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Hey, dickheads! Left 4 Dead is NOT Halo photo

Like many members of the Destructoid staff, I am finding constant enjoyment from Left 4 Dead. While it's not a game of the year contender for me, I certainly can't deny that it's a lot of fun, and one of the best co-op experiences I've ever played.

Unfortunately, I don't PC game. I've just never been comfortable with a mouse and keyboard setup when I game, even when it comes to first person shooters. As such, I bought the Xbox 360 version of Left 4 Dead and have, on the whole, been enjoying the title non-stop.

That is, until the day YOU assholes discovered it. I'm talking to you, the generic, uninteresting, stereotypical moron who ends up polluting every Xbox Live game with your Halo-drenched presence. The complete dickhead who makes it his ambition to turn Xbox Live into the inner city basketball court he's too much of a pussy to hang out at in real life. 

Xbox Live players, be warned -- Left 4 Dead is not Halo.

Let me explain this for you in a way you might understand: Imagine if Halo was NOT about calling each other "fag" and you actually had to help each other to win. I know the idea of co-operating with another human being is difficult to conceive for socially retarded fucknuts like you, but do try and have an imagination for once in your life. If your beer-addled redneck brain can conjure up this picture, then you're partway to realizing what Left 4 Dead is all about.

Whether you are playing Campaign or Versus, the idea of L4D is to work as a team. Mutual survival is key, and if you let one of your members die, then you are at an instant disadvantage. Team kills, abandoning fellow survivors, wasting your time shouting obscenities on your headset -- that is not how you win at Left 4 Dead. The early game adopters actually had this apparently difficult concept figured out, but it now it seems like all the pricks have discovered this game and are attempting to devolve it into the puerile garbage they're more comfortable with.

Sure, it might seem like fun to use the forced friendly fire to "screw over" another player, but if you're shooting your own teammates, you're basically shooting yourself. I tried playing L4D yesterday, and every single round of versus I played was full of selfish morons who either shot their team members and ran away laughing, or refused to help those caught by special infected. 

Inevitably, the selfish would be next to die.

You are a fucking moron if you think that you can turn Left 4 Dead into just another shooter, and that's the problem with the game on Xbox Live. Most Live players are so devoid of original thought that they cannot begin to comprehend a game that isn't a straight deathmatch, and are trying to turn other videogames into just another round of Halo. The "people" I address seem unable to grasp the idea that you don't play Left 4 Dead this way. The very fact that you mongs try to survive after decimating the rest of the team, so confident that one man can take on an army of zombies, is rather pathetic. You are not Master Chief. Zombies can and will annihilate you.

I blame myself, almost. I should know by now that you people are a ludicrous self parody, as predictable as you are numerous. But even a dog can learn things with enough training. Why can't you creatures -- who claim to be human -- do the same? 

You don't even have to read the manual to work out how Left 4 Dead's versus mode works. If you're playing as survivors, then every single hit that an enemy player lands on you is a point for that opponent. Yet you are too busy thinking about individual "glory" that you will happily let your own team dangle from Smoker tongues or get raped to shittery by a Hunter, so long as YOU get to the safehouse, like it's a fucking race. Of course, if you DO survive long enough to get to a safehouse on your own -- something I am yet to see -- you naturally lose anyway because you get more points for having all survivors make it to the end. I can only assume that, the more you lose, the more you actually THINK you are winning. You're so fucking stupid.

The gameplay is so easy to grasp that even fucking Forrest fucking Gump could fucking do it. But you can't manage it. You cannot understand what a fucking trainable could comprehend.  

This is something I have noticed with all games on Xbox Live. While I am not denying that PC gaming has its fair share of griefers and disrupters, there is something about console gaming that seems to draw them out in droves, like a pipe bomb does to a mass of infected. My very first game of Halo was a shocker, as I found myself muting every single player on there for some idiotic statement or other. It's a wretched hive of scum and villainy, and all you who participate don't even realize how retarded you sound.

The worst part is that you can't just stick to Halo with all the other fratboys and hicks and self-declared "niggaz". Whether you're screaming "Go play Viva Piñata" in Gears of War or declaring someone to be a "nigger faggot" in Call of Duty, the very fact that you try and turn EVERY Xbox 360 game into a Halo experience, even if everyone else in the game is uninterested in your bullshit, is laughably pitiful. The very fact that you try so hard to recreate the Bungie experience marks you out as a truly pathetic individual.  

