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The Guitar Hero franchise is one of the most saturated and whored-out franchises there is, with a new main sequel every year and plenty of spin-offs in between. Fortunately, Activision made the deal a little sweeter by kindly offering to let players import songs from Guitar Hero: World Tour to the freshly released Guitar Hero 5. The bad news?

Dtoid reader "Joker's Boner" discovered that the much-lauded import feature doesn't even come close to supporting World Tour's full tracklist. In fact, you can only import 35 of World Tour's 85 songs to the new game. After all the bluster about not having to swap discs and being able to play your old favorites in a brand new game, this ridiculous compromise has fallen way short of expectations. The info's now made its way to Wikipedia, but for some reason nobody else has noticed what utter horsecrap this all is.

Even worse, you are being expected to pay for this farce. Activision will take $3.50 (250 MS Points) for you to download a 1.27GB "GHWT Disc Import" file. Meanwhile, Rock Band 2 let you download all but a few tracks from the Rock Band 1 playlist for five bucks. I think we can all see what the better deal here is. 

Even when Activision tries to offer something to its audience, it can't help throwing in a little bit of evil. What absolute fail. Hit the jump to find out what songs have been deemed worthy of import.

[Update: Word from Activision is that the import list isn't definitive. While these 35 tracks are the ones available right now, the list will be updated as licenses for songs are cleared and the tracks are updated to take advantage of Guitar Hero 5's new features.]

"About a Girl (Unplugged)" - Nirvana
"Are You Gonna Go My Way" - Lenny Kravitz
"Band on the Run" - "Wings
"Dammit" - Blink 182
"Demolition Man (Live)" - Sting
"Do it Again" - Steely Dan
"Everlong" - Foo Fighters
"Heartbreaker" - Pat Benatar"
"Hollywood Nights" - Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
"The Joker" - The Steve Miller Band
"The Kill" - 30 Seconds from Mars
"L'Via L'Viaquez" - The Mars Volta
"Lazy Eye" - Silversun Pickups
"Livin' on a Prayer" - Bon Jovi
"Love Spreads" - The Stone Roses
"The Middle" - Jimmy Eat World
"Never Too Late" - The Answer
"No Sleep Till Brooklyn" - Beastie Boys
"Obstacle 1" - Interpol
"One Armed Scissor" - At the Drive In
"One Way or Another" - Blondie
"Our Truth" - Lacuna Coil
"Overkill" - Motorhead
"Re-Education Through Labor" - Rise Against
"Santeria" - Sublime
"Shiver" - Coldplay
"Soul Doubt" - NOFX
"Spiderwebs" - No Doubt
"Still Born" - Black Label Society
"Stranglehold" - Ted Nugent
"Sweet Home Alabama (Live)" - Lynyrd Skynyrd
"Today" - Smashing Pumpkins
"Toy Boy" - Suck Up in the Sound
"Up Around The Bend" - Creedence Clearwater Revival
"You're Gonna Say Yeah!" - Hushpuppies







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playahatea45's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:45
playahatea45
EPIC FAIL!
Ceallach's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:48
Ceallach
But you do et Van Halen free so there's that.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:48
Xzyliac
Jim I joined this site because of you but seriously dude please be a little factual.

For $5 you could NOT let you import the entire setlist. As far as I can remember it excluded the Aerosmith song, Paranoid, and Enter Sandman.

Okay yes you get less songs with this import feature but it IS cheaper and Activision put out this list months ago. This isn't news.

The fad of ripping on Guitar Hero is spiraling out of control. For all the series faults it deserves a little defense.
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:48
Kif
Actifail.
jrod885's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:50
jrod885
Im glad I dont work for those fuckers anymore.
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:50
Nick Chester
@Xzyliac:

The story was corrected before you even posted your comment. As for this being known months ago, it's surprising no had talked about it. The first we had heard about it was from our tipster, and following these games is our job. To most people this will be news, I'm sure.
funran's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:52
funran
Xzyliac, um, rock band is a better deal, even before this announcement. Guitar Hero fucking fails compared to the DLC quality and quantity alone of Rock Band. Activision can suck my balls, you shouldnt defend Guitar Hero just because you bought the wrong game.
Andrew Kauz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:52
Andrew Kauz
@Xzyliac: "Meanwhile, Rock Band 2 let you download all but a few tracks from the Rock Band 1 playlist for five bucks."

He didn't say that you could download the whole thing.
Uber Mashu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:52
Uber Mashu
I remember a time where people made promises and kept them. Them were the days. Then a serpent came along and ruined it for everyone. I read it in a book somewhere so it must be true.

