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I don't understand the point of not releasing the collector's edition in the US. It makes about as much sense as when they only let people who preordered Killzone 2 play the demo.
well shux.
I move to the US and this is what I get.
No love for the French expatriate Quantic Dreams???
I move to the US and this is what I get.
No love for the French expatriate Quantic Dreams???
First no Bayonetta CE, now this. Is the collector's edition dying? Or have publishers finally learned that they should only provide CE's for games that deserve it? Regardless, it's weird that these games are getting pimped-out versions in non-US territories, but not the US.
@xenomus
Maybe its because Americans don't buy CE's unless its for some AAAAAA established franchise? Whatever the cause I find it to be depressing that we didn't get the Bayonetta CE that AUS got with the guns. I was so ready to triple dip on the game until I remembered that 360 games are region-locked for the most part.
Maybe its because Americans don't buy CE's unless its for some AAAAAA established franchise? Whatever the cause I find it to be depressing that we didn't get the Bayonetta CE that AUS got with the guns. I was so ready to triple dip on the game until I remembered that 360 games are region-locked for the most part.
all this for a glorified quick time event?
funny, when QTE's show up in other games, people condemn it, but for a game built around them, people are creaming their pants. Hypocrisy cake, anyone?
funny, when QTE's show up in other games, people condemn it, but for a game built around them, people are creaming their pants. Hypocrisy cake, anyone?
I was interested in this game until I saw a in-game video where someone was trying to convince a kid to do his homework. F that. I have my own children to try to persuade.
"funny, when QTE's show up in other games, people condemn it, but for a game built around them, people are creaming their pants. Hypocrisy cake, anyone?"
How can it be Hypocrisy? Do you think that maybe.. I don't know.. there's more then one gamer out there, thus there's more then one opinion out there? Not to mention you're wrong about this game being built around QTE's, and you're going to miss out on a fun game just because you're hard headed. Oh well, sucks to be you.
How can it be Hypocrisy? Do you think that maybe.. I don't know.. there's more then one gamer out there, thus there's more then one opinion out there? Not to mention you're wrong about this game being built around QTE's, and you're going to miss out on a fun game just because you're hard headed. Oh well, sucks to be you.
I suppose since the PS3 is region free, anyone who really wants a Collector's Edition of the game can just import one. I'm not terribly interested myself after seeing the gameplay video.. so I could care less. From what I've seen, it's basically Quick Time Event the Video Game, and while I don't have a whole lot complain about it being there occasionally, a whole game would get dull very fast for me.
@runtheplacered
Don't try. We've been trying for 2 years now. Let the haters hate and the players play. It's not worth it.
Don't try. We've been trying for 2 years now. Let the haters hate and the players play. It's not worth it.
I guess the US just doesn't put up with bullshit Quick Time Events so those type of games aren't popular here. Oh wait; God of War.
I hate QTE's as much as the next guy, if not more because it takes away from the immersion. And for a game that is trying hard to be a movie, that's not a good thing.
Sorry, but after playing the demo's for GoW3, Dante's Inferno and Bayonetta back to back to back, I'm a bit bitter. >_<
I hate QTE's as much as the next guy, if not more because it takes away from the immersion. And for a game that is trying hard to be a movie, that's not a good thing.
Sorry, but after playing the demo's for GoW3, Dante's Inferno and Bayonetta back to back to back, I'm a bit bitter. >_<
so when you have to press X in front of a treasure chess to open it i guess that's not a qte either huh? each and every game every created uses qte, the difference is you don't see the button commands on screen in most of them.
kh2 had perhaps the shittest implementation of qte.
kh2 had perhaps the shittest implementation of qte.
If by 'X' you mean the PS3 equivalent of XBox360's 'A' then that is just a normal button command. Chests don't automatically open when you go near them, so no, that's not a QTE. When you open a door IRL is that a QTE? No, but when you get in a fight IRL and have to dodge someone's punches while trying to inflict harm, THAT is a QTE. A one time 'use' action is not a QTE but a succession of multiple time-sensitive button presses is.
@Rammstein
Not quite the best analogy, in a fight IRL if you use a left punch when a right punch would have worked better it isn't necessarily game over. As for QTE's I don't get the hate, I personally enjoy them. On that note if this game is anything like their last then yes it will be centered on QTE's, not that I see that as a bad thing.
