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Guitar Hero to become Rock Band: Activision promises new instruments, vocals photo

We all knew that the Guitar Hero franchise had its eyes set on more than just guitars. Trademarked potential titles like Keyboard Hero, Drum Hero, DJ Hero and even Guitar Villain and Drum Villain have all given clues as to the possible future of the series. However, Activision might be more keen than ever to step up its game in the wake of Rock Band's success, and rhythm game fans playing turncoat in its wake.

Activision CEO Bobby Kotick has promised that more instruments and vocals will be included in future titles, effectively stating that Guitar Hero will become Rock Band. With so many gamers now enjoying their sneering at Guitar Hero following Rock Band's release, I suppose I can't blame Activision for trying to reclaim the music game crown in such a way. 

Would you be interested in a Rock Band Hero? What would Activision have to do to tear you away from EA's rhythmic clutches?








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Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 20:56
Takeshi
They could tear me away by doing a normal priced world wide release.
pendelton21's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 20:56
pendelton21
...umm, how is this different from Rock Band? No, of course I wouldn't want a Rock Band hero! Harmonix saved the music-gaming scene with Guitar Hero, and again with Rock Band. Activision is just covering up for being moronic and letting Harmonix go.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 20:57
BluDesign
Too late. They fucked up with GH3 and made it harder.

Rock Band has the right balance of challenge and fun nailed a whole bunch better than what the Guitar Hero series morphed into once Harmonix jumped ship.
spiffy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 20:58
spiffy
To tear me away from Rock Band:
- Release the game to Australia sooner than "Never"
- Don't gouge the utter shit out of us in pricing
- Fall back to more sensible note charts and ditch the stupid battle modes
Newsworthy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 20:59
Newsworthy
Here in Australia, we wouldn't mind ANY sort of rock band thing. And for a decent price. Steal EA's thunder before Rock Band even gets here Activision, I beg you!
spiffy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 20:59
spiffy
Oh yeah, release functional instruments.
nukka jdav's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:02
nukka jdav
I'm too deep into Rock Band already, and it seems the folks at Harmonix are actually living up to their promises. Albums are finally releasing, and overall its just a fucking great experience.

There's no way in hell I'm gonna bust out another $100+ for a Rock Band Hero, I just don't trust Activision with the way they've been milking the franchise. Harmonix seems to actually be pushing the medium, not just trying to release a new game every 2 months with shittier and shittier music.
liquidninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:03
liquidninja
I guess they wish they'd never given up Harmonix now don't they?
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:04
tazarthayoot
I agree with DVD, Rock Band provides enough challenge for the hardcore Guitar Hero 1-2 fans but is pick up and play able enough for those who cant shred Through the fire and the flames. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm sticking with EA.
Upgrayedd's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:06
Upgrayedd
Make it good instead of just difficult.
DrkAdonis's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:07
DrkAdonis
They had me at "not EA"
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:11
Cheeburga
Rock Band is superior.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:12
Cowboy TTop
Don't tell me. I know, Activision are gonna introduce Busking Hero, with new money pot attachment.

Give this GH biz a rest, before you flog it to death.
Hamsizzla's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:12
Hamsizzla
Activision has one advantage. "guitar hero"
geekjutsu's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:12
geekjutsu
Good old Activision.
Milk that sucker for all it is worth.

I do not regret choosing Rock Band over Guitar Hero 3 whatsoever.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:13
Wedge
They could get Harmonix to make it. Oh wait...
Edwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:14
Edwood
Sounds better than a Dane Cook movie
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:14
Excel-2011
This situation brings to mind all those bands whose lead singers broke away from the rest of the band and became wildly successful solo while those left to die struggle to retain whatever image they have left.
FreedomToast's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:15
FreedomToast
the two games should have a werid cyborg baby
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:18
Xzyliac
This blows. As if the idea of them taking Harmonix' idea and raping it (again) isn't enough what really pisses me off is you know they won't make RB instruments compatible.

Harmonix 4 life.
brobots's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:19
brobots
I hate Activision.
That is all.
Scape's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:28
Scape
Fuck Activision, when am I going to be able to use my GHIII guitar with Rock Band on the PS3.

