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Halo 3: Homophobia Evolved (NSFW audio)
Topher Cantler11.26.08 - 4:46 PM 167 comments

 
Last week, our friend Flynn DeMarco over at Gaygamer.net told me about this video that one of his readers had submitted, and while I expected it to be bad, I didn't expect that it would be quite this bad. 
 
The aforementioned reader decided to create the gamertag "xxx GayBoy xxx" and jump into a game of Halo 3 to see what would happen. Given the nature of Xbox Live, it should come as no shock that the audio in the above vid is NSFW, but considering that none of these goons knew they were being recorded, the subsequent chatter ends up just NSF anybody. I'm straight as can be and I'm still horribly offended by it, so I can't imagine what kind of disgust the gay gaming community must be feeling right about now.
 
Upon receiving the video, Flynn contacted its creator with a few questions. Hit the jump to see what he had to say about the whole experience. 

When contacted, "xxx GayBoy xxx" had this to say:

Other than maybe a quick "hello" to the chat room or a request to "veto", I didn't ever say anything first or taunt anyone. What was said by these players was initiated by them with no provocation on my part. The vast majority of the times I wouldn't even respond back so the audio would be clear.

I had a lot more footage but the movie would have been a lot longer and I don’t have the time to edit all that. One thing you don’t see are the betrayals, I was shot by my own teammates. Most don’t want to party up with me, they even say "gayboy don’t party up", some even leave mid-game so they don’t have to play with me.

Flynn DeMarco follows up the original post on Gaygamer.net by saying:

Back when we were hacked, the story got around to various websites and the one question that many uninformed readers asked was "Why does there need to be a gay gaming website? Can't we all just be gamers? Why do they have to segregate themselves?" I think one viewing of this video will explain exactly why.

The whole thing just solidifies my preference for staying wihin my own friends list when I'm looking for some online play. It would be nice if Microsoft would add to their list of play zones on the XBL Gamer Profile (Pro, Underground, etc.) with a category for "Douchebag" so some of these guys' gamercards would be a little more accurate. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Flynn.

 

 



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I think Toast puts it well, sexual orientation has fuck all to do with gaming. I cannot stand the whole 'Gay pride' rubbish. I have absolutely no problem with gay people and I don't feel uncomfo......



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bottled dark at 11/26/2007 16:43

omg.

xbox live is an asshole.
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smurfee mcgee at 11/26/2007 16:47

i won't feel so bad next time i get pwned, knowing the kind of people that play Halo.
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HawtPawkitHero at 11/26/2007 16:49

Lol.
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Corncobtacular at 11/26/2007 16:53

maybe it's the fact that i went to an all guys high school, but that didn't seem as bad as your description made it out to be. Yeah they were complete douches, but i feel like i hear that same banter in almost every game of Halo i play on xbox live
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king3vbo at 11/26/2007 16:54

wow, that is fucking lose. But any Halo match you come into is full of assholes who relish the Internet Fuckwad Theory (A voice + total anonymity = fuckwad).
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king3vbo at 11/26/2007 16:55

oops forgot to add:

I only play online with people on my friends list. This is a good example of why. I dont like being around people who are fuckwads for no reason
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3r0t1c n3rd at 11/26/2007 16:57

Idiots like those people make me sick. And angry. What's is their problem? ...Besides beeing retarded.
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Puppetpallmich at 11/26/2007 16:59

i lold
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Hamza CTZ Aziz at 11/26/2007 16:59

I have seen Flynn DeMarco half naked before.
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Fugue at 11/26/2007 17:00

The only way I can stand to play with strangers over Live is if I'm in a party with friends.
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Topher Cantler at 11/26/2007 17:02

Live gives fucktards who are/were picked on in school a chance to act like assholes themselves. Chances are, these dickwads had just come home from being stuffed into a locker somewhere and relieved of their lunch money.

Wish I could be that tough and manly. :P
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RivaOni at 11/26/2007 17:02

This is what happens when retards are allowed to use the internet in whatever manner.

