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Interesting article. I'll be sure to save all my Activision Blizzard games so in the future I can go back and play those as classics http://www.1up.com/news/kotick-uks-scrapped-game-tax
Chrono Trigger (Everybody loving it / best thing ever)
I then bought it for the DS. I played a couple of hours. Hum, ok, this is not interesting enough to continue. I sold it.
I then bought it for the DS. I played a couple of hours. Hum, ok, this is not interesting enough to continue. I sold it.
The recent X-Men Arcade release on XBox Live certainly comes to mind. I had some serious rose-tinted glasses on when thinking about playing that.
Pretty much every game that I loved from my childhood seems boring and shallow to me now as an adult. For that reason, it's just better to not go back again.
I used to be a fan of Yoshi's Story. And then I played Yoshi's Island, which as we all know is perhaps the best platformer ever made. When I revisited Yoshi's Story after playing Yoshi's Island, I found it unplayable. It's insultingly easy, the controls are horrible (there's no reason on earth I shouldn't be able to play that with a D-pad!), and the graphics are disgusting compared to Yoshi's Island. All my friends think I'm crazy when I announce that I hate Yoshi's Story, but when I ask them if they played Island, and they say no, I tell them to go play it and then come back to me and tell me if it's still that good.
I have to say: I was let down by Final Fantasy VII. I picked up the Greatest Hits version in 2000 after playing Chrono Cross and FF IX and I was incredibly disappointed. The graphics were crap and I found the storyline as a whole to be very cliche. Cloud was a boring, predictable protagonist and when Aeris got killed, I was actually happy - I thought "Cool, now maybe I can hook Cloud up with the Dead or Alive reject."
Perhaps playing FF IX and CC first was a bad idea, but it just felt technologically dated and I didn't like the story or characters nearly as much as I did in the other games.
Tifa's tits were still awesome though.
Perhaps playing FF IX and CC first was a bad idea, but it just felt technologically dated and I didn't like the story or characters nearly as much as I did in the other games.
Tifa's tits were still awesome though.
@Bren
Oh my GOD, I know! It's still really fun to play on a cabinet because its such a visceral experience, but when you sit down and play it on a TV it's such a mediocre beat-em-up. At least the Simpsons arcade game is still fun.
Oh my GOD, I know! It's still really fun to play on a cabinet because its such a visceral experience, but when you sit down and play it on a TV it's such a mediocre beat-em-up. At least the Simpsons arcade game is still fun.
Oh god, tons of them. The entire Command and Conquer series prior to Red Alert 2, Warcraft 1 and 2, Dune 2, Wolfenstein 3D, Contra 3, etc. I could just go on and on.
Resisdent Evil 4. I have purchased it 3 times, for 3 systems, and just get bored with it. It feels repetitive to me. I wish I could enjoy it, because it is supposed to be incredible.
Also, in my opinion, going in to something hoping it would be close to Link to the Past is setting yourself up for failure. I have been meaning to write a post about Link to the Past as the game I keep coming back to, but I haven't had time.
I love Link to the Past, and I also found Beyond Oasis to be hard to grow attached to. I bought it to play during spring break 1996.
Also, in my opinion, going in to something hoping it would be close to Link to the Past is setting yourself up for failure. I have been meaning to write a post about Link to the Past as the game I keep coming back to, but I haven't had time.
I love Link to the Past, and I also found Beyond Oasis to be hard to grow attached to. I bought it to play during spring break 1996.
Hmmm... I jsut had a case with Jet Force Gemini last week.
The hype about the game has swarmed around me for 11 years, and I finally bought it at Bookmans for 8 dollars + tax. After turning it on and watching the low-res cutscenes (1999, aww yeah) and how broken the design actually was... I gave up and returned it.
It just did not age well, the controls are slippery and the unprepared shooting when changing the scene... it was just not working.
The hype about the game has swarmed around me for 11 years, and I finally bought it at Bookmans for 8 dollars + tax. After turning it on and watching the low-res cutscenes (1999, aww yeah) and how broken the design actually was... I gave up and returned it.
It just did not age well, the controls are slippery and the unprepared shooting when changing the scene... it was just not working.
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, definitely. I played a demo when it first came out (I remember loving it?) but never went near it again until a few months ago when I finally completed it.
It's funny that you write this, I purchased the Sega Genesis Collection for the 360 and was pumped to play. And almost every single game that I enjoyed as a kid, and some playing for this first time(Beyond Oasis), was a total let down. It was just so boring to me. I think ,maybe, I'm jaded. Maybe that's not the right word but now that I have a 360 and a PS3 , it's just not the same anymore.
