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I'm a gamer and I smell pretty good; I like to think that I combat the stereotypes just by existing. Less effort that way.
Uh, who cares? Everybody and everything gets stereotyped. Unless there's some legal ramifications or something serious happening, I don't see why we need to dispel the stereotypes.
i hate everyone and everything, and if i wasn't so lazy i'd steal your car and run over your grandmother.
so we gamers arent lazy, but are either too busy gaming or too lazy to do anything about the evil main-stream media, and the communist president of the socialist states of america calling us lazy, and we arent lazy? well i for one dont have the ambition to...o lazy
Gamers do plenty.
Childs Play. Seriously. Look at that.
I agree that if the industry cares about the perception of their consumers, they should do more to support those gamers that don't fit or resent that stereotype.
Childs Play. Seriously. Look at that.
I agree that if the industry cares about the perception of their consumers, they should do more to support those gamers that don't fit or resent that stereotype.
I, too, am very disappointed in the general public's feeling that people should "turn off the video games and go outside." I was especially disappointed to hear this from the President of the U.S. on more than one occasion. Never mind the fact that video games have become one of the fastest growing social activities.
In terms of the Mass Effect sex scene, I honestly think they just wanted the publicity. Of course they didn't expect Fox to lie about it, but the scandal probably inspired some people to buy the game in the first place. That's why I believe EA didn't sue.
As for everything else, I think we're slowly getting better, but slowly being the key word. Games are appealing to WAY more people than ever, but it's going to be a long time until they're appreciated as an art form by the general public.
As for everything else, I think we're slowly getting better, but slowly being the key word. Games are appealing to WAY more people than ever, but it's going to be a long time until they're appreciated as an art form by the general public.
And this is why I laugh at the ending to Sly Cooper game's credits.
"Your done. The End. Go read a book."
"Your done. The End. Go read a book."
"and the communist president of the socialist states of america calling us lazy"
Your retardation is showing.
Your retardation is showing.
I agree with Tubatic, gamers do a lot. And I also agree with phantomile, gaming is becoming more mainstream by the day and pretty soon most of the population will realize that the stereotypes about gamers are simply untrue. I absolutely have to disagree with Halpin. Nobody has "allowed" this to happen, just look at the comments on any blog that perpetuates the stereotypes. Gamers are angry and very vocal about it. But no matter how vocal we are, there will always be stupid people that stick to their stupid stereotypes. Blaming videogamers for the negative stereotypes applied to them is exactly the same as blaming any minority for their stereotypes.
@Crazyape69: No, you're not "combatting" stereotypes unless you find lazy gamers sitting on their couches and force them outside via water torture and/or electroshock.
I don't know why it gets so much hate. You'd think with gaming so mainstream now-a-days (especially because of the Wii), people wouldn't hate on it so much. Or maybe that's why they ARE hating on it so much; it became mainstream, and they got scared. Remember stories about what happened when The Beatles got popular?
Well, I'm 23, happily married, and my wife and I play Rock Band and Geometry Wars together and with friends. We both have jobs, do volunteer work, and contribute to society. I also game a good 3-4 hours a day. Am I breaking stereotypes yet?
Well, I'm 23, happily married, and my wife and I play Rock Band and Geometry Wars together and with friends. We both have jobs, do volunteer work, and contribute to society. I also game a good 3-4 hours a day. Am I breaking stereotypes yet?
It would have been too much trouble for EA to sue (although it would have been fun to watch). I don't think anyone has to stick up for themselves. Who the fuck is bothering us? Jack Thompson? That's like standing up to the retarded kid at school when he calls you a name. Big hero you are. And Obama has said people need to get off their fat, lazy asses and stop playing so many games? Well it's fucking true isn't it? I'd be in better shape if I took all (or even a small portion of) the time I spent playing games and used it to exercise. I don't, because that's no fun, and I don't really need to, but there are plenty of people who are in far worse shape than me. And of course none of this matters because of the overwhelming amount of gamers there actually is.
Seeing as the media stereotype based on race, gender, age, hair colour, and pets, is it any wonder that social interests are also on their list?
"Electronic Arts could have, and possibly should have, sued FOX for lying about Mass Effect's sex scenes, but it just sat back and let mainstream media bite a chunk out of the gaming industry."
Microsoft published the first Mass Effect game. Even though the EA acquisition of Bioware/Pandemic happened before the game was released, Microsoft was still the publisher in charge of the first game. Shouldn't they be the ones who should have sued?
Microsoft published the first Mass Effect game. Even though the EA acquisition of Bioware/Pandemic happened before the game was released, Microsoft was still the publisher in charge of the first game. Shouldn't they be the ones who should have sued?
While I agree EA maybe should have done more over the Mass Effect thing lawyers cost money, lots of fucking money, and with the economy still faultering its no surprise they didn't sue. There is also no guarantee how much money they would have gotten, if any, had they sued. Also, some people say any publicity is good publicity, nothing sells like controversy and mayhem, so there's that too. If I remember correctly didn't Fox News issue a correction after the story ran? Not that it excuses them, but at least it was something, and I'm not trying to defend Fox News I hate that fucking station with a passion and I stay well clear of it.
