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I'm a little turned off by the Ikaruga rip. It doesn't seem that original to me. It's just yanking the formula right from the game, without changing any aspects. I personally hate comparing games to other games. It makes them seem unoriginal.
"This is like this and this combined" When you have something you can't describe by comparing to another game, then you have something unique.
Maybe I'm being too harsh. I might love it, who knows.
"This is like this and this combined" When you have something you can't describe by comparing to another game, then you have something unique.
Maybe I'm being too harsh. I might love it, who knows.
@Tim: I hear what you are saying but I think you are being a bit harsh. When someone says it's like this one thing you love and this other thing you love I get pumped.
@ Timothy- I don't like comparing games to other games either, but with a game like this, it seemed the most direct way to get the idea across.
This game is in no way a direct rip of Ikaruga. It's not even in the same genre.
This game is in no way a direct rip of Ikaruga. It's not even in the same genre.
The fact you made a Hybrid Heaven reference, one of the truly weirdest games I've ever purchased, makes me want to put sex in you.
Oh, and Outland looks badass, too.
Oh, and Outland looks badass, too.
I hate videos that will not play on the iPhone. But this game had me sold on it since I first heard of it.
I'm wondering if this game borrows too many ideas. That doesn't mean that I've played it or that I don't want it, though.
@Timothy Kelly If you say this colour changing idea that was only use in one game previously is unoriginal, then by that logic, fps's which are abundant in the market and all use the same mechanic of shooting guns first person perspective must be original.
This makes no sense. "colour-changing" isn't yet a video game genre yet, and until it is, games that use this mechanic must be original by default.
but if it isn't a genre yet how do you describe it? well the easiest way is to compare it to other games.
in other words if a game has to be compared to another game to describe it, it means it must partially or fully lack genre and thus be original.
no?
This makes no sense. "colour-changing" isn't yet a video game genre yet, and until it is, games that use this mechanic must be original by default.
but if it isn't a genre yet how do you describe it? well the easiest way is to compare it to other games.
in other words if a game has to be compared to another game to describe it, it means it must partially or fully lack genre and thus be original.
no?
this game looks pretty impressive. i'm assuming that this was an early level and that the gameplay becomes even more varied. as a guy who likes mind bending games, this just found my radar. tango mike, mr holmes.
Wow, thanks for the tip-off, I hadn't even heard of this - it looks really good! Reminds me a little bit of Red Star in terms of merging hand-to-hand combat with bullet hell elements.
@Holmes and Rubberfishy
You both make good points. I will certainly give this a try with an open mind.
"in other words if a game has to be compared to another game to describe it, it means it must partially or fully lack genre and thus be original."
Well, the reason it can't be assigned to a genre might be because it takes so many cues from different games that innovated. It's easy to call it different. In my mind, if a game is compared to any other game it simply lacks the ability to stand on it's own as it's own thing. The game being compared to is usually always better, for example...God of War "clones"
"So Outland does this really cool color changing thing where you can absorb dark and light and alternate between shades!"
"You mean like Ikaruga? What does this do that Ikaruga doesn't do better?" *Cue anything you can do I can do better BG music*
But I digress. I don't like to judge too much before I actually play a game. I hope this is a phenomenal game. Perhaps it will even improve upon previous formulas! who knows.
You both make good points. I will certainly give this a try with an open mind.
"in other words if a game has to be compared to another game to describe it, it means it must partially or fully lack genre and thus be original."
Well, the reason it can't be assigned to a genre might be because it takes so many cues from different games that innovated. It's easy to call it different. In my mind, if a game is compared to any other game it simply lacks the ability to stand on it's own as it's own thing. The game being compared to is usually always better, for example...God of War "clones"
"So Outland does this really cool color changing thing where you can absorb dark and light and alternate between shades!"
"You mean like Ikaruga? What does this do that Ikaruga doesn't do better?" *Cue anything you can do I can do better BG music*
But I digress. I don't like to judge too much before I actually play a game. I hope this is a phenomenal game. Perhaps it will even improve upon previous formulas! who knows.
gotta love when you see something like this that looks COMPLETELY different than anything else. this kind of game is what XBLA/PSN was made for!
@ deathsmiles666- Again, but this time, with even more bias against Western developers.
I know it may not seem possible, but I know you can do it.
I know it may not seem possible, but I know you can do it.
Damn, an here I was thinking I was the only one to remember Silhouette Mirage existed!
Anyway, why would someone say this game is going to suck because it combines elements of several awesome games?
Think about it:
"Brownie Sundaes suck, they're just ripping off ice cream and brownies!"
Anyway, why would someone say this game is going to suck because it combines elements of several awesome games?
Think about it:
"Brownie Sundaes suck, they're just ripping off ice cream and brownies!"
@Timothy Kelly, rip offs and copied ideas are the best thing for the industry and progression in gaming.
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/jazzpanda/why-clones-and-rip-offs-are-the-best-things-ever--164506.phtml
Where would we be if a thousand years ago someone said- "oh i can't copy 'the wheel' for my transportation vehicle design, someone already did that."
Where would we be if nobody had directly copied concepts from doom, half-life, gta3, mario64, metroid. etc etc etc. We SHOULD directly copy good gameplay concepts out of respect for the game's creator and seeing their idea pushed further (which is what they usually want).
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/jazzpanda/why-clones-and-rip-offs-are-the-best-things-ever--164506.phtml
Where would we be if a thousand years ago someone said- "oh i can't copy 'the wheel' for my transportation vehicle design, someone already did that."
Where would we be if nobody had directly copied concepts from doom, half-life, gta3, mario64, metroid. etc etc etc. We SHOULD directly copy good gameplay concepts out of respect for the game's creator and seeing their idea pushed further (which is what they usually want).
@ Timothy Kelly- Though 575446's "brownie sundae" analogy was good, I think a general "cake" analogy might be a bit better.
Elemnets from Metroid, Tron, Ikagura, and Shadow of the Colossus have all gone into the creation of Outland, just like eggs, flour, sugar, and flour all go into making a cake. Saying that a cake is a rip-off of eggs just because it has eggs in it doesn't make any sense, does it? Likewise, it doesn't make much sense to say that Outland is unoriginal just because it has elements of Ikaruga in it.
Elemnets from Metroid, Tron, Ikagura, and Shadow of the Colossus have all gone into the creation of Outland, just like eggs, flour, sugar, and flour all go into making a cake. Saying that a cake is a rip-off of eggs just because it has eggs in it doesn't make any sense, does it? Likewise, it doesn't make much sense to say that Outland is unoriginal just because it has elements of Ikaruga in it.
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