much they continue to fuck up. It's a joke really, and if you can't see that then go waste your money on a ps3 (pick up the next gen title Gundam with it). Be honest here, the launch was terrible, with terrible games. I've seen resistance, looks about as good single player as halo, and multiplayer, don't even try it. Anyways these are my 2 cents, im not a fanboy of any console, i haven't picked any new one up, but at this point the wii is a Gimmick and the ps3, is well i don't even know what to call it.

The whole article seems to be just a little piece to give a very general explaination of each of the 5 subjects. The article was not supposed to be an in depth review of the faults Sony made and give explainations as to why they happend. If it was in the magazine, it would be one of those one page articles and not the cover page story.

I'm surprised how offended people here became just because it didn't make a 5 page article on the facts. There are also a lot of accusations of the author being a fanboy but the article sounds like he is more disappointed then flat out hating the PS3 since he sources the Wii's name in ridicule. The article seems very true as to why I didn't buy one; costs, low availablity, and no good games as of yet.

*edit*Sorry made some bad grammer and spelling errors XP*edit*

I just think that's how the article was supposed to read.

Is Time Mag goin to The Haters Ball this year?

I don't know if they're really hating on it, I just think that they may have had really high hopes for a $500 console (as they should've -- for $500 it had better be the best gaming experience, hands down).

I don't think anyone can reasonably say that they're not feeling a little bit let down by Sony. A $350 BR-free console would've won them a lot more love.

The thing that people keep ignoring is that the PS3 is a really good game system with a very strong devloper backing 1st and 3rd party.

For all the touting that the XBOX360 is easier to program for the blatant superiority that should go along with that is missing.

I spend far more time watching dvd's on my ps2 than I do playing games. I purched a HD capable TV and have no HD source. With HD TV being the #1 consumer electronic purchace this year there will be a strong demand for HD content, not just games.



All of the issues so far are based on the fact that people can't buy the ps3 because they can't find one or because they can't afford it. Otherwise no one would be talking about it. There are plenty of overpriced items of limited value in the world,many made by Sony, but they don't get DUGG every day. People really want the system.

Sony priced their unit correctly. As noted by the ebay sales people are willing to pay the retail price but not much more.

At this point if Sony wasn't hogging all the press people would really be wondering what is going on at MS. Basically they make the 1st gen PS2 launch look like a rousing sucess.
The 360 has a 90day limited warranty because it has very poor manfacturing standards. The patches are buggy, the addons expensive and buggy. They just have a high failure rate.

I haevn't heard of any such issues with the PS3. I'm sure we need to give it more time but it seems to be a well built machine.

This generation is what ever is selling THIS month. the ps2 sold like crazy in November.

Wii outsells the PS3 but sony is still selling 600+k ps2's.

You lose the lead when you no longer sell the most units, plain and simple.

The Time 'article' was pretty damming but also fast and loose with fact. You could conclude from reading just that that SONY now sells the fewest number of gaming systems.

PS2 may be 'last gen' but so are the wii graphics. This generation is defined by the previous months sales.

Hey Joseph,

If you are so hot to trot out your sales numbers, you may want to include the gamecube and GBA numbers in your comments. Oh wait, then you would't be able to say Sony is outselling Nintendo. Never mind. You better continue to ignore reality, lest your argument disappear completely.

And as far as the sweet 1st and 3rd party development on the PS3, please show me. Sure there are a lot of devs saying they support the platform but until actual games hit the streets, that support means dick, and so far it has not translated into great games. You can't expect people to stay excited about an overprices game console with FUTURE support.
People buy when they see a game they want. Sony would do well to remember that.

How many gba's or gamecubes were sold last month? I'm only paying attention to last months sales not entire life. If it was then yes, Nintendo for the win.

Right now Sony seems to be in the sweet spot. It has the most developer support, largest market and the most unit sales, with the PS2 along with the biggest price advantage. It also has the high end with the newest high end machine. They can ride the PS2 until enough people make the move to the PS3. That really wasn't clear until nintendo announced the death of the gamecube. Somwhere in Japan.

Subnet: BTW do you have the last month sales figures for the GBA and gamecube?
And
it WAS soooooooooooo *cute* that you tried to trot out the whole you need to ignore facts thing. You are just too adorable. You know I could be "gasp" wrong and you could have brought "gasp" facts to show that.


The console seems rightly priced for now. The price is high but they can only make a few hudred tho. IF they were $100 each then it would do not good. There would still be too few and they would be on ebay for $7-800.


Milofo-
I read your piece and I really didn't agree. The TIMES is undergoing a 'restructuring' to move at 'internet speed.' So instead of a well written piece you get a rehash of the top digg comments. I could have hung with your argument until the author started talking about programming difficulity.

Yeah, I'm adorable. It goes nicely with being right.
;)

Yes, I had the GBA and Cube numbers. I just thought it was incumbent upon you to provide them since YOUR argument was solely based on sales numbers. If I had been the one to make your argument I would have felt compelled to provide all the numbers, not just the ones that made my case look good.

And yeah Milofo, I read your post, but I was so distraught by your grammatical errors I couldn't bear to read further.

Just kidding. I actually didn't even notice them. I thought you just double posted. My bad.

How did sony blow a huge lead? The number one system for sales this holiday season was a PS2. Wii is great for its target market... LITTLE KIDS!. I gave mine to my little sister. Its really retarted to swing a racket for more than 20 mins. Not to mention games have to be made by first party developers to be good. Marvel Ultimate Allance for Wii sucks... all 3rd party games not designed around its controller won't be good. Oh and did someone say microsoft makes a game system?

but hate is a powerful word it would be wiser to say.....
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