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I don't think a 3 minute trailer could ever do the fiction justice. From reading Ghosts of Onyx (which wasn't terrible btw) you learn that Spartan 3's weren't as clean cut and the selection process was far broader than the previous subjects which led to far more failures and subjects that suffered psychological and physical trauma.
I hope they at least recognise the aspects that have been highlighted in the deeper fiction during the campaign.
I hope they at least recognise the aspects that have been highlighted in the deeper fiction during the campaign.
It is literally the same as the 60-second trailer, only three times longer.
It literally tells you nothing more than the first trailer did.
Literally.
It literally tells you nothing more than the first trailer did.
Literally.
@ Scroll
Well, seeing as the actual game will be made by Bungie themselves, I don't see why the fiction wouldn't be a little more fleshed out. This extended version is a step up, but still not nearly as good as the ODST commercial. They should've emphasized how truly agonizing it is to become a Spartan, which didn't happen :(
Still, it's better than the shorter one, which isn't saying much.
Well, seeing as the actual game will be made by Bungie themselves, I don't see why the fiction wouldn't be a little more fleshed out. This extended version is a step up, but still not nearly as good as the ODST commercial. They should've emphasized how truly agonizing it is to become a Spartan, which didn't happen :(
Still, it's better than the shorter one, which isn't saying much.
@Scroll
One of my biggest complaints about Halo, is that the GAMES THEMSELVES don't do the lore justice.
One of my biggest complaints about Halo, is that the GAMES THEMSELVES don't do the lore justice.
After getting chewed out by a bunch of fans for screwing up a description of Master Chief, I am vaguely satisfied that even Microsoft cannot get this stuff right.
Shit is complicated, yo.
Shit is complicated, yo.
That suck^ amiright? ODST had better direction. This was dull and showed that it was easy to become a spartan. If all you had to do was be injected, why isn't there more.
Expanding on what Scroll said, this trailer seems to make it like this particular Spartan volunteered to be a part of the Spartan program.
Did I miss something in the mythos? I thought all Spartans were kidnapped and effectively cut off from whatever brief lives they had prior to being entered into the program (since they were abducted as children)?
Suddenly we have this guy who willingly puts his keycard in to start the injections at the table?
It's a great and powerful short piece, but from my understanding they messed up the established mythos...
Did I miss something in the mythos? I thought all Spartans were kidnapped and effectively cut off from whatever brief lives they had prior to being entered into the program (since they were abducted as children)?
Suddenly we have this guy who willingly puts his keycard in to start the injections at the table?
It's a great and powerful short piece, but from my understanding they messed up the established mythos...
The thing I liked about the 60 second trailer was the emotion on the kid's face throughout. It seemed to be a kind of mixture of apprehension and determination that I thought he pulled off pretty well. The longer trailer, while it doesn't really convey anything extra, has more of that acting, so I liked it for at least that reason.
I didn't really like the ending (same in both trailers). It felt kind of hasty in comparison to the rest of it.
I didn't really like the ending (same in both trailers). It felt kind of hasty in comparison to the rest of it.
The one thing I've noticed about all these Halo Reach trailer is the music. I really appreciate not hearing the same ol' Halo theme song all the time. I haven't heard it once since the announcement of this game.
The one thing I've noticed about all these Halo Reach trailer is the music. I really appreciate not hearing the same ol' Halo theme song all the time. I haven't heard it once since the announcement of this game.
@ Jon B:
Yeah that's what I was getting at, it's difficult I guess to produce more gate ways for the information to be fed to the player in such a linear experience but maybe they'll do something similar to ODST? At least some dialogue between the other members of the squad might help.
Yeah that's what I was getting at, it's difficult I guess to produce more gate ways for the information to be fed to the player in such a linear experience but maybe they'll do something similar to ODST? At least some dialogue between the other members of the squad might help.
"A one minute trailer stretched out to 3 minutes? That is sad."
No, whats sad is that a great three minute trailer was cut down to one minute.
No, whats sad is that a great three minute trailer was cut down to one minute.
Yeah, a little dialogue and information would add depth. At least it was subtle. They could have blasted "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor."
This was a very long trailer, lol. I'm also a little disappointed that it wasn't quite as awesome as the live action ODST trailers. Those were amazing.
I definitely enjoyed that one a lot more than the 60-second version. Still not the best of the Halo live action pieces, but very good and presents a different tone than the others. The music had more of a chance to swell in the longer version, and there was a more distinct "journey" with the extra shots. Also, I was actually able to have the volume at a loud enough level since I'm not at work right now, which seems to make a big difference as well.
What a disappointment after the Believe campaign and "We are ODST." There's absolutely no emotional resonance in this Halo:Reach ad. Missed opportunity.
I am still disappointed. It seems like it doesn't show anything NEW that the other one showed, but it just takes a longer time in showing you. Maybe after the ODST trailer, everything will be lame in my eyes
@Roek
Spartans are pretty much brain washed as kids to obey orders and complete the mission. That's all they live for.