However, I've heard far worse than that on live though, and despite not being related to homophobia it was still pretty damn shocking, I was in a room of Halo whilst some Scouse girl was, according to her, taking heroin and breast feeding whilst we were in the lobby waiting for a game.
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atheistium at 11/26/2007 17:04

If your a girl its tough but apparently being gay its a fucking mission.

To be fair when gayboy had the bomb and the guy was saying about shaking his ass.. I found that really funny. Most of the 'gay' jokes I found funny. It's more the wanting to kill, hurt etc etc. I'm not into that.

Thing is gay gamers are not rare on XBL. When I played on my friends XBL my first friend added was gay. We played DOA4 and he taught me some basic stuff. He has a 'DIVA' clan and invited me to join. It was too funny I couldn't resist and the guys were generally a good laugh gay or not.

User names are always going to cause some controversy like if I called myself "gamergrrl9" or something. I'm going to get bugged more than my 'atheistium' tag does.

Good to see this brought out to the open, surprised they blanked the names out. If i was getting so much shit from people I'd be happy to name and shame.
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vexed alex at 11/26/2007 17:04

This is fucking disgusting. Idiots like those make the rest of the XBOX Live and even the Halo 3 players look like complete ignorant morons.

You know, I say as a community, we should all spam the shit out of FriendlyUncle. No joke. Down? Anyone down?
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vexed alex at 11/26/2007 17:08

Why did he blur out the Gamertags? They should be exposed and banned. No fucking joke.
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Namelessted at 11/26/2007 17:08

that video is obnoxious.
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Christiangamer at 11/26/2007 17:09

Yeah, I kinda know how that feels. Although if I saw the name GayBoy online I would personally be thinking that it was a joke name. It would be like if I used the name JesusFreak. Personally I would have a different meaning for the name than other people. I feel for ya, bro. Gamertag: Cheesemaster64 (worst name EVAR.)
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dvddesign at 11/26/2007 17:09

As THE person who pretended to be GayBear on XBL two months ago to add to the whole GayBear illusion, this site's FNF gamers are much more mature and responsible than ANYONE you see or hear in this video.

Pat yourselves on the back for not being dickholes like these guys.
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Jark212 at 11/26/2007 17:14

Christions and Nazis and Republicans, Oh My!!!
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poonster at 11/26/2007 17:15

that's exactly why i never play on Xbox Live.i only play single player games.i get enough shit from my girlfriend about playing games i don't need some 12 year old hick shouting insults at me,don't get me wrong i can give as good as i get but after awhile it's just pointless.
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BlackbeardonGuitar at 11/26/2007 17:16

Okay yeah people were douchebags and I won't excuse that because like life, xbox live has a bunch of assholes. However when you decide that everyone else needs to know you're gay and you expect your name not to get any response whatsoever, it's almost trolling for a response.
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ToasT at 11/26/2007 17:18

"Back when we were hacked, the story got around to various websites and the one question that many uninformed readers asked was "Why does there need to be a gay gaming website? Can't we all just be gamers? Why do they have to segregate themselves?" I think one viewing of this video will explain exactly why."

No, viewing this video doesn't answer the question. Why do they (gay gamers) feel they need to mix gaming with sexuality? I get that they are a minority and feel they need a special interest group, but there is no need to flaunt. I would not change my name to ChickFucker (if I could that is) and not expect any comments about it.
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Eschatos at 11/26/2007 17:18

That's just sad. At least now I have a good reason not to have an Xbox 360.
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solidunit at 11/26/2007 17:20

lolz. funniest youtube video i've seen in a while
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B-Radicate at 11/26/2007 17:20

WOW. What assholes. I say he reposts that video with ALL of the gamertags visible and we collectively spam their accounts with negative feedback and hopefully get them all banned.

What fucktards.
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Your moms new boyfriend at 11/26/2007 17:27

That was both awesome and sad at the same time.
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DaTgUy at 11/26/2007 17:29

Although XBL has its douchebags, I find the Halo community alone is the most unbearable group of rejects on any game I have ever played in my life...I learned this playing Halo2 online and I have never gone back. Its pretty bad how a community can ruin what has the potential to be an amazing game
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ScottyG at 11/26/2007 17:30

Hmmm... I'm about to trade in a bunch of my games and drop a few hundred bucks to get into this loveliness...