Honestly, most "classics" I have played after the age of 18 have been terrible. Fallout is literally the only exception.
The problem is, of course, that we've played newer games. Which have been built on the foundations of the old. Which means that when I go back to play Seiken Densetsu 3 and Bahamut Lagoon and Beyond Oasis (yes, the title game didn't do it for me, either), they're not as good, because without the backings of nostalgia, they're just...old, mediocre games I don't have time for. Even Final Fantasy V I can't enjoy, because...there's no nostalgic happiness coming with it.
The problem is, of course, that we've played newer games. Which have been built on the foundations of the old. Which means that when I go back to play Seiken Densetsu 3 and Bahamut Lagoon and Beyond Oasis (yes, the title game didn't do it for me, either), they're not as good, because without the backings of nostalgia, they're just...old, mediocre games I don't have time for. Even Final Fantasy V I can't enjoy, because...there's no nostalgic happiness coming with it.
I guess I'm this way with the Mega Man series. I never really played it until about 2006, and I was expecting to love it since it's such so many others speak so highly of it. It didn't resonate with me at all.
@True Axiom -- I agree with that to a point. Some older games are not nearly as interesting as more recent games, but if the game is designed well (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Final Fantasy VI, Link to the Past, as examples), then I think they are timeless and hold up no matter when you play them.
I guess it all comes down to design. :)
I guess it all comes down to design. :)
Chrono Trigger for me.
For some reason, despite being remade like 50 times, as well as being the recommendation of all my friends, I sunk my teeth into it, even beat the game with all the bonus weapons (that I let my friend get me) but I pretty much just run through it because my friend kept saying it gets better:
It didn't. I was pretty much bored out of my mind, and it wasn't the age: If I could go back to play MGS1 after 4 (yeah, MGS4 was slightly more confusing than it should've) then there's nothing worth with playing a game that appealed to the eye. I guess it wasn't my type of game...
For some reason, despite being remade like 50 times, as well as being the recommendation of all my friends, I sunk my teeth into it, even beat the game with all the bonus weapons (that I let my friend get me) but I pretty much just run through it because my friend kept saying it gets better:
It didn't. I was pretty much bored out of my mind, and it wasn't the age: If I could go back to play MGS1 after 4 (yeah, MGS4 was slightly more confusing than it should've) then there's nothing worth with playing a game that appealed to the eye. I guess it wasn't my type of game...
As a PC gamer since I was like 5 I missed alot of these classic games. Ones that I could never finish due to boredom or just not liking.
Ocarina and Chrono Chross are probably the 2 that stand out
Ocarina and Chrono Chross are probably the 2 that stand out
ICO. It was basically one long escort mission. Nice scenery, interesting idea but I think the gameplay was tedious.
@Sonic9jct
Does Yoshi's Story really count as a classic videogame ? I share your feelings for that game though. I really dislike it.
On topic:
To be honest I can't really think of a classic videogame that really let me down. Oh wait, God of War. Yeah - I just don't get why that game got such praise. There's just so little outstanding to me (other than the presentation), that it just baffles me how this game became a timeless classic to so many.
Does Yoshi's Story really count as a classic videogame ? I share your feelings for that game though. I really dislike it.
On topic:
To be honest I can't really think of a classic videogame that really let me down. Oh wait, God of War. Yeah - I just don't get why that game got such praise. There's just so little outstanding to me (other than the presentation), that it just baffles me how this game became a timeless classic to so many.
I will probably be burned at the stake for one or more of these revalataions, but here goes:
Psychonauts. Played it last year for the first time for maybe 2 hours before concluding that it was cute, but boring. Funny thing is, I love Brutal Legend, even though everyone else seems to hate it.
Jade Empire and KoTOR. Boring. Tried them after Mass Effect and Dragon Age, couldn't get even an hour into either. They just didn't grab me like ME1 did, which I've sunk 200+ hours into by now.
Chrono Trigger? Was awesome back in the day, had it for Super NES and now again on my DS. But Chrono Cross? Convoluted mess of a story, way too many side characters, and a ridiculous combat system. Also, IIRC, both endings were kinda weak in that cop-out 'open to interpretation' way.
That's just my opinion though, no need to go spreading it around...
Psychonauts. Played it last year for the first time for maybe 2 hours before concluding that it was cute, but boring. Funny thing is, I love Brutal Legend, even though everyone else seems to hate it.
