This really is quite remarkable. Not only has the Wii been successfully and competently emulated on the PC, but the graphics are being brought to us in shiny 720p HD. While it does have a few issues, the Dolphin emulator currently makes Wii games look far better than they do on the console itself, and gives you a taste of what could have been if Nintendo had bothered to make the Wii a bit more powerful.
Looking at the images, all I can think is that this is what the Wii really should have been from the start. Fair play to the Nintendo designers, they've managed to make some really good looking games despite the Wii's limitations, but it could have been so much more. If emulation is your thing, perhaps you can enjoy this for yourself, but those of us who aren't emulation geeky geeks who like to whine and moan that emulation isn't illegal and stomp their feet and have tantrums over it will have to simply dream of what might one day be real.
There are loads of shots on NeoGAF. Check them out and imagine a world with Wii HD.
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If a bunch of people in their basements can come up with this, what's stopping Nintendo? Should've been like this all along. I mean, you need a computer several times as powerful as a Wii in order to do this, but eh...
a respectable gaming PC will be able to play this stuff just fine. i don't know why people trash on PC games and emulators because they wont work on old and/or basic machines.
I have yet to find a game I can't play... acceptably, including GTAIV, and Crysis. Wii Emulation is NOT far enough along to emulate at a good speed on an "average system". Think about it, that video quotes the specs as:
+ E8400 @ 4GHz
+ 4GB Ballistix DDR2 RAM
+ XFX GTX 260 216 Black Edition
The Wii has a 729MHz single core processor, 91MB total RAM, and an incredibly weak graphics card. Overkill! You can run a SNES emulator on much closer to the original specs, an N64 emulator with a bargain bin PC from 5 years ago, I can emulate GCN games fine with my fairly cheap, 2 year old PC.
I'm not hating on emulation when I say Wii emulation isn't as good as it can be :)
Sadly the games all have to be 60Hz compatible, which means no Little King's Story for you.
How does the motion control work btw?
Nintendo dropped the HD capability on purpose to keep the hardware cost low. That way the target casual market will buy a billion of the things on a whim.
It isn't so simple as converting a few Ghz. Console hardware is highly optimized and doesn't use the same architecture as modern pcs. When the N64 came out if you looked at the specs loosely, it was vastly inferior to pcs of at time but no one could emulate it properly.
Only in this generation did the HD consoles went for overkill in specs to appease geeks with a PC mentality that only bigger numbers mean better graphics when there's a lot more behind it.
Try the one that is giving as an example... It's THE best game this gen.
You're still missing the point :P
All I said was it takes a very good PC to emulate it well, and it's highly likely to improve as time goes on. The specs were just a point, I wasn't saying you should be able to run it on that. I agree with you all!
Not that it's necessary. I have a Wii and I'm fine with how it is. After all, haven't emulators always had filters and all to make games look extra-nice?
brb gonna go to 1991 and demand Nintendo put in 2xSAI/Eagle/whatever filters in their console.
@ Onlineatron - typing that in all caps doesn't make it true. Galaxy was a step backwards in almost every way from 64. Not even close to the best game this gen, imo.
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No one has insulted the people who made the emulator all anyone's said is that it needs some work (Anyone who does insult the programmers needs to learn how much work goes into those little things) Don't take it personally.
Then again, I wasn't scrutinizing the visuals to death. I was a bit busy. You know - having fun.
They did a great work doing the original emulator on the Gamecube and improving it for the Wii with HD, but in many games it doesn't work perfectly and it takes away a bit of the experience just so you can run HD. No one can deny that Nintendo games are at least very polished and go through an extensive QA, and this takes it away when you start seeing missing textures and frame rate drops.
But on a serious note, if there is a difference, it doesn't seem like much of one. Some comparison screens would be nice, but then, maybe I just don't have that keen an eye for this sort of thing.
I saw that video a while back. I was about to say the same thing.
Lol wut? He's running it with an overclocked E8400 and GTX 260. Far from "astronomical".
Running Zack and Wiki with the Dolphin emulator with my Q6600 and 1GB 4870. Neither of them overclocked.
You can buy a machine for $400 that will run this, easy, as well.
Has anybody seen Metroid Prime in HD? That looks bloody gorgeous.
How do you figure that one? All the emulators I have, provided there's not a particular issue with the specific game, run perfectly. That includes Dolphin and PCSX2.
