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That sounds cool but, I would rather them put more effort into the game itself. DLC just seems like a money grab for the most part.
you do know that there is always the possibility that DLC is free, Burnout Paradise for example, free DLC. just b/c DLC is announced doesn't 100% garuntee it needs ot be bought. Sure it'll probably cost something in the end, but, don't give up hope right at the starting block.
I'm still waiting for the game where it's free to download but every level is DLC, that way you can "play at your own rate"
vengefulpenor- same, I'm actually interested in Halo Wars, I may rent it down the line.
eternalplayer- that is a awesome idea! *joins you in waiting for said game*
eternalplayer- that is a awesome idea! *joins you in waiting for said game*
This is EXACTLY what people were worried about when DLC was still a random concept to consider between boxed expansion packs! Sure, it's almost a given for any major title these days that additional content is in the plans, but for God's sake, DON'T HOLD BACK. At the very least, if you ARE holding back ANYWAY, DON'T FUCKING TELL US YOU STUPID TWATS.
This isn't like selling Horse Armor, it's selling us the horse's legs and saddle post-purchase.
Fuck.
This isn't like selling Horse Armor, it's selling us the horse's legs and saddle post-purchase.
Fuck.
The chances of me playing this game were <5% already, seeing as it's a console RTS. Now those chances are 0%.
Put it in the game?? But it's already in the game!! You just need to pay to unlock it. First DLC up, unlock the highly-coveted "save feature" to save your in-game progress. Five Dollars.
Haha I'm exaggerating but it'll be a dark day if things really do go this way >_>
Haha I'm exaggerating but it'll be a dark day if things really do go this way >_>
Welp. I recently decided I'd rather not buy the game, but this pretty much seals it. Thanks, Microsoft!
This is wrong. If it's this far in advance, that should be in the game. Either that, or just don't tell us about it. It may be the same result (provided it's not obvious like the Vader/Yoda DLC for SCIV), but at least we'll feel better about it.
Yeh or this guys's logic to make any sense, then that DLC would have to be free. I almost nevr buy premium DLC, sometime it becomes free after a while and the other times I just dont get it.
Adding about 5% to my game doesnt warrant a 10$ purchase when that game was 60$ and most of the time I waited for it to op in price to buy it !
I love buying a fun game but being nickled and dimed is getting annoying.
This just in... having to buy an overpriced HDD in order to have space to store your overprice and held back from that actual game is completely crazy !!!!
Adding about 5% to my game doesnt warrant a 10$ purchase when that game was 60$ and most of the time I waited for it to op in price to buy it !
I love buying a fun game but being nickled and dimed is getting annoying.
This just in... having to buy an overpriced HDD in order to have space to store your overprice and held back from that actual game is completely crazy !!!!
Yes, of course, deliberately remove content from the game so that you can release it down the road as DLC. This is the only way to keep a game interesting. How about leaving everything in it and then wait to see how the game fares and what the fans want to see.
It's absolutely retarded to hold stuff back to "keep interest" in the game. How about you try to "keep interest" in your community and it's fans.
It's absolutely retarded to hold stuff back to "keep interest" in the game. How about you try to "keep interest" in your community and it's fans.
I don't want to pay full price for half a game, then have to pay more money later to play the rest.
You know, what we as gamers could do about this is just not buy Halo 3: Recon,
but I don't expect any of you guys to do this, I know that you will all be lined up for hours in the middle of the night, begging for Bungie's hot, steaming, money hungry spunk splattered in your face.
You know, what we as gamers could do about this is just not buy Halo 3: Recon,
but I don't expect any of you guys to do this, I know that you will all be lined up for hours in the middle of the night, begging for Bungie's hot, steaming, money hungry spunk splattered in your face.
Don't they realize the best way to sustain interest in a game is to make it completely awesome the first time.
EPIC FAIL!!
EPIC FAIL!!
This shit is going to keep happening more and more as these companies get greedier and dirtier with their fucking slimy business practices.
As long as the game itself has enough content in it at launch, then this is okay. It doesn't sound like they're shortchanging us.
I was upset, but that actually sounds like a rational justification. As long as they provide good support for the game down the road instead of just releasing DLC and washing their hands of the affair, I think it's somewhat reasonable, if, as Sharpless said, it has enough content to stand on its own at launch.
If this was EA with Madden or whatever they're Halo equivalent is they'd have been nailed to the cross. Since its Microsoft and Halo some say its reasonable?
This kinda upsets me because if they were gonna nickel and dime the game then at least I'd be happy that some of it goes to the studio that made it and would use it for the sequel or other projects. That's not the case this time around.
This kinda upsets me because if they were gonna nickel and dime the game then at least I'd be happy that some of it goes to the studio that made it and would use it for the sequel or other projects. That's not the case this time around.
I appreciate the honesty in saying it is done. However, that now sets the expectation that it should be either free or already on the disc.
I hope it IS free, or the content is rather sizable (and cheapish).
I hope it IS free, or the content is rather sizable (and cheapish).