Maybe I'll get a PS3 instead, or put the money towards upgrading my computer. :p

...

Just kidding. From everything I hear most of this behavior happens in Halo games, and I have no desire to play a completely average first person shooter with (from what I've been told) a viciously competitive online arena.
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ghettosmurf at 11/26/2007 17:34

As mentioned above, I didn't find that to be nearly as bad as it was made out to be. There's surely some haters in there, but there were a few people rolling with it too, and some pretty choice quotes that I couldn't help but laugh at. kudos to teh gayboy
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foxhound009 at 11/26/2007 17:38

ban the trolls ;P sen the movie to the ms and that's it. let there be discrimination in whatever form no more :P
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Lethal Dosage at 11/26/2007 17:39

However when you decide that everyone else needs to know you're gay and you expect your name not to get any response whatsoever, it's almost trolling for a response.

Why? Why should having the word "gay" in your name immediately justify the ignorant words of some fucking 13 year old, immature, dick-joke centric homophobes? Seriously. Regardless of name, the creator of the video did nothing absolutely nothing to provoke these "people" into verbally assaulting him.

The Live community as a whole is something I generally avoid, but the Halo community is literally the worst community on the gaming planet, and it's not even close. I'd have them all killed if I could.

I wish the video creator would've left the names uncensored. The public needs to see what a bunch of assholes think they're saying anonymously.
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intimate at 11/26/2007 17:42

Is this the comment thread to post in demanding Nintendo release a headset for Wii online games?

This pretty much sums up the argument against doing just that. People can't be trusted.
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Teamjesus at 11/26/2007 17:43

I say that little kid saying he hopes Gayboy goes to hell will have a surprise waiting for him near the end of his lifespan, I should know.
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monosylabik at 11/26/2007 17:44

im sorry but who would put gayboy as a gamertag?
arent you just asking to be ridiculed by the mouthbreathers on live?
this seems more like flame bait than any sort of conclusive evidence that xbox live is filled with a bunch of assholes (which everyone already knows it is).8 times out of ten ive never encountered a bad match.
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vexed alex at 11/26/2007 17:50

@ ToasT

"I would not change my name to ChickFucker (if I could that is) and not expect any comments about it."

People wouldn't give you any comments on it. That's the problem. You can be vaginaSucker and not get any crap for it. I don't understand why you'd expect people to try and offend you for "fucking chicks." There should be no problem at all for him having the gamertag xxx GayBoy xxx. That's like me doing something wrong for having a gamertag like Mexican Alex.

"No, viewing this video doesn't answer the question."

Are you blind or just fucking retarded? The reason for that website is to be able to be an open homosexual and talk about games without having to go through bullshit. They have it so they can socialize openly.
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MissHinasaki at 11/26/2007 17:54

Whether its stupid to have the word "gay" in your gamertag or not is irrelevant. Just the fact that their name alone was the reason for the harassment is ridiculous. As disgusting as it is, the only thing you can really do about it is not play on Live. And find out where those assholes live and beat the shit out of them.
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raucci at 11/26/2007 17:55

wow... epic fail

Why doesn't anyone stand up for him though? Totally ridiculous, i can't believe I live on the same planet as some of these folks.
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Sir-G at 11/26/2007 17:57

And people hate Nintendo because of friends codes for what reason again???
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vampireblood at 11/26/2007 17:58

I'm my GOSH! Stop it, Stop it!

lol that's funny!
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kadosho at 11/26/2007 18:01

One of the major reasons why i didnt buy Halo 3 (but traded my copy of Halo 2). Things aside, I've had a bit of fun matchups with various gamers online (those on my friends list). Forget random matchmaking, unless you've got a team going together.