The catch? I'm on a AMD X2 3ghz, 2gb ram and a 8800GT. Hardly astronomical at all.
I second that statement. I feel at ease with PS2/PS1 emulators because I know that no matter what happens to my PS2/PS3 system, I can pop my discs right into my PC tray and play them again.
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Way to go with the completely misinformed and ignorant comment. This is the reason emulation will never be widely excepted is because idiots like you continue to equate emulation with piracy.
In regards to the article and it's author, this comment within the article has to be the most disturbing comment I've read regarding emulation, yet again from the misinformed and ignorant masses:
"but those of us in the realm of the law-abiding will have to simply dream of what might one day be real".
Where the heck did you ever come up with the conclusion that emulation was ever illegal? For starters refresh yourself with some homework and read up on the Sony Vs. Bleem/Connectix court cases, then read up on court cases where Emulation has been declared legal by the USA.
Emulation is not illegal, however it's considered a gray area. You do know there are those who actually back up their legally owned games to use via emulation don't you? You do know that there are people that actually own both the system and games who like to play them via emulation?
I own a Wii myself, and I've backed up my own games to play via emulation, so don't you dare use the accusation that emulation is illegal or emulation = piracy because it doesn't.
Why do you think legal emulation communities that are the center of emulation projects are allowed to exist on servers located in the USA, mind you these sites also don't partake in the illegal distribution of copyrighted materials nor do they support any form of piracy.
Emulation isn't just about preservation, it's also about enhancing the experience with features that even the original hardware isn't capable of.
Save states, high resolution textures, higher resolution, enhanced graphics, filtering AA/AF, no restrictions on with homebrew, ability to easily cheat beyond the capabilities of the original hardware.
These are all reasons most people are into emulation, you can thank pirates for skewing the original meaning and conception of emulation to the masses.
Just like torrents can be used for illegal and legal purposes, just like a knife can be as a murder weapon or to cut food, emulation has both legal and illegal uses.
Emulation is also done for the challenge, some of you should get a clue before running your traps. The Wii/GC has to be the most challenging systems by far to emulate.
You have the strange sound formats Nintendo uses for Zelda/Mario games along with the task of emulating the just as equally nightmarish DSP hardware, strange development methods in games, strange unheard of features..
Combine that with the lack of documentation of the hardware, and even at this stage, even though it doesn't seem like much, the progress so far is an amazing feat in itself.
Due to reverse engineering (Also legal) the development team was finally able to get some sound working in Mario Galaxy, Zelda: Windwaker, and Zelda: Twilight Princess (GC) albeit not perfected as of yet.
If you want to see the amount of work that went into this so far, the unsurpassed difficulties in emulating the Wii/GC hardware or want to keep track of development look no further than the projects Googlecode page:
http://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/source/list
Which reminds me if emulation was illegal, why is the project allowed to exist on Google, why hasn't it been taken down yet?
Yeah, I thought so..
It seems some of the commentators here have became the laughing stock and disgrace of the emulation community. :P
http://forums.ngemu.com/dolphin-discussion/124358-dolphin-destructoid-com.html
Also on emulators, it's more than simple upscaling when it comes to resolution, instead of increasing the resolution you are also increasing the internal resolution of the image as well.
Anti-Aliasing, Anisotropic Filtering can also be applied. You can also create your own high resolution or custom textures and use them ingame on the emulator.
I also shouldn't need to mention the virtually limitless virtual memory card for Dolphin, as well as other beneficial features for emulation that make it worth it.
My point is everything has illegal and legal purposes, can you say truthfully claim any person has never killed anyone with a knife or used torrents for illegal downloads?
Both which have legit purposes and uses, and apply here as well..
Just because there are some who use emulation to play pirated games for free, it doesn't apply to everyone. There are those who buy and dump all of their games, who may have never pirated anything. You can't say that everyone who uses an emulator is a pirate or equate emulation to piracy, because it's simply is not true nor does it hold any ground an an argument.
Night and day. The difference it massive.
This goes for Dolphin as well, It looks awesome, and the group behind the EMU has done an excellent job picking up Nintendo's slack. And therein lies the problem, as great as impressive as Dolphin graphics are it's still a poor alternative to the real thing.
It's just a shame Nintendo never bothered to create the real thing (Wii in HD) to begin with.