250 MS Points for a slap in the face. Remember kids, they'd "charge even more if they could."
Mr Wrighty 987's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:54
Mr Wrighty 987
I've come to accept this from Activision, what next? charging what they want for gam........
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:54
Jim Sterling
"Okay yes you get less songs with this import feature but it IS cheaper and Activision put out this list months ago. This isn't news."

This is news to a lot of people. Just because you knew about it, doesn't mean nobody else should know about it. Like the story says, it was on Wikipedia, but *nobody* noticed it. No blog picked it up when they should've, because it's a big deal. So, consider this a public information service.
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:54
fetusmilk
why does it only let you import certain songs in the first place? thats just stupid. the music industry has officially ruined video games. again.
money money money. mooooney.
Gene Eric's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:56
Gene Eric
Yeah. Anyone who buys Guitar Hero is a fucking moron. Rock Band is better. Harmonix cares for its fans, not like Activision.I once slapped someone in Gamestop who tried to say WT is fun.
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:56
Anus Mcphanus
This is bullshit! Half of my favorite songs from World tour have been omitted.

You would have thought that Assassin would have made the cut since Matt Bellamy is a playable character in GH5.
Sanious's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:57
Sanious
@fetusmilk

so later they have an excuse to charge you for the rest of the songs.
Poopface Morty's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:59
Poopface Morty
This is Activision people. I wouldn't have expected anything less from these money-sucks.
rel123's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 12:59
rel123
Man I was that desperate for another music game that I almost bought GH5. Oh well. I just really don't care for the Beatles. The next Rock Band better be mind blowing.
Power Corp's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:05
Power Corp
Activision is actually next on the list for us, right after the french government and starbucks.
zombiekiller13's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:07
zombiekiller13
Xzyliac: Rock Band 1 had 45 songs on the disc. 3 songs are not part of the import; Enter Sandman, Paranoid, and Run to the Hills (which was released later for DLC).

42 songs available to users to import. 93% of the songs from the disc. Roughly 12 cents per song.

GH:World Tour has 85 songs. 50 songs are not part of the import. You can import 41% of the songs available on WT into GH5. 10 cents per song.

So...you're right on it being cheaper. 2 cents cheaper per song. But would you rather be an owner of RB1, with the option to play practically all of your favorites, or the owner of GH:WT, with the option to play less-than half of your favorites?

That's why people are ripping on it.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:10
Xzyliac
@Jim and the rest
When I read it it wasn't fixed. If it's fixed than great.

I've seen this list in different places. That said it was before I really started hanging around DToid heavily so if it's not here already my fault. You guys are usually on top of things so I just made assumptions.

@funran
I am a total Harmonix fanboy. Always will be. I'm one of the editors for a Rock Band blog and I have a pretty impressive collection of contributions to the Rock Band forum. Rock Band will always be may favorite and my baby. Probably my favorite game of all time honestly because I've managed to squeeze so much out of it.

I don't even play GH DLC because it's a waste of time and money.

That said I have no problem with Guitar Hero. World Tour sucked huge balls but otherwise I've always been able to find some enjoyment out of the series. And I couldn't care less if Activision published it. Maybe I'm not hardcore enough or cool enough but if I can have fun out of it then I'm happy. I can play Guitar Hero and have fun so yes I do buy GH. It's by no means my favorite and I don't even think this offer is a good deal. I think it's BS. I was just pointing out some errors I saw when I was reading it and consequently got a little peeved by the mounds of hate the series gets.
Discarded Couch Sandwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:11
Discarded Couch Sandwich
I would like to steal Anus Mcphanus' first line to convey my feelings on this subject.

There's no way I'm importing these songs if I ever buy Guitar Hero 5, given that I'll have to pop the disc back in to play my favourites anyway. I'm still staving off World Tour DLC, since individual songs are 60% more expensive than Rock Band's on the PS3.

Having just brought Rock Band 2 (which has around 200 songs on my disc right now) this is quite a poor move. In other news, Lego Rock Band will apparently have a set to import, so go with that instead.
nightv's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:13
nightv
Ummm I am sorry to say that if you look at what your getting with GH5 you might re think this.

Look at GH studio for one. The thing is like a pod. And you can how upload like 50 songs now. And guess what there free to Download.

I am sorry but I see this thing as crap.
Jim did you not say in a past podcast something to the effect of "You are paying for what is on the disk not DLC that will be promised at a later date."
This is the same idea, it is a new game. Even tho everyone likes to say Activision is a money sucker, they are there to make games and to make money. When you say stuff like this you discredit everyone that worked hard on the game.