Some people are just childish online, and only get their kicks by pushing others. Guess they didnt learn anything from their school days. --,
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Leon-G at 11/26/2007 18:03

Well this is kinda weird because I play on halo 3 online all the time and I guess I just dont share the same experiences you other Dtoiders do. Sure once in a while (maybe every 6th match) ill find myself in a lobby with some idiot who thinks that since im not there to punch him in the throat he can say whatever he wants, but overall iv found the players in halo 3 to be as respectable if not more so than other online games. If theyre on your team theyre ready to co-operate and if you opposed them, you will often hear things like "good game" being stated in the post game lobby. I can also assure you that i dont take part in any internet douchebaggery and when I encounter those that do, I either rant at them about what scum they are in a condescending manor or mute them, either option is equally satisfying and those undesirable people are almost always in the minority.
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Dr Milkdad at 11/26/2007 18:05

God damnit, I hate people so much.

This is why I don't play on Live with people I don't know, they are all retards and make non stop retarded comments I don't want to hear.

I prefer retarded comments from my friends. Stay away from public matches.
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Samit Sarkar at 11/26/2007 18:06

That video was some sad commentary on the current American attitude toward gays. I’m 100% straight, but I see no problem with gay marriage...what’s it to me if two guys want to get married? That’s their business and their business alone. I enjoy playing Warhawk online, mostly because the kinda shit you hear while playing it — while by no means completely clean or socially acceptable — doesn’t even come close to this lowbrow crap. This is one of the reasons I’m glad I don’t own a 360 and specifically, why I’m glad I don’t play Halo.
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brad drac at 11/26/2007 18:07

I'm sorry, but anyone seriously offended by this video kind of fails at the internet. It was fucking hillarious. Sure, a few people were just plain shitty assholes, but by and large the people just seemed to be jossing him. And for the record, any queermo person that would use the tag "gayboy" has enough of a sense of humour to deal with that shit(I'm pretty sure anyway). I'm not saying live doesn't have a problem with intolerant fuckwads who are immaculate arguments for ethnic cleansing, but that video only illustrated that at least it could be funny too. I might be way off base here, but I'm quite certain my gay friends would agree. That however could be a cultural thing, irish people tend to have a pretty thick skin due to our constant slagging of pretty much everything.
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flameon4444 at 11/26/2007 18:09

@ Lethal Dosage

Thank You. That hit the nail on the head. Why is it trolling to have your gamertag include something that says you are gay? No one has any issue with you saying that you are black or asian or short or a marine or a music fan or whatever. A gamertag is a short ID that you are comfortable with. If your sexuality is something you want to include in that, who should give a fuck? Like everyone else has said, I'd really like to see those gamertags in the video, just so I could beat the everliving shit out of them in a match an let them know they were just trounced by a homo. It would be like my own personal achievements list

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Colette Bennett at 11/26/2007 18:12

While this does disgust me, the general demographic of Halo players was evident long before someone chose to try this experiment. I don't think it's right, but I do think using a provocative name in a group of people who have already been identified as non-acceptant is asking for trouble. I'm pretty sure if I go play on Live with a Gamertag called vagina4sale, I would get a lot of shit too.

This is why I don't play on Live unless it's with friends.
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choppu at 11/26/2007 18:13

I think it's absolutely hilarious. Call me an asshole, but I really don't like gay people.
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SH0RYUK3N at 11/26/2007 18:16

This is why I play H3 on mute. I only turn volume up with I'm playing with someone on my FL and even then we have a separate chat room.
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Edarios at 11/26/2007 18:20

play on PC.
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conglomerate at 11/26/2007 18:21

personally, my icon is a pink unicorn...and i get the antigay talk rants.
but my friends and i just say how we're jocks who like to date rape. and natty ice.

no, i'm not gay, i'm just rad.
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kahjah at 11/26/2007 18:22

You can't be gay or black on XBL without hearing lots of bullshit. XBL is the most racist, homophobic places on the web
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conglomerate at 11/26/2007 18:23

and yes, it's an invisible pink unicorn.
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d0nfil0fi0 at 11/26/2007 18:23

Friend Codes +1

...ehm... Actually, I still think they are pretty long and is kind of stupid to have One Friend Code for each game but at least you don't find people like this in your games.