Jade Empire and KoTOR. Boring. Tried them after Mass Effect and Dragon Age, couldn't get even an hour into either. They just didn't grab me like ME1 did, which I've sunk 200+ hours into by now.
Chrono Trigger? Was awesome back in the day, had it for Super NES and now again on my DS. But Chrono Cross? Convoluted mess of a story, way too many side characters, and a ridiculous combat system. Also, IIRC, both endings were kinda weak in that cop-out 'open to interpretation' way.
That's just my opinion though, no need to go spreading it around...
@Sonci9jct:
As I recall, Yoshi's Story was often derided for being ridiculously easy and having an art style that was, less than fabulous.
and yes, Yoshi's Island is the best plat former, ever. Even though I love my Banjo kazooie...
As I recall, Yoshi's Story was often derided for being ridiculously easy and having an art style that was, less than fabulous.
and yes, Yoshi's Island is the best plat former, ever. Even though I love my Banjo kazooie...
Does Knights of the Old Republic count as retro yet?
Also:
- Secret of Mana (only did single-player...)
- Fire Emblem (the original)
- Rondo of Blood (to a degree...)
Those are some of the big ones that I was sure I was going to love, and they just ended up not doing it for me for one reason or another...
Also:
- Secret of Mana (only did single-player...)
- Fire Emblem (the original)
- Rondo of Blood (to a degree...)
Those are some of the big ones that I was sure I was going to love, and they just ended up not doing it for me for one reason or another...
Metroid. I go back every year or so and try to play it and can never force myself to play for longer than an hour.
Wow, Chrono Trigger mentioned twice! I love that game, but I find it genuinely interesting to see some opinions that differ from the mass =D I'd really love to hear some of the reasons, out of curiosity alone, Nic128 and Onyx Oblivion =D
There are several "oh boy, this isn't quite as good as I imagined", but a game I never got to play and when I finally did, couldn't get around to enjoying would be Ecco the Dolphin 2. I bought the first as a kid, hated it and left it alone for around 7 years. Came back, felt it was kinda ok, was told the second was better, bought it, played for half an hour and couldn't help but staring at both cartridges and wishing that they exploded right there.
There are several "oh boy, this isn't quite as good as I imagined", but a game I never got to play and when I finally did, couldn't get around to enjoying would be Ecco the Dolphin 2. I bought the first as a kid, hated it and left it alone for around 7 years. Came back, felt it was kinda ok, was told the second was better, bought it, played for half an hour and couldn't help but staring at both cartridges and wishing that they exploded right there.
I can't really remember any "old" classics letting me down, but one pretty recent example of a game whose fans revere as the second coming of Jay-C - Halo 2. As a PC gamer primarily I always heard of how great the Halo games were supposed to be, but never got around to playing them since I never owned an Xbox. Well, last year I got the Windows port of Halo 2, thinking that - while it might not be the best version of the game - it's supposed to be such a fantastic game that it wouldn't matter much. Now, did I get a surprise. I played about 2 hours of it - with a 360 controller, mind you, to get as close to the original experience as possible - and didn't have one moment of fun. I understand the necessity of making it a very slow paced game to make it work with a controller, so I didn't care about that, but the aliens speaking english with voices taken directly from a kid's cartoon, dull and confusing level design. There was just nothing in the game that appealed to me, and though the game was only $10, I felt I had actually wasted my money, something I've never really felt before, even though I've bought many objectively bad games.
I probably will give some of the other Halo games a try to, possibly Reach if it's ever ported to the PC, since it seems to have done away with the cartoon network voice actors.
I probably will give some of the other Halo games a try to, possibly Reach if it's ever ported to the PC, since it seems to have done away with the cartoon network voice actors.
Chrono Trigger, and I've never played Cross. Also all Final Fantasies preceding VII. VII was my first FF so I kind of compared them all to it. I enjoyed VIII and IX, and got halfway through VI before deciding I hated it. Contra too. Shit was awful.
I could not stand RE1.
Terrible controls did it for me.
(Not sure about classic... buuuut Metroid Prime did the same exact thing. Terrible controls and I can't make myself play it.)
Terrible controls did it for me.
(Not sure about classic... buuuut Metroid Prime did the same exact thing. Terrible controls and I can't make myself play it.)
And boy oh boy, Yoshi's Story. What a wonderful ride of "what the hell have they done to one of the very bast platformers of all time?". I bought it shortly after launch, but I can't help but force myself into forgetting all about it just so I can come back full of faux nostalgic expectation to hate it all over again.
