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Halo 2 maps reborn for Halo: Reach photo

Fan of the maps "Ivory Tower" and "Midship" from Halo 2? Great news -- Bungie has reworked those maps for the upcoming Halo: Reach.

The map known as "Reflection" in Halo: Reach is said to be a near-perfect remake of "Ivory Tower," the main differences being technical, like changes to fit Reach's new physics systems. However, because of the game's new abilities, playing on the map should feel quite different. Jet packs and sprinting will make certain jumps easier, for instance.

Another map, "Zealot" is based heavily on Halo 2's "Midship," although not a one-to-one remake. While the lower portion of the map will feel familiar, a brand new upper level opens up a slew of new gameplay and strategic options.

IGN has more details on both maps, along with a third, called "Spire." Halo: Reach is out September 14. You're buying it, right?

Halo: Reach Gets Halo 2 Map Remakes and the Spire
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Pumpkin King's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 10:46
Pumpkin King
Awesome.
Bluj162's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 10:48
Bluj162
I guess Activision and Bungie use the same playbook.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 10:51
manasteel88
shut one down and then resell it...brilliant
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 10:51
Xzyliac
@Bluj162
Because, ya know, no one did this before those guys. It's not a thing that's be done in shooters forever.

Anyhow Midship was one of my absolute favorite Halo maps ever. Can't wait.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 10:54
Chris Carter
Ivory Tower was awesome - Midship was bland and blew ass.

Good enough for me!
Themightylebeau2009's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 10:59
Themightylebeau2009
Thought Midship was part of the Mythic pack too?
Ultramonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 10:59
Ultramonkey
Would like to see Snowbound from Halo:CE make a reappearence
Ultramonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 11:03
Ultramonkey
My bad...Sidewinder. Fucking hate Snowbound.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 11:19
Bob Muir
Ivory Tower was pretty cool back in the day, so this sounds good.
Stung47000's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 11:30
Stung47000
@Ultramonkey
"My bad...Sidewinder. Fucking hate Snowbound."

Yes, this. And new Ivory Tower looks gorgeous.
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 11:36
Tarvu
This makes a good point, I would rather play Halo 2 than Reach. Well, that's me sorted.
Robbo the hood's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 11:44
Robbo the hood
@Tarvu

Thanks for comin' out. At least you gave Reach a fair shot.
Beyamor's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 11:46
Beyamor
Dang, I was kinda hoping for, well, not Midship. But I'm a misanthrope that hates the happiness of others, so that's to be expected.
Brandon Himmelreich's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 11:49
Brandon Himmelreich
Halo 2 had some Marathon map remakes so whys it such a big deal if Reach has Halo 2 remakes? its a fan service, its not like Bungie sold these maps to you.
Sycomunkee's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 11:51
Sycomunkee
That is not Midship, Zealot is a completely new level. Ske7ch has mentioned this already over at the neogaf.com forums. The media has it wrong.

PROOF:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22676242&postcount=2271
commyzthatdont's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 11:52
commyzthatdont
I dont mind having remade maps shipped on the disc, but if they're going to charge for them as DLC down the line, thats not cool.

And as long as they dont remake any Halo 3 maps, because I dont think any of them were actually all that great.
Sycomunkee's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 11:55
Sycomunkee
Wait, Dream Crusher is Shishka not Ske7ch.
dreadthedead's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 12:18
dreadthedead
Any map is still going to feel different with the new armor abilities.
CormactheMac87's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 12:25
CormactheMac87
The new map spire looks amazing. Looks great for invasion
SuperMonk4Ever's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 12:46
SuperMonk4Ever
Midship? Again? Ugh, always hated that map. Ivory Tower on the other hand, that will be fun. Just throw Zanzibar back in there and I will be happy.
Blahblahblahblah's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 12:49
Blahblahblahblah
@Bluj162

They're bringing back maps that people loved back in Halo 2 days, not because they're lazy fuckers and can't come up with any ideas.
Sycomunkee's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 12:55
Sycomunkee
MIDSHIP IS NOT COMING BACK, SEE MY PREVIOUS POSTS. SHISHKA DENIED THIS RUMOR.

PROOF:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22676242&postcount=2271
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 13:04
Mr Andy Dixon
Neither of these really get my juices flowing, but I dig what they're doing. (I was much more into the big outdoor maps.)

And like Ultramonkey said, a Sidewinder remake would be great. That was my second favorite CE map after Blood Gulch.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 13:06
KingSigy
I really hate reworking old maps. How about you include brand new ones? These 2 maps are going to take away from a list that is only going to include 10 maps. What happened to having a game like UT2004? Why don't we get 56 maps?
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 13:20
Electrium
I hope Midship doesn't come back, they just remade that one for 3. Bleh.
Mithrot's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 13:29
Mithrot
@KingSigy

Consoles =/= PC, though even that alone shouldn't be an excuse.