Well, besides all the penises and nazi symbols in Mario Kart DS...
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Husky Hog at 11/26/2007 18:31

Yeah I wish the gamer zones actually functioned, but you know they would all join the 'clean' zone
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ToasT at 11/26/2007 18:32

@ vexed alex

You missed the whole point of my comment. Sexual orientation has no place in gaming. He and other gays would not have any problems if they didn't flaunt the fact that they were gay. Don't give me that crap about their speach either. There is no biological change that occurs when someone decides to come out of the closet that makes they have a gay lisp. That is just another way of flaunting and asking for attention whether positive or negative.

On another note, I do not condone the people who were being hateful, I just feel that he was asking for it (expecting it as well by setting up a recording device). What he did not include are the positive interactions he had as well.
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angusm at 11/26/2007 18:35

Wow, I've never felt the urge to bring my sexuality into my gaming tag.
But bein a dude who's kissed dudes, shit like this makes me sick. Not those who made jokes, but those who really spread hate.
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Skallah at 11/26/2007 18:37

I lol'd... a whole lot.

Mostly because I seem to always be paired up with these types of assholes playing slayer.

I kill more people with the mute button then I do assault rifle.
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Teh_zombs at 11/26/2007 18:38

Choppu, you're an asshole.
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Cycophuk at 11/26/2007 18:39

I had something kinda close happen to me when I first got on to Live. I have a Japanese gamertag, though I am American. I didn't have a mic yet, but I just got Gears of War. I had heard how great the online was and really wanted to try it. I was meet with some of the rudest xenophobia. Everyone was trying their hardest to rag on me. Of course, I couldn't respond to point out their stupidity and that made it worse. I tried a couple of rooms and pretty much encountered the same thing. The combo of being new at the game and the Japanese GT made a huge target. It was really sad. I haven't been back on. Partly because of that, partly becasue I moved on to other games. I felt like shit having to listen to those jerk offs slam me for being something I wasn't. I couldn't imagine being insulted for something I am.
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Aerox at 11/26/2007 18:40

@ToasT

Yet if you look at Dtoid, tons of people have pictures of boobs or hot chicks as their avatars, a lot of people's blogs and profiles have ass shots and talk of having sex with significant others, and even a number of front page stories (For example, the Hot Men article that Faith put up) have to do with people "flaunting" their sexuality or bringing it into gaming. Hell, Dtoid even has a special forum tag for girls that says "I've seen her boobies." People go out of their way to talk about how much they like girls and boobs, why is it so offensive if a gay person happens to mention they're gay?
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timtheterrible at 11/26/2007 18:40

@Colette

You beat me to it. Most of the people on live are assholes because of the anonymity, so why give them ammunition with an obviously inflammatory live i.d., unless that was the point in the first place...
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rubadub at 11/26/2007 18:42

Someone should send that to the ACLU just for fun and to see what they say.
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ruckus at 11/26/2007 18:46

@flameon4444

LOL! If I had a 360 I'd help w/ the smackdown...
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ToasT at 11/26/2007 18:51

@ Aerox

It goes both ways. That is why I mentioned what I don't do as far as my gamer tag in my previous comment(I would not get the grief however due to the majority) It is also true that a lot of games appeal to a sexual orientation but Halo is not one of them and it is one of the reasons that I don't buy games like Katamari or DOA.
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Topher Cantler at 11/26/2007 18:53

@Choppu- You're an asshole.

@timtheterrible, Toast, etc.- That was the point in the first place.
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Woocifer at 11/26/2007 18:54

I find it odd if these people really hated homosexuals, why did they bother to continue playing Halo with one? Personally I don't care for people talkin about who or what they are when it has nothing to do with any of my interest, however this just goes to show that faceless communication will let anyone speak whatever nonsense they want. This is not a reflection of how things are in a social setting because guaranteed if those dorks were at any event or any situation that had more couth or standards than a game of Halo 3, they would never open their mouths to say any shit towards anyone because they would sorely be outnumbered by those who would just say Man shut the fuck up idiot.