I dont know if this counts, but I revieved the classic Atari 2600 "system" that has all the old atari game loaded on to the "console"
all those old games bothered me to no end. They had horrible controls and absolutely no story....
all those old games bothered me to no end. They had horrible controls and absolutely no story....
@Fullmetalfox oh, you're right about Diablo II. Though I bought it at release, and didn't really enjoy it then either, so I didn't consider it a forgotten classic.
Diablo 1 was excellent in it's time though, but that's one genre I think works best on consoles, where you're directly controlling the character instead of clicking where to move, which never did make sense in a game where you're only controlling one character anyway.
Diablo 1 was excellent in it's time though, but that's one genre I think works best on consoles, where you're directly controlling the character instead of clicking where to move, which never did make sense in a game where you're only controlling one character anyway.
Yeah that's pretty much just nostalgia. Most games have aged horribly unless it's a first party nintendo game. And even now people will say that genesis was the best, or their favorite game of all time is X, or that sonic adventure is not horrible, even though they haven't played it in a decade. And even some games which are bad, some people will replay, and still convince themselves it's awesome just because they liked it as a kid.
I do know that I was more than correct in my decision to align with the SNES if Sonic's ultimate genesis collection for the 360 was a good representation of the sega genesis.
I do know that I was more than correct in my decision to align with the SNES if Sonic's ultimate genesis collection for the 360 was a good representation of the sega genesis.
I'll say Silent Hill 2. It's still one of my favorite games, but I can't seem to enjoy as much now. Honestly, it's just the controls. If I went back a bit further, I'd say Zelda II. I loved it when I was a kid, and I didn't own the first Zelda, but I can't really get into it now. I still love the soundtrack though.
Honestly, nobody has ever referred me to a "classic" that I hadn't already played before.
And yes, Beyond Oasis wasn't incredible. I liked it still yet though, and the sequel was actually loads better.
And yes, Beyond Oasis wasn't incredible. I liked it still yet though, and the sequel was actually loads better.
FF VII. I didn't play it until years after it's release, and I don't get what all the squeeing is about. Clouds not a badass (he's actually whiny bitch for most of the game), and Sephiroth is far from the most heinous villain in a video game. Not a bad game by any measure, but certainly not the hallmark of gaming that everyone claims.
I very much enjoyed Yoshi's Island... but kind of like Yoshi's Story better.... mostly because it's so charmingly simple... it is painfully easy and the only sense of difficulty comes from rough design spots... but it's still one of my favorites. Yoshi Story presents itself like a simple little kid kind of game, and delivers pretty well on that level.
I wasn't crazy about Shadow of the Colossus... I think part of that was everyone telling me it was like the best game ever... then I ride around on a horse like "nothing's happening..." then I fight 4 giants and just didn't feel like going on.
I wasn't crazy about Shadow of the Colossus... I think part of that was everyone telling me it was like the best game ever... then I ride around on a horse like "nothing's happening..." then I fight 4 giants and just didn't feel like going on.
I had the same feeling when playing Beyond Oasis on the Wii a couple of years back. I'm not sure it was ever a "classic" though.
Beneath a Steel Sky, Final Fantasy 6, Chrono Trigger, Baldur's Gate 1, KOTOR, Silent Hill 2, Psychonauts, and Beyond Good & Evil.
Go ahead, crucify me.
Go ahead, crucify me.
@Sonci9jct:
You're right, Yoshi's Island is the better game. I loved Yoshi's Story as a kid, but when I was older and wiser, I realized that game was an insult to my intelligence.
As for a retro game that let me down, it has to be Sonic CD. I remember playing it after one of my friends (a die hard Sonic fan btw), told me "Oh my God! you have to play this!" So I did, and while the music was catchy, I just couldn't find myself enjoying the gameplay too much because it felt like Sonic 1, which I wasn't a fan of.
A more recent one was when I recommended to one of my classmates to play Super Mario Galaxy. After playing it he thought it was, and I quote "A steaming pile of shit that only queers would play!" Never spoke to him again.
You're right, Yoshi's Island is the better game. I loved Yoshi's Story as a kid, but when I was older and wiser, I realized that game was an insult to my intelligence.
As for a retro game that let me down, it has to be Sonic CD. I remember playing it after one of my friends (a die hard Sonic fan btw), told me "Oh my God! you have to play this!" So I did, and while the music was catchy, I just couldn't find myself enjoying the gameplay too much because it felt like Sonic 1, which I wasn't a fan of.
A more recent one was when I recommended to one of my classmates to play Super Mario Galaxy. After playing it he thought it was, and I quote "A steaming pile of shit that only queers would play!" Never spoke to him again.
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