Has everyone forgotten about this?
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:35
mistic
I thought exactly the same about this news...
Robert's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:36
Robert
Fuck 'em. Guitar Hero lost me when I realized 1) they make notecharts pointlessly hard (but still doable), 2) the timing system was hardly adequate (you can continuously strum instead of playing the repeating triples at the beginning of Raining Blood and not miss many notes), 3) they suck at DLC, 4) their notecharts aren't even very accurate.

Watch a video of any of the Foo Fighters DLC and enjoy bullshitty 3-note chords being shoved down your throat.
kevvo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:38
kevvo
fuck guitar hero 3.

In harmonix we trust.....
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:44
JamnOnTheOne
Guitar Hero 3 failed because they listened to the hardcore GH demographic too much and we end up with the final song being 1000% harder than any previous GH game

Now it sounds as though they'll try and wedge the overly complex GH3 note patterns into a Rock band clone...boooo.
animateria's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 21:56
animateria
I'm not getting more peripherals cause you won't allow RB ones Activision!

Go fuck yourselves!
Teta's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 22:01
Teta
Activition sucks at dowmload content, one of the better things in Rock Band (IMHO).
So, or bring something super archi fantastabolic and new, or i´ll stick to my rock bands.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 22:02
Shin Oni
ahh I remember the days of when the big rythym and music games were just DDR, Guitar Freaks, and Beatmania and the many beat games of Bemani...
Dr Milkdad's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 22:04
Dr Milkdad
WoW, Neversoft is just BURNING with originality these days.

Don't be surprised when Tony Hawk 700 includes the revolutionary new original idea of preforming tricks with the right analog stick!! Totally came up with the idea themselves too!!

I find it really funny that EA has attached itself a game that redefined the music game genre, and themselves completely redefined skateboarding games. What a era we live in when they are the ones setting the example...
kwaselow's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 22:06
kwaselow
What can they do? Perhaps they could actually give us some fucking downloads.
AnotherCastle's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 22:19
AnotherCastle
Because I only own a Wii, I am interested in this. Activision put in the extra effort when it came to the Wii version of Guitar Hero, instead of some crappy PS2 port (You suck EA). If they do a good job, and include Def Leppard songs, I would totally buy it.

I reserve judgement until I see the periphs, however.
broonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 22:19
broonor
Xzyliac said it best.

If it was compatible, maybe I'd pick it up, but we all know Activision sees extra dollar signs with peripherals (completely missing the extra dollar signs of those who aren't buying their crap due to already owning peripherals they deem unworthy).

We all have an auto-playing guitar right? That's why they don't want us to use our own instrument of choice right? Since playing at home on our own means they lose money...right?
ultrapeanut's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 22:19
ultrapeanut
@JamnOnTheOne

I wouldn't really call GH3 a failure, though a large part of its retail success is certainly owed to the previous efforts of Harmonix. This was almost inevitable, but I really don't see how Neversoft is going to be able to improve over the masters' efforts.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 22:26
Syn
If they took it all the way and made it so the game taught you to use an actual guitar like that PC game thing thats coming out later whenever. That would be way cool.
AfroJoel's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 22:26
AfroJoel
spiffy read my mind.

"To tear me away from Rock Band:
- Release the game to Australia sooner than "Never"
- Don't gouge the utter shit out of us in pricing
- Fall back to more sensible note charts and ditch the stupid battle modes"
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 22:45
Clockwork
Well this is somewhat pathetic. Sure I know what they're doing but at this point they're blatently copying the mutliplayer experience. I suggest they continue to focus on Guitar cause to be honest, as much as I love Rock Band, if I had to choose between guitars (gameplay and type of guitar) it'd be GH3. By far.
Luigi takes over's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 22:49
Luigi takes over
The ONLY thing that would tear me away from rock band, and I mean the ABSOLUTE ONLY thing that would is a song creation software kit.

For example, upload an MP3 and create the charts yourself for each instrument. Share said track with your friends and even the world. Rate other peoples custom tracks so we weed out the garbage. That way, I can have some awesome indie/local band songs. Weeaboos can circulate J-rock, people into hardcore metal can do their thing. Trolls can create an elaborate Rick roll. It'd be a revolution.

If they included this with "Rock Band Hero" I'd be sold. But they wont, so I'll stick with Rock Band.
kielejocain's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 23:10
kielejocain
I agree with Luigi -- if they found a way to do create-a-track, I'd give their game a try. There are two problems though.