As for the rest of the article, meh. The people who say this stuff are the older folks who don't understand video games. When these bitter old fucks depart this earth hopefully their hate and medeling in areas that they know nothing about will go with them.
As for the rest of the article, meh. The people who say this stuff are the older folks who don't understand video games. When these bitter old fucks depart this earth hopefully their hate and medeling in areas that they know nothing about will go with them.
While I feel like I'm an excellent example of the anti-video game stereotype - soon-to-be MBA grad, entrepreneur, blah blah blah - and I would like to speak out, but I guess I'm not really sure how outside of educating people that I meet, which I already do. The other issue is that I don't really have a bunch of time to dedicate myself to something like this.
For one, I agree with Jim that it's really on the companies in the industry to stand up for themselves. EA not standing up to the Fox/Mass Effect debacle is embarrassing.
Second, I feel like everything is going to work itself out anyways: Politicians won't be able to do much because everything they're trying to do is against the laws of this country and either won't pass or will eventually get overturned. More importantly, in about 10-20 years, most of the politicians/judges/business owners/professors/etc, will be gamers from the gaming generation, so the stereotype will be non-existent at that time.
For one, I agree with Jim that it's really on the companies in the industry to stand up for themselves. EA not standing up to the Fox/Mass Effect debacle is embarrassing.
Second, I feel like everything is going to work itself out anyways: Politicians won't be able to do much because everything they're trying to do is against the laws of this country and either won't pass or will eventually get overturned. More importantly, in about 10-20 years, most of the politicians/judges/business owners/professors/etc, will be gamers from the gaming generation, so the stereotype will be non-existent at that time.
I'm pretty sure I smell bad right now. I mean, I feel dirty. My hair is standing on end. I haven't left the house yet today. The only thing I've definitively done today is play Metroid Prime.
I sure am combating stereotypes...heh
But that might have something to do with me having to wake up at 6 AM to call my boss and the fact that I overdid it at the gym yesterday to the point where it hurts to lift my arms above my head and look any way but forward.
I sure am combating stereotypes...heh
But that might have something to do with me having to wake up at 6 AM to call my boss and the fact that I overdid it at the gym yesterday to the point where it hurts to lift my arms above my head and look any way but forward.
OK, So i spend some odd hours on world of warcraft, its raining outside, a tree caught on fire from a lightning bolt and fell on my car, my job is downtown, i call my boss to say i cant come in, so i play wow. i go over friends house play call of duty, other friends come and play halo. now we all sitting here screamin at the hdtv. all big fat lazy gamers who need to go and do nothing. ok. my point is yes its just a bunch of old fucks who dont know what they talking bout (Kevin McCullough anyone). maybe ill go fish or play golf. please i dont even play the games. obama really lost some of my support from his speech. now some too bit gay ass politican has more lee way that us. stand up!
See, I think the thing is, opening trying to combat negative video gamer stereotypes is like when someone accuses you of being racist and you say "no way! I have a ton of black friends!" - and that just makes you sound more racist and out of touch.
In my opinion, the best way to combat negative stereotypes is to be an excellent human being who happens to be a video game player. Don't always be shouting that you love video games, let someone who respects you cause you're a good parent, or an exceptional employee find out that you play video games.
In my opinion, the best way to combat negative stereotypes is to be an excellent human being who happens to be a video game player. Don't always be shouting that you love video games, let someone who respects you cause you're a good parent, or an exceptional employee find out that you play video games.
I think anyone who calls a gamer "lazy" should look at their trophies/achievement list. Anyone who put enough effort into CoD4 to get "The Mile High Club" is not lazy. I'm sure the same could be said about a lot of achievements. =D
Well, the gaming community ought to drop the victim mentality. The public's perception is the community's fault. Not big media, not the politicians, not Jack Thompson... it's us as a whole. It's how we present ourselves. It's how we react to criticism. If gamers keep responding to critics with insults and refuse to present logical counter-arguments, it's just making the ditch deeper.
I mean, look at the Furries. They bitch, moan, and cry persecution while providing detractors with more ammunition. Not only do they refuse to reduce negative stereotypes, they even embrace them while shunning the mean, horrible outside world that can't stand them for reasons they refuse to understand.
It's up to gamers to mind their own behavior to others. A polite, well constructed counter-argument goes much farther then a "go fuck yourself!"
I mean, look at the Furries. They bitch, moan, and cry persecution while providing detractors with more ammunition. Not only do they refuse to reduce negative stereotypes, they even embrace them while shunning the mean, horrible outside world that can't stand them for reasons they refuse to understand.
It's up to gamers to mind their own behavior to others. A polite, well constructed counter-argument goes much farther then a "go fuck yourself!"
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