So that's what you've turned Left 4 Dead into on the Xbox 360. Yet ANOTHER forum for you to grief each other and hurl playground insults around. Because having one game to do that in just wasn't enough.  

Well done, cunts.


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Ninjasnake's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 18:48
Ninjasnake
Yeah I hate those people, they completely ruin games like L4D and Gears online for me since they are all about team play but they just Love to go off by themselves and get pissed at YOU when your the one that wanted to stay and help the team.
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 18:51
Hamza CTZ Aziz
Hey ass, don't fucking lump all of us in the same camp. I like Halo, I have fun in Halo. Yeah, there are assholes in the game and I only have fun when I play with my friends. It's not Halo, it's the fucking Internet. Every game has douchebags in the game that get off on fucking with you. This shit started in Counter Strike.

Try playing with friends instead. Shit.
taumpytears's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 18:53
taumpytears
Ha Hamza is pissed now. And Halo still sucks.
Redzie's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 18:54
Redzie
This why I've haven't bothered to renew my Live account in almost half a year. What's really hilarious is how Microsoft denies the existance of such pricks as long as those said pricks hand them money, OH CAPITALISM you sly dog...
Technophile's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 18:54
Technophile
Ah, now that is a triple-A rant right there. Good show Jim and I agree wholeheartedly.
thisissami's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 18:54
thisissami
is it just me or does the PSN have a much more mature user group? i can't say i've played too many games online (thus far only COD4, TF2, and LittleBigPlanet), but I've only dealt with one or two people like that in the entire time (at least 40-50 hours altogether)...
ThunderHeartXI's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 18:55
ThunderHeartXI
1 ON 1 FAGGOT.
Redzie's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 18:55
Redzie
@Thisissami
Its just those immature fucks cant afford a headset unless their mommy buys it for them.
thisissami's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:01
thisissami
@redzie

doesn't the same apply to XBL? i feel like it would be a relatively similar proportion of immature fucks...
Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:01
Neonie
I'm with Hamza on this one. Halo is not the target here.
Rainbowblack's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:04
Rainbowblack
I fired up L4D today after not having played for at least two weeks, and THAT was the first thing I noticed Jim, notsomuch with the name calling, but the gung-ho additude these asses carry, two weeks ago PLAYERS DUCKED so that their teammates behind them could shoot. after trying to get through the hospital on advanced about 6 times I gave up.

I'm trading this in for GoW2 soon

goodbye L4D you were awesome while you lasted
raisedmaze's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:06
raisedmaze
Death by gonorrhea of the throat to the foul-mouthed online rabble!
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:06
killias2
The PC version ain't so bad. You get newbs a fair amount, but you only get a true prick like once every couple games.. and they usually get kicked pretty quick.
Zombutler's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:07
Zombutler
I <3 U JIM
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:07
tazarthayoot
Questions for Sterling:

1) Why do you play with random people?

2) Why don't you play with people on your friends list?

3) How many times have I invited you to play with me and my party?

4) How many times have you ignored said invite?
gonzo666's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:08
gonzo666
you seriously write the worst articles
Unicorn's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:09
Unicorn
since when do livejournal-esque pity/bitch posts make the frontpage of D-toid?
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:12
Daxelman
I will admit.
Kinda hard to Race in Burnout when;

You're racing with people from a different country.

You're racing with an angry Englishman.

You're racing with a couple of nice sounding adults that just randomly start talking about marriage and sex.

or,

You're racing against two kids, both of which who live in the same house, each kid having their own PS3, and they're arguing about Trophy's.

I'd just like people to either to talk about the game, small happenings in daily life, or nothing at all.
ShadowThatWalks's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:13
ShadowThatWalks
Now Jim, if the game upsets you that bad.... why play it? You know there is something called the outside with trees, birds, and lots and lots of pretty girls. I agree with you though, there are a lot of pricks on Halo, but I still like it. I couldn't help but feel as though you were calling me out....you just talked so much shit about halo......I just need some time to think man.......
Superfluous Moniker's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:13
Superfluous Moniker
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/]Penny Arcade said it best, as usual. Although in practice it tends to be thirteen year olds.