If someone ordered him to do that, no doubt he'd do it.
Spartans are pretty much brain washed as kids to obey orders and complete the mission. That's all they live for.
If someone ordered him to do that, no doubt he'd do it.
Regarding the dumb reflection comment, that reflection was on the glass in front of the armor,not on the visor of the armor. Not really even worth commenting on.
I thought it was both tasteful and subtle. All of the "not enough action" and "there was no dialogue" comments completly miss what's going on.
I have to say I was really impressed with the trailer considering that what they are showing is the birth of the Spartan III and not the Spartan II. The Spartan III program produced expendable super solders that didn't have the same spec MOJOLNIR armor as the Spartan II program. They also didn't go under the extensive neural and physical augmentation that the Spartan IIs had...yes I am a nerd and I don't care.
Just one word.. F*KING BORING!!! Sorry that was two. Anyway, who is this guy? Looks like Tom Hanks in Forrest Gump.
@Haunter66 "F*KING BORING!!" are actually two words, genious.
On topic, the movie is sorta decent, but the ODST one is still way better.
On topic, the movie is sorta decent, but the ODST one is still way better.
@AexEro
"'F*KING BORING!!' are actually two words, genious."
Exactly... which is why he said (in the very next sentence):
"Sorry that was two."
"'F*KING BORING!!' are actually two words, genious."
Exactly... which is why he said (in the very next sentence):
"Sorry that was two."
" I don't think a 3 minute trailer could ever do the fiction justice. From reading Ghosts of Onyx (which wasn't terrible btw) you learn that Spartan 3's weren't as clean cut and the selection process was far broader than the previous subjects which led to far more failures and subjects that suffered psychological and physical trauma. "
Actually according to 'Ghosts of Onyx', the Spartan III process was vastly improved over the Spartan II process and had very few failures allowing the production of much larger classes of 300 Spartans instead of starting with 70 carefully selected candidates and producing 30 usable Spartans. The Spartan III's were, as was stated, teen aged orphans who survived the glassing of colonies. They were not selected for specific rare genetic traits nor were they kidnapped and trained from the age of five or six.
Only the 3rd class of Spartan III's was 'psychotic' due to an addition that Kurt made to the process to enhance their chances of survival by allowing them to keep active while terribly wounded. Unfortunately it also resulted in psychosis so a reservoir of antipsychotic medication was implanted in the third class to counteract these side-effects. Kurt did this because Spartan III's tended to be used in mass numbers for suicide missions and tended to get wiped out.
Reach has since told us about Spartan III's that received Mjolnir armor instead of SPI armor and fought with the UNSC Army instead of the marines. They may well be survivors from the Spartan III classes suicide missions who were listed as lost but re-equipped, retrained, and reassigned into smaller commando groups like Nobel team..
Actually according to 'Ghosts of Onyx', the Spartan III process was vastly improved over the Spartan II process and had very few failures allowing the production of much larger classes of 300 Spartans instead of starting with 70 carefully selected candidates and producing 30 usable Spartans. The Spartan III's were, as was stated, teen aged orphans who survived the glassing of colonies. They were not selected for specific rare genetic traits nor were they kidnapped and trained from the age of five or six.
Only the 3rd class of Spartan III's was 'psychotic' due to an addition that Kurt made to the process to enhance their chances of survival by allowing them to keep active while terribly wounded. Unfortunately it also resulted in psychosis so a reservoir of antipsychotic medication was implanted in the third class to counteract these side-effects. Kurt did this because Spartan III's tended to be used in mass numbers for suicide missions and tended to get wiped out.
Reach has since told us about Spartan III's that received Mjolnir armor instead of SPI armor and fought with the UNSC Army instead of the marines. They may well be survivors from the Spartan III classes suicide missions who were listed as lost but re-equipped, retrained, and reassigned into smaller commando groups like Nobel team..
@Roek
In Evolutions, we see one of the Spartans choosing to undergo the augmentation process on his own terms. This, both the book and the trailer, demonstrate that these soldiers are so committed to saving humanity they'll freely sacrifice themselves for it. Bam. Nerd facts.
Can't explain the picture though, that seems more contrary to me.
In Evolutions, we see one of the Spartans choosing to undergo the augmentation process on his own terms. This, both the book and the trailer, demonstrate that these soldiers are so committed to saving humanity they'll freely sacrifice themselves for it. Bam. Nerd facts.
Can't explain the picture though, that seems more contrary to me.
great read, that was funny.
cool video half awesome visuals half lame close up hallway walker
they sure are aiming young with this one, so no veteran squad, or does the juice make guy super awesome? if you haven't noticed I dont know halo at all.
cool video half awesome visuals half lame close up hallway walker
they sure are aiming young with this one, so no veteran squad, or does the juice make guy super awesome? if you haven't noticed I dont know halo at all.
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