And I hate seeing things like "Yeah. Anyone who buys Guitar Hero is a fucking moron. Rock Band is better. Harmonix cares for its fans, not like Activision.I once slapped someone in Gamestop who tried to say WT is fun."

I am sorry Gene but you do not have the right to be so stupid as to "slap" some one for liking a game. That is one of the dumbest post I have seen on Dtoid.
PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:15
PhazonYoshi
Seeing as to import you have to have already paid for them, this is fucking ridiculous.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:15
Xzyliac
Discarded Couch Sandwich just reminded me that Lego Rock Band has an import feature too and so did the AC/DC pack.

Wow...bummer.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:25
Holyetheline
what bullshit... this is why I don't buy GH games anymore... since Rockband came out I have never looked back.
GoatRoyale's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:36
GoatRoyale
That list is... pathetic. Admittedly, I've already invested so much money in Rock Band DLC that I really wasn't planning on doing anything more than renting GH5, but nothing I've seen or heard from Guitar Hero is even remotely making me interested in the game at this point.
Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:40
Everyday Legend
I said it already - Kotick will destroy this industry if left unchecked.
Bennyishere's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:41
Bennyishere
I already decided on getting GH5 before the import feature was even announced, so this changes nothing for me. I'm glad Stranglehold is there, at least. I actually think GH is better than RB. Please don't kill me, Internet!
Karma-Suture's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:45
Karma-Suture
"But you do et Van Halen free so there's that."

Yay. Yet another game disc. No thanks.

I don't even care about World Tour tracks because I fired Guitar Hero after III, but it's funny that Activision is still struggling so mightily to offer what Harmonix has offered for ages, and they're still failing so miserably.

It feels a little like how Sony trips over itself constantly to stay within a mile of the Xbox and Xbox Live. Like there's no competitive analysis going on whatsoever.
DeadPlasmaCell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:45
DeadPlasmaCell
Sucks that it's not all the tracks, but I'm sure they'll add more in time. Me being a fan of the genre, I'll take what I can get. All these tracks had to be re-tooled for GH5's gameplay, so at least their gameplay will be different. It's not like you're not getting something new out of it.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:47
ParaParaKing
Smash Hits has a much better import quota though
Coldbrand's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:53
Coldbrand
Anyone who's even slightly educated on the topic isn't buying the Activision stuff anymore anyhow.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:54
Chris Carter
I felt like a dick when I busted Samit's balls about it in his write up, but I KNEW it was going to be half assed.

Also, the Kurt Cobain video I saw earlier today made me die a little inside (where he's singing You Give Love A Bad Name). Kurt's rolling in his fucking grave.
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:55
Xhumation
Activision fails again. No surprise there
Discarded Couch Sandwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 13:59
Discarded Couch Sandwich
Xzyliac just reminded me that AC/DC has an import feature, and is already out. I should steal someones copy of that game and have all the tracks for me! Just so long as there's no DRM on the discs.

I almost feel bad with the ability to rent Lego Rock Band and have all the songs on disc. I wonder if they'll get around that...
falsoman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 14:05
falsoman
Ouch, no ozzy, tool or hendrix... it's not a expensive import option but damn! seven of the songs that i liked the most did not make the cut... this puts an end to my absolute need for GH 5... if and when i buy it down the line I will certainly pay the import fee, but now i'm just gonna wait until the game is dirt cheap.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 14:11
Darren Nakamura
This was news to me, yes. I did assume that the import feature would suck more than Rock Band's, but I didn't know how much more it would suck.
Calamansi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 14:22
Calamansi
I for one can get off my ass and change a disc. It's not that hard and requires less effort than playing any of the songs.
MetalRufflez's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 14:25
MetalRufflez
Excuse me, I'm going to buy Guitar Hero 3
milo128's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 14:40
milo128
Why do people hate on guitar hero so much? Rock band is doing the exact same thing. Guitar Hero 1=Rock band 1 Guitar Hero 2=Rock band 2 GH Aerosmith=RB ACDC GH rock the 80's=Lego RB GH on tour=RB Unplugged GH Metallica= Rb beatles Harmonix is doing the same thing, it doesn't matter which ones are better all that matters is that harmonix is also whoring out their franchise. I don't care though because I'll happily buy every single sequel and track pack released.
Hills's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 15:27
Hills
@ milo128

You are retarded.