I think these kids will eventually learn to play like non morons / get bored and quit, but they will just be replaced by others, thus ensuring their ubiquity for all time.
sexycommando's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:13
sexycommando
Unfortunately, I don't PC game. I've just never been comfortable with a mouse and keyboard setup when I game, even when it comes to first person shooters. As such, I bought the Xbox 360 version of Left 4 Dead

FAIL
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:17
Mxyzptlk
lol, Public Matches. I filled up my friend list with Dtoiders for a reason. The only time public matches are worthwhile in L4D is when you have three friends available who want to play versus. Start a Friends-Only Match, get your people on the same team, and open it up to public. Since there's a 99.95% chance the other four random players will not work together, you can steamroll over them. Cheap, but satisfying.
The Young Scot's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:18
The Young Scot
I never play with randoms, I only play with people from my friends list (which is almost all people from Dtoid)

I'd recommend you do the same Jim!
eboku01's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:18
eboku01
Halo is not the target of the rant, the immature average Xbox Live player is.

And I fully agree with Jim on everything but the mouse and keyboard bit
Zombutler's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:19
Zombutler
It smells like an eternity's child review in here
Unicorn's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:20
Unicorn
@ heretic

facepalm.jpg

'tis a shame, i suppose.
ZekeThePlumber's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:20
ZekeThePlumber
I call this the "Dane Cook Effect," the only thing worse than a subject are the fans of said subject.
CronosBlade's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:22
CronosBlade
Damn Jim. Come play with us. If anything a team of 4 TOID vs a team of randoms always is great for a laugh. Top it off by being in party mode so we don't even have to hear anyone else :D

Also Hamza and Tazar are right.
gitrooman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:22
gitrooman
"That is, until the day YOU assholes discovered it. I'm talking to you, the generic, uninteresting, stereotypical moron who ends up polluting every Xbox Live game with your Halo-drenched presence. The complete dickhead who makes it his ambition to turn Xbox Live into the inner city basketball court he's too much of a pussy to hang out at in real life. "

Aka the Destructiod targeted audiance...
i kid..i kid..

But seriously, sell the xbox, get a PC and come game with the growups. Yes, you can use a controller to play Left4Dead for PC. Mouse/keyboard are not required. And when you see the user mods that are gonna be released soon, you're gonna wish you listened.
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:22
TrailerParkJesus
Unfortunately, those morons you are addressing won't be reading this.
Exquisitor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:23
Exquisitor
Trust me, playing on the PC side isn't much better. This is the primary reason I'm glad there's Versus mode. Versus mode is where I've encountered 90% of these assholes.
Furyfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:24
Furyfire
....Agree'd. This is why I play XBOX live without a headset. :P
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:25
Corak
@tazarthayoot
To answer 2 of your questions:

1) Why do you play with random people?
Most times my friends are not online or are playing a different game so I would be forced to play with random people.
2) Why don't you play with people on your friends list?
See my previous answer.

I don't think Jim was bashing Halo people, just those sterotypical people that we associate with it. This is the reason I don't have a Live membership anymore, and I'm dreading cashing in my 2 days free of Live I got with my GOW2 purchase. I know all matches aren't like this but just a few make me not want to ever go back to it. It makes me sad that with no society censorship we deal with in our every day lives that this is how people really are. When they can say whatever they want. They think its just an act and they don't really mean it, but I think its just the opposite. If you act that way on Live that is really the kind of person you are. Scary isn't it?
pendelton21's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:26
pendelton21
Jim Sterling,

I love you.

-Pendelton
Riposte's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:27
Riposte
Just so you know you can use almost any kind of controller of PC. I am 100% certain Left 4 Dead supports this. As do most games(considering that most games a multi-plat, why wouldn't they?)
wfolse1's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:28
wfolse1
I'm with you Jim. And to those who say it isn't Halo, you are halfway right. It is a great game made by an immensely talented team who never intended the online game to devolve as it has. The fact is that Halo attracts the kind of young male who uses a headset microphone as a medium for voicing his hatred and bigotry. These are the same people that will likely not be playing fantastic games like Prince of Persia, Little Big Planet, or the aforementioned Viva Pinata this holiday because these kind of unique, thoughtful games require sensibilities that these ignorant savages seem to lack. It isn't all Halo players, but its far more than a few.
Redzie's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:29
Redzie
@Thisissami
Im not saying that theres a difference in proportion its just we cant hear a lot of those fucks on PSN unlike most XBoxes that have bundled headsets.
elysse's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:31
elysse
L4D means teamplay: do try to keep up, people.
nukka jdav's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:32
nukka jdav
The first time I played the demo with random people on the 360, I ended up with a kid with a speech impediment, a racist Puerto Rican, and an 11 maybe 12 year old who screamed every time he saw a zombie.