Not quite the best analogy, in a fight IRL if you use a left punch when a right punch would have worked better it isn't necessarily game over. As for QTE's I don't get the hate, I personally enjoy them. On that note if this game is anything like their last then yes it will be centered on QTE's, not that I see that as a bad thing.
This is all Jim's fault if he didn't bash the ps3 sony would have released this masterpiece's collectors edition in the states lmao. I don't care I'm getting it day 1 whether or not some (possibly)great game comes with a collector's edition doesn't bother me most times when it comes to collector's editions what you get isn't worth the price.
You guys do know that a code to download The Taxidermist is included with pre-order in the States, right?
Magnalon: Anthony is going to say it sucks and that Alan Wake is infinitely superior. Then a few months later he's going to come back and say that "now" he actually thinks Heavy Rain is better.
Magnalon: Anthony is going to say it sucks and that Alan Wake is infinitely superior. Then a few months later he's going to come back and say that "now" he actually thinks Heavy Rain is better.
okay, in a game where you have to dodge an enemies attack for him to left vulnerable for attack, that's a qte that is time sensitive and since you had to dodge his attack, button command sensitive too.
after seeing heavy rain videos and what they're trying to achieve with choice and consequence, how could they do it any other way? because i know real life is about choice of actions, you don't go around with a set array of body commands for every different moment you experience. unlike most games where its only attack, shoot, jump, action, run, duck and move forward, backward, side to side.
heavy rain seems to be going for an almost realistic interpretation of life, even if its trying to tell a changeable story, the fact that the gameplay outcomes are not set in stone is amazing, every one love multiple endings, this game has multiple outcomes that are dependent on your choices and actions that you want to do, even if limited to an extent. i don't see many other games trying to accomplish this.
after seeing heavy rain videos and what they're trying to achieve with choice and consequence, how could they do it any other way? because i know real life is about choice of actions, you don't go around with a set array of body commands for every different moment you experience. unlike most games where its only attack, shoot, jump, action, run, duck and move forward, backward, side to side.
heavy rain seems to be going for an almost realistic interpretation of life, even if its trying to tell a changeable story, the fact that the gameplay outcomes are not set in stone is amazing, every one love multiple endings, this game has multiple outcomes that are dependent on your choices and actions that you want to do, even if limited to an extent. i don't see many other games trying to accomplish this.
The reason why I hate QTE's so much is because of their excessive use in some games. In GoW3 I just finished dodging the Chimaera-like creature's fire attack and charge-attacks, why do I also have to arm-wrestle with him to see who gets to attack next? It's just a glorified die roll left over from D&D days.
Even more confusing, is that a game that is touting the whole immersion angle so much to have something so jarringly remove you from the game's emotion makes no sense to me!
I can only imagine how they will implement it but if its anything like 'Press Square then Circle then Triangle to play catch with your son' it can only end poorly. 'Press Square, X, Circle to mourn the loss of your dead daughter!' Give me a break. Just release a movie using the game engine if you want a true cinematic experience. Because nothing takes me out of a game quicker than seeing a big green or grey button icon on the screen telling me to mash it so the semi-boss doesn't rape me. Sorry for the rant, I just played X-Men Origins:Wolverine, ugh!
Even more confusing, is that a game that is touting the whole immersion angle so much to have something so jarringly remove you from the game's emotion makes no sense to me!
I can only imagine how they will implement it but if its anything like 'Press Square then Circle then Triangle to play catch with your son' it can only end poorly. 'Press Square, X, Circle to mourn the loss of your dead daughter!' Give me a break. Just release a movie using the game engine if you want a true cinematic experience. Because nothing takes me out of a game quicker than seeing a big green or grey button icon on the screen telling me to mash it so the semi-boss doesn't rape me. Sorry for the rant, I just played X-Men Origins:Wolverine, ugh!
"Press Square then Circle then Triangle to play catch with your son' it can only end poorly. 'Press Square, X, Circle to mourn the loss of your dead daughter!'"
That's not going to be how it works. The game isn't just a long string of button presses. Really the inputs are there just to indicate the various actions you can partake in.
That's not going to be how it works. The game isn't just a long string of button presses. Really the inputs are there just to indicate the various actions you can partake in.
