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He's got to be joking around. I mean, what the fuck is productive about Gundam? I agree Jim, Gundam is certainly a bigger waste of your time than video games.
Gundam rots brains confirmed.
Gundam rots brains confirmed.
i really hope Tomino is joking, i love both video games and gundam because they are both an incredible waste of time.
A few things. Tomino is batshit insane. This is pretty much fact, at this point. I'm a huge fan of Gundam, especially the Universal Century stories that Tomino created. The stories are good and really explore war in a meaningful and interesting way. Seriously, the dude's crazy.
Tomino's a nutjob, you just need to watch Overman King Gainer for...hell just watch the opening animation of that show. And it's clear that Tomino is on the Hediki Anno End of the Crazomonitor.
Lets just ban music and movies while we're at it. I'm sure between 10 bands that take large venues are wasting tons of electricity to create their shows. And surely more electricity is used in movie theaters to power all the shitty romantic comedies and Michael Bay films every month than is spent in gaming every year.
Maybe they don't particularly contribute to society in significant ways but neither does an anime whose followers spend all their time watching, and if not, then talking about the show (I've met a couple) rather than something that can at least have a social context to it.
Maybe they don't particularly contribute to society in significant ways but neither does an anime whose followers spend all their time watching, and if not, then talking about the show (I've met a couple) rather than something that can at least have a social context to it.
Any kind of entertainment would be a waste of time if you go by his logic. What does it takes to create that waste of time? People. People get jobs to do this, making their part in society.
Same goes for movies, television.
The dude did not think that one through.
Same goes for movies, television.
The dude did not think that one through.
yeah...cause TV's don't consume electricity. Tomino supported such a large consumption of electricity and now wants to criticize a medium that does exactly the same as he did when he made the first gundam anime.
I wouldn't say that Gundam is evil though, just not necessarily good.
I wouldn't say that Gundam is evil though, just not necessarily good.
I can only imagine that: He considers Gundam productive due to the fact that with it, he's attempting to illuminate the human condition, especially about war.
Fair enough. Some video games do this, too.
Fair enough. Some video games do this, too.
Woah Jim this must be the one article where you haven't added some sort of negative spin to make the guy sound worse! I can't believe the man who made Gundam, a series that although good can usually be summed up in:
Pilot is better than rest of team, Pilot is deemed sole hero compered to the waves of idiots in other robots, FIGHT!
And has a francise of toys, clothes and video games themselves, just called video games a waste of resources. I live in the UK, a place where everyone is really anal about recycling and saving the planet and you can't watch TV without seeing someone whine about it, yet even I don't think I can up and call a whole industry a waste of resources. What a dick!
@dmgi
That's only the really crazy ones and usually the rest of them try to place themselves as ar away as those "Japanimation!" loving freaks. They're the reason that I finally decided it was time to stop reading manga before I became one of them but please don't sink to is level and start sterotyping whole groups of people. We're better than that.
Pilot is better than rest of team, Pilot is deemed sole hero compered to the waves of idiots in other robots, FIGHT!
And has a francise of toys, clothes and video games themselves, just called video games a waste of resources. I live in the UK, a place where everyone is really anal about recycling and saving the planet and you can't watch TV without seeing someone whine about it, yet even I don't think I can up and call a whole industry a waste of resources. What a dick!
@dmgi
That's only the really crazy ones and usually the rest of them try to place themselves as ar away as those "Japanimation!" loving freaks. They're the reason that I finally decided it was time to stop reading manga before I became one of them but please don't sink to is level and start sterotyping whole groups of people. We're better than that.
That's a rather surprising thing for him to say, given how many video games have been released that use his series as source material.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/buried-treasure/2007-09-20
This is what the creator of Gundam makes when he strays from his one trick pony.
This is what the creator of Gundam makes when he strays from his one trick pony.
Wait, wouldn't creating impractically designed bipedal robots and then having emotionally unstable teenagers pilot said robots so that they can go out and witness the living hell that is war be construed as the least bit evil? Yoshiyuki had better be joking because this makes absolutely no sense to me.
Here are a list of things that are more likely to destroy the planet than videogames:
1) Simon Cowell
2) Another CSI spinoff
3) Bits of popcorn that get stuck in your teeth
4) A "Carrot Top" movie
5) Kellogg's Sugar Frosted Crack Flakes
6) A Judd Apatow movie without Seth Rogen
1) Simon Cowell
2) Another CSI spinoff
3) Bits of popcorn that get stuck in your teeth
4) A "Carrot Top" movie
5) Kellogg's Sugar Frosted Crack Flakes
6) A Judd Apatow movie without Seth Rogen
Eh, don't listen to this crazy senile old man!
I'm gonna throw something for this statement at Tomino when I see at the upcoming NYAF!
I'm gonna throw something for this statement at Tomino when I see at the upcoming NYAF!
Wow, the video game community is really taking Tomino's comments poorly. He'd probably like that. However, I think it's important to understand two things: One, that he probably said this specifically to piss everyone off, and two, that he made a very good point.