However...I will say this, it didn't sound like GayBoy was being anonymous with anything to do with his sexual preferences...plus it sounded like he was egging some people on at times. But you have to expect a name like that will cause people(in a leisurely situation) to attack and poke fun at it because again it's a low brow, low level, low responsibility/accountability situation for any of these guys who are just gettin off on competitive video games.

If the person's nickname was "XXX I AM A GIRL WHO LIKES PENIS XXX" do you think it would be left alone?

Here's an idea... if you don't want to get shit slung at you, don't fucking put anything remotely personal in your nickname.

You knew this would happen...so smarten up. You're gay sure, but extremely naive? FUCK YES.

Oh and btw... take your social tests somewhere not polluted by the most mindless of demographics ==XBOX LIVE...and yes this was a fucking test, don't think this wasn't a huge prompt to make it look like the world is hunting gay people...I for one have never seen any homosexual jumped or being beaten at all, let alone in any socially populated area that isn't shifty or shady... and personally I would help stop that because someone being pummeled has nothing to do with anal sex...which essentially is all male homosexual activity is apart from any heterosexual activity. Fucking christ get over it... so a guy digs another guy... you don't have to fuck either of them, so get over it!
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Lukich at 11/26/2007 19:04

Not to justify what was said, but as others have pointed out, this is not a new thing.
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Patriot SE at 11/26/2007 19:05

I really wish those names were not blurred out. I suffer a similar problem though, I go into games and people automatically start to harass me for being a general... so fucking what I am better then you. The best though is when someone has a guest over and they have to act as my friend so perfectly put it....online tough guys. With nothing better to do or prove then run around on a video game and harass someone for whatever reason just to impress their little friends back home.
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Jim Sterling at 11/26/2007 19:05

Always amuses me that it's the dumb sounding inbred rednecks or whiny little kids who act like they're superior to other races and sexualities. Stupid fucking retards.

Homophobes are rubbish, and studies show that they're more likely to have homosexual tendencies than any other "straight" people. So they can fuck off.
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Anemone at 11/26/2007 19:10

Sadly I expect this thing when I play Halo games. When I first played Halo 3 online I was shit talked and tea bagged in the first game I played. It really felt like Halo. I will say that when people have names that stand out people often give them issues over it. My one friend used the name "AGoatOnAcid" in Halo 2. Nearly every single match, at least one person would say his name upon joining, many started talking shit immedately. I can only imagine how much worse it would be if you used the word gay in your name given the Madden-esque crowd's preference for Halo, because Halo is "cool" where as something like playing UT3/2004 or CS would be beneath them.
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MarginalMeaning at 11/26/2007 19:11

This is really depressing, and makes me glad I sold my copy of Halo 3 away.

Anyways, it may seem to be a purposeful egg on to have a tag like xxxgayboyxxx, but I feel that people shouldn't give a crap about what a person's gamertag is. It just goes to show how immature and retarded a lot of people on live are (as if nobody already knew). I never use the mic unless I'm playing with friends.
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StolenName at 11/26/2007 19:15

Huh.
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Leon-G at 11/26/2007 19:19

Oh and ill also say that despite its tendency to cause conflict and provoke people, I respect a tag like Gayboy a hell of a lot more than a name like XxXCMURDAHITMANMURDAMURDACASHMUNNYXxX319943. do people have any idea how hard that shit is to read on a 24 inch standard definition tv from 1993. Just put a pronounceable name please, no crazy number combinations, designs, or needless capitalization please.
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TJH518 at 11/26/2007 19:22

Ok most of these guys sounded like assholes we can all agree on that. But some sounded kinda relaxed and just interested in it. Most guys will joke around with people. Me and my friends are straight and one of our friends was gay and we would always joke around like that with him, maybe not so crudely. I remember one time he was talking about cleaning and how it relaxes him like gardening, me and my friend just laughed and looked at him and said "Well yeah, your gay!" This is the attitude it seemed SOME of the guys in this video had, probably only a couple of them.