I'm amazed the amount of people who seem to think that they can judge this accurately when it isn't even finished. And they obviously haven't seen it in action or played it.
I'm going to give it a go, its different, and as such I think I'll buy it out of curiosity,
that and I didn't think that fahrenheit was all that bad. its the only game which had sex that didn't seem really awkward to me, goes to show how the story hooked me...
I'm going to give it a go, its different, and as such I think I'll buy it out of curiosity,
that and I didn't think that fahrenheit was all that bad. its the only game which had sex that didn't seem really awkward to me, goes to show how the story hooked me...
Who cares, honestly? Why would you want a Collector's Edition for a game you don't even know if you'll enjoy?
I think they are missing out on a money making opportunity if the collectors edition has some value to it. It can be used to garner interest in people that were thinking of waiting on it because of an art book, documentaries, or a soundtrack. Things like that add value to the product and atracts interest. They can also raise the price slightly and get more money too. In short, it is a FAIL move.
<i>The reason why I hate QTE's so much is because of their excessive use in some games.</i>
You must absolutely HATE the jump button then - not to mention the fire button. And as for directional controls - that whole idea has been done to death! Can't developers move on from this stupid concept of moving left, right, up or down???
As others have pointed out, QTEs exist in all kinds of gaming scenarios, but you may not have realised it. Takle the Titans in Batman: AA, for example. You see them getting ready tor un at you, and you have to jump sideways at the right moment, or you lose health. This is simply a variation on a mechanic which has been appeared in approximately 1 billion boss battles since the inception of videogames - and ya, it's a QTE.
<i>If by 'X' you mean the PS3 equivalent of XBox360's 'A' then that is just a normal button command.</i>
Um....if by "A" button, you mean the x-box equivalent of the X button (which appeared several years before anyone had even heard of the x-box) then......why are you in the PS3 section of Dtoid?
Anyhoo....I'm not a major fan of SEs, but I adore my Fallout 3 lunchbox with bobblehead, and Heavy Rain is clearly my kind of game, so I'll definitely be getting this - £40 is standard retail price for games in the UK anyway.
You must absolutely HATE the jump button then - not to mention the fire button. And as for directional controls - that whole idea has been done to death! Can't developers move on from this stupid concept of moving left, right, up or down???
As others have pointed out, QTEs exist in all kinds of gaming scenarios, but you may not have realised it. Takle the Titans in Batman: AA, for example. You see them getting ready tor un at you, and you have to jump sideways at the right moment, or you lose health. This is simply a variation on a mechanic which has been appeared in approximately 1 billion boss battles since the inception of videogames - and ya, it's a QTE.
<i>If by 'X' you mean the PS3 equivalent of XBox360's 'A' then that is just a normal button command.</i>
Um....if by "A" button, you mean the x-box equivalent of the X button (which appeared several years before anyone had even heard of the x-box) then......why are you in the PS3 section of Dtoid?
Anyhoo....I'm not a major fan of SEs, but I adore my Fallout 3 lunchbox with bobblehead, and Heavy Rain is clearly my kind of game, so I'll definitely be getting this - £40 is standard retail price for games in the UK anyway.
@ stealthknight
yeah because not whoring your game out with the intentions of wringing the consumer dry is a FAIL move right?
maybe from a marketing standpoint, but certainly not from our end. the preorder of this game includes the very same additional feature the CE contains (as far as we've been told), so what's the big deal? more for less... or in this case, more for an early installment of at least 5 dollarettes.
it's not a pair of cheap plastic night vision goggles and a "dude, where's my server" chest bumping bro-fest, but it could be worth at least the time it takes to make a fair assumption right?
yeah because not whoring your game out with the intentions of wringing the consumer dry is a FAIL move right?
maybe from a marketing standpoint, but certainly not from our end. the preorder of this game includes the very same additional feature the CE contains (as far as we've been told), so what's the big deal? more for less... or in this case, more for an early installment of at least 5 dollarettes.
it's not a pair of cheap plastic night vision goggles and a "dude, where's my server" chest bumping bro-fest, but it could be worth at least the time it takes to make a fair assumption right?
I do not want to buy this game. It does not interest me at all. Maybe it will be good and I will get it later. But still, a "Meh" from me.
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