I'm guessing they are making it short and sweet for when they pump out DLC mappacks, which I hear EVERYONE LOVES to get until Bungie sends out a compilation of all of them a few years later.
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 13:39
WarZombie
So Ivory Tower returns...FUCK YEAH.

I loved that map so damn much, I was wondering when it would get remade, if ever. Such good news. Also, Zealot looks nothing like Midship. Watch the video people, instead of complaining that it's getting remade again. Seriously, outside of the Covenant ship, it looks nothing like Midship.

And Spire looks awesome. Invasion was one of my favorite modes in the Beta, so I'm looking forward to playing on it.
McChiken's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 13:50
McChiken
Bungie tweeter at you guts that it's not a remake of midship
ndschroede23's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 14:07
ndschroede23
Maaan. I'd love to see a decent remake of Lockout (Blackout didn't do it for me). I'd also love to see - and maybe I'm in the minority on this - a remake of Waterworks. I had so many damn good CTF games on that map. These two, I played some forgettable slayer games and some frustrating-as-all-hell Assault games. Midship can be forgotten, please.
Toneman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 14:19
Toneman
I'm fine with remakes. Quite frankly their new maps have been lackluster.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 14:37
Darren Nakamura
This is cool, I guess. I'd rather have some Halo 1 maps, like Damnation, Chiron, or Boarding Action. Boarding Action would even make more sense with Reach, since they talk about the space battles in that one.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 14:41
Sharpless
They already remade Midship for Halo 3, didn't they? Or am I imagining that? Ivory Tower was pretty hot, though. I liked that one.
Time Glitch's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 15:30
Time Glitch
Guys...Bungie doesn't pull that crap with maps. They only remake maps they feel work in the new game, and that the community wanted. Plus, Zealot is an original map. Watch some videos, and you'll see it has very little to do with Midship. IGN just did their messy reporting and said it was. Bungie has confirmed that while it's inspired slightly by Midship, it is NOT an exact remake by any means.

Reporter here should change that...
ZombiePlatypus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 15:46
ZombiePlatypus
Needs more WATERWORKS...
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 16:17
Corduroy Turtle
I'm just hoping I can make Facility from GoldenEye with the map editor. That shit was tight.
ajaxender's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 17:14
ajaxender
Ivory Tower! Back in the day of the system link, that was our Sword-ball map, though we could play damn near anything on it. Great map.
Labyrinth666's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 19:02
Labyrinth666
HOLY SHIT THEY HAVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE, IT TOTALLY DESERVES AN ARTICLE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T EXPECT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 19:15
Tarvu
Actually, I'd rather play Marathon.

And hey, I gave the beta a fair chance. I'm not the Halo owning Publisher basically forcing Bungie to shit this one out!
Zach's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2010 21:56
Zach
Anybody else want a water works remake it would work perfectly for this game.
OatmealNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2010 00:33
OatmealNinja
@dexter
FUCK CHIRON
FUCK CHIRON UP THE ASS.
That being said Rat race could use a remake.
omfgdrphl's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2010 01:38
omfgdrphl
Oh boy did Chiron make my head hurt back in the day. XD
Etalyx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2010 02:01
Etalyx
No, actually, I'm not buying it Nick Chester.
Aaron Jackson's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2010 10:06
Aaron Jackson
Midship? God dammit Bungie we already have it on Halo 3...I don't want to see the same fucking thing in Reach. Jesus..
Arclight's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2010 10:42
Arclight
Tired of Midship actually, probably just because of how terrible it is in H3.
Yarn Kirby's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2010 19:54
Yarn Kirby
I cannot wait
SAMA1984's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2010 23:26
SAMA1984
What, no love for Ascension and Foundation?

Forget it, I'm sure someone will recreate them in Forge.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2010 16:40
Dan CiTi
People liked the Halo 2 maps?
insomniak08's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2010 17:01
insomniak08
Usually I am a huge fan of map remakes but if the new Forge is as good as they say im pretty sure people would have remade all the old maps anyway. Also I hated midship so I hope they change it pretty significantly.
Orionsaint's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/09/2010 01:23
Orionsaint
Halo 2 lives on!
waves's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/09/2010 06:46
waves
This should probably be updates. Zealot is not a midship remake, it's a new map.

From Bungie's 8.6.10 weekly update:

"In the midst of our most recent multimedia mélange, Chris Carney might have told some reporters that Zealot was quite a bit like Midship. And while it’s true that both multiplayer offerings take place aboard a Covenant vessel, and that both boast the same boisterously purple color palette, that’s where the stark similarities end. Zealot is its own thing, even if we did call it Aftship during production. "

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_080610
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