Guitar Hero 1 and 2 were made by HARMONIX. Not the guys who make Tony Hawk.

Secondly GH Aerosmith isn't ACDC. ACDC wasn't a full priced game sold with a guitar, it was a game which gave you the option to play it by itself or to download the entire tracklist to Rock Band 1 or 2. The only reason it wasn't download in the first place is because ACDC hates Digital Distrubution.

Rock the 80s is NOT Lego RB. Lego RB is for kids, has kid oriented songs that can evidently be once again imported to Rock Band 1 or 2 if you want the songs.

GH on tour has done 3 games so far. RB has 1 for the PSP, and they do downloads which GH on Tour does not.

Metallica is a POS compared to Beatles, everything for the Beatles game was redone, like specific background while playing for the specific songs. Specific venues and not some quick remoddling of the guys on stage with a band that just wants money instead of just releasing a download pack.

IMO only bands that deserve their own game are the Beatles and Led Zeppelin. As their music spans generations of people. Hell I am a HUGE Rush fan and don't believe they deserve their own game, just more downloads.
SilverDragon1979's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 15:32
SilverDragon1979
I was never planning on buying this game anyways. Rock Band is the only way to go.
RockBandAide's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 15:43
RockBandAide
LOL. That is all.
Mr Crushin's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 16:14
Mr Crushin
So what's the count on importing tracks from GH: Smash Hits? Is it just as low as GHWT's?

And do you have to pay a separate DLC "export" fee for that game as well?
smackethdn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 16:19
smackethdn
Is our country so lazy that we will pay extra to avoid changing disks? As far as this Rock Band/Guitar Hero debate, fact is, both of these games are almost identical minus track lists. Who gives a shit. Yes Harmonix has supported the RB games with much more DLC but Activision releases entire collections for much cheaper. Roughly 50 songs for 50 bucks equals 1 dollar a song vs 2 bucks or so for one's you download. Pick your poison, both game companies are nickle and diming you just in different ways. To say Activision is evil and MTV/Harmonix are saints is like the age old war againt the "Evil" Microsoft vs the "Angelic" Apple. Get a fucking life. Btw, I'm not suprised to see the Rock Band love by the bloggers here, scroll down to the bottom right, there's a nifty MTV logo citing where their allegiance lies.

PS. I have both games (World Tour/RB 2) and like them both equally. But atleast when I adjust the lag on one instrument is doesn't screw up the other in World Tour. In order to play with multiple people in RB2 I have to compromise and manually adjust lag somewhere in between. That is bullshit.
TopSpot123's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 16:24
TopSpot123
Before this hate train pulls all of the way out of the station, I've read that Activision is working on all but a very small portion of the songs from World Tour, and they will be ready for download soon and that once you've purchased the export fee, each future update will not need to be purchased again. I sincerely hope that what I read is accurate.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 16:24
Xzyliac
@Discarded Couch Sandwich
Hell yeah dude. Love that shit. RB importing is the way to go. Only reason I buy the full games is because it has the Harmonix logo on it.

That said I wish I was getting compensation for buying RB:U. :(

@Milo128
You need a history lesson. Hate when people jump in around GH3 and then wanna start teaching history.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 16:30
Bob Muir
$2.50 for those amount of songs sounds about right, but it's disappointing to see that they couldn't license nearly every song right off the bat.

@ Xzyliac

This is news because no one has heard of it. Also, the three missing songs from Rock Band 1's export feature were Run to the Hills, Paranoid, and Enter Sandman. (The Aerosmith song cover was still included.) Of those three, Enter Sandman was probably not relicensed due to Metallica's insistence on their own game, and Run to the Hills was rereleased as a master version available as DLC, leaving Paranoid as the only song whose absence is unexplained.

@ Discarded Couch Sandwich

Rock Band's AC/DC pack has a code inside to download the tracks to Rock Band 1/2. There's no export function on the disc, so renting it isn't worth it - you have to buy a copy. Hope that saves you a little money.
seinman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 16:31
seinman
@ zombiekiller13: Your math is a little wrong there.

Rock Band 1 has 58 on-disc songs, not 45. Three cannot import, leaving 55 that can. That's 95% of the songs, or roughly 9 cents per song.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 16:42
Xzyliac
@Necros
THANK YOU! I knew I was mistaken and you're right Run to the Hills certainly is in the store.

Also I think Sandwich said he was gonna borrow the game from a friend. Can't you use the export like 3 times or something like that? I'm probably wrong. The whole import/export thing is one of those things that's so simple I just don't think about it and forget how it works.
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