Obviously, the creator of Gundam is not telling anyone to stop producing entertainment. He's not even saying video games shouldn't exist. What he's doing is looking at a young media industry and saying "You can do better.". He's looking down on all the games that fail to speak to the human condition on any level. This is the exact same attitude he has towards animation, possibly towards all media, and the reason he created Gundam in the first place.
Any argument that starts with "What does he know, they've made tons of shit Gundam games and anime" doesn't confront his arguments (and if you're really going to think or say something like that, please grow up). Tomino doesn't own Gundam, and it's not at all his fault that, without his involvement, Bandai and Sunrise have transformed it into a soulless marketing juggernaut. This doesn't change the fact that his original Gundam was something beyond the typical cartoon show and really does give him the experience to say "Your silly toys can still be silly, but at the same time can be so much more."
Are you seriously going to argue that Tomino is not an accomplished creator? That he actually has no idea what he's talking about? Even if you don't like something (or everything) about the shows he's directed, the man has consistently tried to create a product that is above mindless entertainment. Also, "Well I thought Gundam was shite" is not a counter argument.
So come on people, stop being so blindly offended by his comments that you fail to see his argument. If you value games like Ico over Gears of War, you probably agree with him.
Obviously, the creator of Gundam is not telling anyone to stop producing entertainment. He's not even saying video games shouldn't exist. What he's doing is looking at a young media industry and saying "You can do better.". He's looking down on all the games that fail to speak to the human condition on any level. This is the exact same attitude he has towards animation, possibly towards all media, and the reason he created Gundam in the first place.
Any argument that starts with "What does he know, they've made tons of shit Gundam games and anime" doesn't confront his arguments (and if you're really going to think or say something like that, please grow up). Tomino doesn't own Gundam, and it's not at all his fault that, without his involvement, Bandai and Sunrise have transformed it into a soulless marketing juggernaut. This doesn't change the fact that his original Gundam was something beyond the typical cartoon show and really does give him the experience to say "Your silly toys can still be silly, but at the same time can be so much more."
Are you seriously going to argue that Tomino is not an accomplished creator? That he actually has no idea what he's talking about? Even if you don't like something (or everything) about the shows he's directed, the man has consistently tried to create a product that is above mindless entertainment. Also, "Well I thought Gundam was shite" is not a counter argument.
So come on people, stop being so blindly offended by his comments that you fail to see his argument. If you value games like Ico over Gears of War, you probably agree with him.
In other news....Seth Rogen is Jewish.
Is he? I didn't even know...does it matter? I guess....Maybe?
Is he? I didn't even know...does it matter? I guess....Maybe?
without videogames there would have been no reason to drive our technology to emulate physics, emotions, and the real world. without videogames our computers would probably suck ass and gundam would still be done by hand rather than computers.
Because spending hours painting and putting together an eight inch model of a robot to be displayed on a dusty shelf is so much more productive.
The only thing left in this case is to lol.
@relucatant playtpus
I take Ico over GoW but I still know that it was a really stupid statement.
@relucatant playtpus
I take Ico over GoW but I still know that it was a really stupid statement.
Wait, I'm confused...some weird anime about robots blowing each other up isn't a waste of time.
Remember the movie "Titanic"? Now that was a waste of time.
Remember the movie "Titanic"? Now that was a waste of time.
"I think that [anime shows] are evil," he says in his CEDEC keynote. "[anime shows] is not a type of activity that provides any support to our daily lives, and all these consoles are just consuming electricity! Let's say we have about three billion people on this planet wasting their time, bringing no productivity at all. Add 10 billion more people, and what would happen to our planet? [anime shows] are assisting the death of our planet!"
Now I love anime, but c'mon Tomino-san, quit being a dick. Or is he upset more people play games then watch his show?
Now I love anime, but c'mon Tomino-san, quit being a dick. Or is he upset more people play games then watch his show?
I love how Jim shakes the box o' fanboys on a daily basis. This shit is highly entertaining to read.
I think that video games are evil. Watching anime is not a type of activity that provides any support to our daily lives, and all these TVs are just consuming electricity! Let's say we have about three billion people on this planet wasting their time, bringing no productivity at all. Add 10 billion more people, and what would happen to our planet? Anime is assisting the death of our planet!
tl;dr version of article: I'm butt hurt over what some stupid person said so I'm going to hate on anime.
Perhaps he hates himself, has low self esteem and has realized his boring Gundam anime is also a waste of time so he's trying to change his spiritual outlook. Bipolar nut job.