It's not like this is the first time this has ever happened, plenty of other developers and publishers push for this kind of thing because it improves the shelf life of whatever game they're making which- in turn has the potential to introduce more people to their work. Along with more cash comes more gamers, and we can all appreciate that. I guarantee you that Halo 3 wasn't done when Bungie started working on Recon, and I know that it didn't make the game any worse because of it.
Point is, any successful game gets locked content wise pretty early so that they can focus on making what is there work correctly. The fact that they want to add more to the experience isn't ALWAYS a desperate plea for cash.
Point is, any successful game gets locked content wise pretty early so that they can focus on making what is there work correctly. The fact that they want to add more to the experience isn't ALWAYS a desperate plea for cash.
Its still a way for them to make money.
It justifies them selling more copies as well as DLC.
It justifies them making money at the consumers expense.
Look at Criterion, they made the first content free to create more interest in Burnout. I would think the first Halo Wars DLC being free would be justified in a similar manner.
If its already done, it should have been in the disk. This is no different from Katamari 'DLC'. Its just easier to swallow because its not in the disk.
But I'm fine with their decision. Its their job to make money, but lets not sugar coat the fact.
It justifies them selling more copies as well as DLC.
It justifies them making money at the consumers expense.
Look at Criterion, they made the first content free to create more interest in Burnout. I would think the first Halo Wars DLC being free would be justified in a similar manner.
If its already done, it should have been in the disk. This is no different from Katamari 'DLC'. Its just easier to swallow because its not in the disk.
But I'm fine with their decision. Its their job to make money, but lets not sugar coat the fact.
Their reasoning is supposed to sound like a good idea, but when you think about it it's like, "Ok I see...WAIT WHERE'D MY WALLET GO!?
I dont mind if they start thinking of further content before the game is finished. I dont mind if they figure the game is nearly done, so they can grab a few people and get them to start playing around with stuff or even start making proper content.
But when you have finished content ready to go in your game that isnt on the disc, you have fucked up. This tells me you have not put the full game(as you have created it) on the disc and hence it is not worth the retail price.
In fact, i wouldnt care at all if they said its all free DLC. But hell, even if they wanted it to be (and with an attitude like this, fat chance) MS would force a price on it.
But when you have finished content ready to go in your game that isnt on the disc, you have fucked up. This tells me you have not put the full game(as you have created it) on the disc and hence it is not worth the retail price.
In fact, i wouldnt care at all if they said its all free DLC. But hell, even if they wanted it to be (and with an attitude like this, fat chance) MS would force a price on it.
Unless it's free this is a dick move of the highest order.
"Yeah...we made more stuff for the game but we cut it out deliberately so we could make more money later"
That'd be like cutting out the last 3 chapters of a book to sell later to "keep interest". Well good news you've just lost my interest in this game. So when's Dawn Of War 2 coming out?
"Yeah...we made more stuff for the game but we cut it out deliberately so we could make more money later"
That'd be like cutting out the last 3 chapters of a book to sell later to "keep interest". Well good news you've just lost my interest in this game. So when's Dawn Of War 2 coming out?
If they just want people to play and enjoy all of their content instead of releasing it with them game, then sure, release it as DLC... for free.
"I think the thing with DLC is that, if you release it all, how do you sustain interest in the game?"
Oh, i dunno....how about "make a good fucking game"?
There are PLENTY of games from the Pre-DLC era that are still more than interesting enough for me to pick up and play now. Even if i've already played and beaten them, they're still THAT good...
This was back when developers were creative, talented, and original.....now everything's the same formula...
1 Release incomplete buggy game
2 Patch the shit out of it for the next 6 months
3 Monsoon of DLC "micro-transactions"
4 ???
5 Profit
These days, it's either devs have forgotten how to make truly epic games, or, they make games that are almost epic, but are so flawed that you forget all the good in them, and just see what's messed up. and their rational is that they don't hafta do the job right the first time, because the game's already been hyped all to hell, everyone's going to have it, the bugs can be patched out later, and DLC will drive future profits....
Kojima is the rare exception....his games are epic, they're not broken, and they don't rely on DLC to drive sales or future profit...they're so good, that they actually sell themselves...imagine that..
Oh, i dunno....how about "make a good fucking game"?
There are PLENTY of games from the Pre-DLC era that are still more than interesting enough for me to pick up and play now. Even if i've already played and beaten them, they're still THAT good...
This was back when developers were creative, talented, and original.....now everything's the same formula...
1 Release incomplete buggy game
2 Patch the shit out of it for the next 6 months
3 Monsoon of DLC "micro-transactions"
4 ???
5 Profit
These days, it's either devs have forgotten how to make truly epic games, or, they make games that are almost epic, but are so flawed that you forget all the good in them, and just see what's messed up. and their rational is that they don't hafta do the job right the first time, because the game's already been hyped all to hell, everyone's going to have it, the bugs can be patched out later, and DLC will drive future profits....
Kojima is the rare exception....his games are epic, they're not broken, and they don't rely on DLC to drive sales or future profit...they're so good, that they actually sell themselves...imagine that..
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