1) If they did create-a-track and made me buy a whole new set of peripherals, I still say screw em. No way am I plunking down another $200. If you want my money for the game, let me use the "instruments" in which I'm already invested.

2) Create-a-track would be difficult because it would be difficult to separate out the individual instruments. That's why having the master tracks is so important -- if the guitarist fails, you can drop out the guitar track until he hits a note again, and keep the rest of the song going. Without this, the game loses some of it's charm and the fantastic feeling you get when you really nail a section for the first time. Gotta love that rush of adrenaline as the end of the solo wails to the end while you hold the last note. I admit I've yelled, "YEAH!" more than a couple times when I really do well in a tough section.
kielejocain's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 23:12
kielejocain
@myself:

"...end of a solo wails to the end?" Don't talk too good, do ya?
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 23:20
Aaron Mxy Yost
Meh, they should stick with the guitars. Rock Band is awesome, but GH's still got them beat when it comes to the guitar. Focus on making that better instead of copying the competitors.
GOLD5's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 23:23
GOLD5
Space Channel Hero? Seriously, in order for me to buy any installment of Guitar Hero, (since my Rock Band guitar doesn't work with them and I refuse to buy a non-wireless bundled xplorer,) they would have to just do what they always do. i.e., add a giant tube in the bottom of the guitar so I can actually slide my entire egg roll and dumplings in there to activate Groupie Power. This way none of the old songs will work with it, either, yay!
dr3nd4r's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 23:26
dr3nd4r
where's captain obvious???????
balth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 23:39
balth
Activision are douches.

that is all.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2008 00:04
Samit Sarkar
Tazar and dvddesign said exactly what I was going to say. I played through Guitar Hero and Guitar Hero II on Expert (except for “Free Bird”), but I got stuck on tier 6 of Guitar Hero III, and when I realized that I wasn’t having any fun failing “The Metal” over and over again, I moved on to Rock Band...and I haven’t looked back. I can live with the fact that I’ll probably never beat “Flirtin’ With Disaster”, “Highway Star”, or “Green Grass and High Tides”.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2008 00:34
Knivy
Didn't they kinda called Rock Band an imitation a few months ago? Oh well, I'm already way into Rock Band to get excited for this, although lets be honest, if they pick up good bands or secure ones of the so far unsecurable it will probably still sell. That and they do have the "Guitar Hero" name.
Stahlbrand's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2008 01:30
Stahlbrand
I think the misfiring execution of Guitar Hero 3 proves that Activision/Neversoft can buy the IP, but can't capture the spirit.

I bought GH3, played the hard mode all the way through, and do you know what my favorite part of it was? The Les Paul, because when RB finally released in Canada, we were having four-player fun with the neighbors right away. Playing TTFATF was fun in a 'hey I did it' way, but after I got RB, I have only put the disc in once because I heard Black Magic Woman on the radio and had to play it.

I Agree entirely with David Quinn Carder's statement a few posts above. Not only did Activision/Neversoft screw up the balance and 'feel' of GH3, they also turned the art direction into a horrible rolling abortion factory. The visual design was ass-tastic, same with all the non-music sounds in the game (error noises, combo noises, etc).

RB has a great visual presentation, and does so with considerable user-customization in mind, nice touches like the dynamically generated loading screens and putting the band's name up in lights really 'sell it'.

In summary, I think GH3 was a fitting humiliation for Activision/Neversoft, I'm glad they got pantsed so hard by Harmonix/MTV/EA, and I think their plan to follow up their ripping off of GH2 by ripping off RB is par for the course, and will end in another ugly, unfun game with a disturbing number of cops in it.
spudmastaflash's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2008 04:56
spudmastaflash
screw Activision
brad drac's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2008 06:26
brad drac
Also what spiffy said. Even if they do that though, GH3 pretty much sucks and I don't expect them to do much better in future. Harmonix are why GH was good. Without them, I just don't see the games getting any better. Fuck activision for whoring the franchise, fuck EA for raping the consumers. Fuck everyone else for something or other.
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2008 06:33
Vanilla Gorilla
Do want. Tired of only feeling challenged by like 5 out of 100 songs. Also, Rock Band has a lot more gay in it's setlist. And their controllers suck fucking ass.
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