A accuses B of X
A is also a perpetrator of X
B is exonerated
whoops like you Tu Quoque'd, destructoid.
that's okay, it happens.
in brief: hypocrisy on his part doesn't make what he says wrong.
does anybody want to make a case for video games NOT consuming massive amount of power and contributing nothing constructive to society, or are we just playing the smacktard because we know he's right?
videogames are like beer, porno, and summer blockbusters we don't need to excuse them as culturally sound
but we also don't get to pretend they are if they're not
A is also a perpetrator of X
B is exonerated
whoops like you Tu Quoque'd, destructoid.
that's okay, it happens.
in brief: hypocrisy on his part doesn't make what he says wrong.
does anybody want to make a case for video games NOT consuming massive amount of power and contributing nothing constructive to society, or are we just playing the smacktard because we know he's right?
videogames are like beer, porno, and summer blockbusters we don't need to excuse them as culturally sound
but we also don't get to pretend they are if they're not
Am I crazy, or aren't there Gundam video games? I'm sure I remember playing a demo of a Gundam game at Gamestop once.
You'd think the guy that made amazing shows Zeta Gundam and and Turn A Gundam would have his head on straight. Anyway, anime can do more than just be entertainment just like any other form of entertainment, including video games.
I love how people go "Well what about all the pointless Gundam games!?" as if Tomino had a say in them. Tomino stopped directing Gundam shows in the 90s with Turn-A-Gundam, meaning he has no responsibility for the atrocities of Gundam Wing, Gundam Seed, G Gundam, and any of the video games.
Mobile Suit Gundam, Zeta Gundam, Double Zeta, Victory Gundam, Gundam F91, Char's Counterattack, and Turn-A are the only series he has ever directed (which are arguably the most intellectual series of the entire franchises). So whatever "shit" series you watched, chances are that Tomino had no involvement in them. And as someone pointed earlier, he's not stating that video games shouldn't exist, but rather should improve.
And considering that he lives in Japan, which is swamped with date/sex/rape sims and cheesy JRPGs, I would bet that he is making these statements more towards the Japanese market.
But more importantly, there is more to what he said that was not posted:
"If finding answers to these questions were easy," continued Tomino, "then something better would have been out by now. Has there been anything better than Tetris since it first came out? How many years has it been? This is what I want to tell you: I want you to create a game that does not negatively affect our daily lives and is something that is considered more productive."
Why Jim omitted this part of it is dubious.
Mobile Suit Gundam, Zeta Gundam, Double Zeta, Victory Gundam, Gundam F91, Char's Counterattack, and Turn-A are the only series he has ever directed (which are arguably the most intellectual series of the entire franchises). So whatever "shit" series you watched, chances are that Tomino had no involvement in them. And as someone pointed earlier, he's not stating that video games shouldn't exist, but rather should improve.
And considering that he lives in Japan, which is swamped with date/sex/rape sims and cheesy JRPGs, I would bet that he is making these statements more towards the Japanese market.
But more importantly, there is more to what he said that was not posted:
"If finding answers to these questions were easy," continued Tomino, "then something better would have been out by now. Has there been anything better than Tetris since it first came out? How many years has it been? This is what I want to tell you: I want you to create a game that does not negatively affect our daily lives and is something that is considered more productive."
Why Jim omitted this part of it is dubious.
Also, edit above: The last part was mentioned, but why it seems to be ignored in the comments is beyond me. My apologies. Everything else still stands!
The more I read what he's said, the more he looks like an even bigger idiot. He's trying to say something, but in the rudest way possible. If he's "joking" he's choosing a pretty dumb place to do it. If he's joking or trying to say something about what videogames should be, he's doing wrong(or at least being a massive dick about it). If a lot of people listen to you, make sure you watch how you say things, not just what.
"Why Jim omitted this part of it is dubious."
We get only so much space allowance on the front page.
We get only so much space allowance on the front page.
@Revuhlooshun
You called G Gundam an atrocity and Victory Gundam good, your argument is officially jibberish no matter how legit it may actually be.
You called G Gundam an atrocity and Victory Gundam good, your argument is officially jibberish no matter how legit it may actually be.
Now Jim, there are a lot of Gundam series. You've got to be specific if you're going to say you find it poor, because if its ZZ Gundam or any AC, or CE era gundam series, a large majority of the fanbase is actually in agreement with you. Disappointing Yoshiyuki doesn't like videogames, but it would ACTUALLY be ironic if someone who represented Sunrise said this.
@ Reluctant Platypus
You know, playing the "I'm clearly the only one reasonably assessing this thing" card only works when you're actually doing that. Someone who is saying that video games are an evil force that are working to destroy the planet is either saying something inexcusably stupid or is 7 years-old. Yeah, saying "fuck off, you suck at anime" isn't really even an argument but when it's confronting "you're all evil and trying to kill the planet by being so useless" there isn't any reason for a legitimate dialogue.
You know, playing the "I'm clearly the only one reasonably assessing this thing" card only works when you're actually doing that. Someone who is saying that video games are an evil force that are working to destroy the planet is either saying something inexcusably stupid or is 7 years-old. Yeah, saying "fuck off, you suck at anime" isn't really even an argument but when it's confronting "you're all evil and trying to kill the planet by being so useless" there isn't any reason for a legitimate dialogue.
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