Needless to say, it was the best match of L4D I've ever had.
papero2's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:32
papero2
I though this was a myth, until i played the 360 version of soul calibur 4 at a friends house. with one exception everyone called me spammer and worst.

The thing with PSN is, to go out and buy a headset you have to be genuinely interested in a game. So yea even among us few headset owners there is a lower prick%.

But there is always 1 idiot who wont do the 8 person challenges on burnout paradise!!!
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:32
SephirothX
It would be more appropriate and accurate to throw the CounterStrike gamers under the bus instead of Halo.

But yeah, throwing the entire Halo community under the buss just makes you an elitist dickhead Jim. How about instead of complaining about L4D why dont you go play a different, better, FPS.
Marioland's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:36
Marioland
Hey, having real life friends can be fun. I play only with guys/girls that I know and trust. Believe me, it makes everything better. That's not only for L4D but in every game in every platform. I begin to find the whole indirect-communication of Nintendo's random matches so reasonable... I am just going crazy.

Anyway, Jim's rants are fucking true every time.
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:36
Mxyzptlk
I'm another one of those people who can't play FPS games with a mouse & keyboard anymore. Sitting on my couch with a gamepad is just way more comfortable. I prefer not to feel sore as hell after a few hours of gaming. Yes, go ahead PC gamers. Tell me I'm a fool/child because I have a different preference.

If you ever make some room on your friend list, shoot me an invite Jimmles. I'm always up for some Left 4 Dead.
Nogarda's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:40
Nogarda
So gaming not in America not what you exspected is what you are saying Jim?[/ultra sarcasm] XD

Unless someone purposely team kills someone I can pretty much tolerate some games. yup had the same tards on occasion, but I found it more annoying having swarms of people join a game without a headset, and well lets just say voice chat is almost in audiable without one with waves of zombies coming at you. So that 'lets not be idiots and shoot the car.' message never gets through to your team and 2 think its halirious to shoot it in unuison and then get the entire team killed. while your trying to get expert achievements.

I sadly know one of these FPS's only types who think master chief is his daddy and born of lara crofts pistols from a drunken one night stand at the golden joysticks XD the only consolation is I get to physically punch him everytime he is a moron... its the only reason were friends really lol XD.
Redzie's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:40
Redzie
Jim wasnt saying that the pricks were the people who play Halo, he was referring to the pricks that play Halo.
TehBoognish's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:41
TehBoognish
you sir, are a whining bitch. Its getting old real fast.
bobyoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:43
bobyoko
jim you shouldn't be so critical of your peers.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:45
Volomon
For the people saying it started with CounterStrike, your opinion is automatically void. First off as with most intelligent games and those that develop those games (most likely starting with Quake, ya I'm pointing at you newfags calling CounterStrike out), it has FF switch. Ultimately you have to blame the developer most Co-Op games do not have friendly fire, for the exact reason Jim stated. That's not to say that fair games don't exist in game with FF on. However apparently this game sucks because this is the only reason so many people would be bored with the game that they would rather get their joy from screwing other people.

Also Live! that's what you get. Kiddies...
ghettobelmontes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 19:46
ghettobelmontes
Geez Sterling, every post or article written by you is either biased as all hell, or just plain abrasive, and immature. Im sorry that not everyone that joins a game with you plays by Lord Sterlings Rules of Etiquette. Yes, there are griefers out there, they are in every online game, get over it, there isnt anything you nor I can do about it, short of adding them to our ignore list. Just stick to those on your friends list if you want consistently civilized team mates. I dont understand why you go on these offensive generality riddled rants. You appear to dislike people calling each other \"fa**ot\" or \"ni**er\", yet you have no problem calling people \"mongs\", \"rednecks\" and \"socially retarded fu**nuts\". Instead of perhaps writing a guide on how to play the game in a cooperative fashion, helping the community and players who may have not been exposed to cooperative gameplay being a crucial element for ingame success, you label everyone moron, and offer nothing constructive at all. You sir, do nothing for the advancement of this game community or the greater gaming community at large when you write ignorant and offensive articles like this.
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