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While my comment itself has nothing to really do, with the topic at hand (I.E. Player Vs. Player servers) It is relevent to "Guild Wars2." This may sound "guilded" (see what I did there?) however, I honestly hope that it is just rumor that "Guild Wars2" is also coming to "consoles" such as the PlayStation3, and Xbox360. While I support porting in general; I do not support porting when it is beyond the means of the generalized product at hand. It's not the systems fault. We just know that it is starting to become some really antiquated technology and builds for both systems (the Wii unfortunetly was never designed to attempt trying anyway.) Nonetheless I saw how horrible DC Unviverse ran on the PlayStation3 and just how generally bad it was.
Anyway. I could honestly afford to expend the time to delve further into this, but I just hope that they do not port, or waste time trying to port "Guild Wars2" over to the consoles. Even if it means more sales - all it will mean in the end if more griping, and complaining from all ends. I'm not some PC elitist. I'm a realist. It's just too much effort in trying to port a title like that, and expect it to run as it should (then again. I doubt I'll be heard even. I mean publishers, and developers have been porting, and avoiding responsibility for years now.)
Anyway. I could honestly afford to expend the time to delve further into this, but I just hope that they do not port, or waste time trying to port "Guild Wars2" over to the consoles. Even if it means more sales - all it will mean in the end if more griping, and complaining from all ends. I'm not some PC elitist. I'm a realist. It's just too much effort in trying to port a title like that, and expect it to run as it should (then again. I doubt I'll be heard even. I mean publishers, and developers have been porting, and avoiding responsibility for years now.)
Man I am so hoping to relive my old DAoC days. I miss the giant lag inducing battles of 2002/2003 on Tristan. Guild Wars 2 is officially on my radar :)
@Rorek - They did go on to state that the proposed console version of Guild Wars 2 would be developed as a separate product, so that'd mean it would have its own servers and gameplay changes to suit gamepads and the systems they'll be running on.
I played a free-to-play MMO called Aika that did server vs. server style combat, and it was absolutely awesome. Hundreds of players on each side, all duking it out at once is an amazing experience. Guild Wars 2 just sold another copy if I get to do that with the polish of a AAA title.
For some reason when I picture server vs server I imagine 100's of people without armor/weapon spamming the dance animation, while the rest of the people act serious . I myself am one to take it seriously, I hope they don't allow player animations while in battle. We do not need cheerleaders in a war... Or do we...?
I've heard this all before, in WAR they promised it and SWTOR has it as well (somewhat broken). And the thing is, these kind of "World vs World" grand ideas are not possible if you don't have enough players. So it could work but if players don't show up.....well.
@AncientPsychicTandemWarElephant The original Guild Wars was, for a long time, the #2 MMO (behind WoW, obviously) and most of the player base was heavy on PvP play. One of the most common requests was for larger-scale PvP. Guild Wars 2 is set to be even bigger and PvP is, again, pretty much the largest focus of most returning players. You don't need to worry about there being enough people interested.
I'm all for this. GW1 did some great things with PvP. If there is any RPG I trust to do large-scale PvP well, it's Guild Wars 2.
I'm all for this. GW1 did some great things with PvP. If there is any RPG I trust to do large-scale PvP well, it's Guild Wars 2.
@Squirrel Pope Likewise - if I can relive some of the RvR of old school Bedevere/Tristan/Merlin I'm in. *sighs* Those were the days.
@AncientPsychicTandemWarElephant Dark Age of Camelot did it for a long time before WoW. Forget WoW - they never did PvP right.
@AncientPsychicTandemWarElephant Dark Age of Camelot did it for a long time before WoW. Forget WoW - they never did PvP right.
@Squirrel Pope Tristan you say? :)
Hasn't someone from the team say this will be an evolution of DAoC? If it's true..it makes me moist.
Hasn't someone from the team say this will be an evolution of DAoC? If it's true..it makes me moist.
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SWTOR never promised anything like that, and WAR "RvR" was just normal Faction vs Faction PvP but zones were tied together(I guess the idea was that the whole realm participated) - which is somewhat similar to GW2 concept. The problem with WAR is they tried to appeal to a crowd of WoW players who were never going to be sticking around anyway, lol.
And what AceFlibble said, its the GW players who will make the community. Therell be a bunch of WoWers come over and then leave after the first month sure, but nobody in the GW community will give a shit.
SWTOR never promised anything like that, and WAR "RvR" was just normal Faction vs Faction PvP but zones were tied together(I guess the idea was that the whole realm participated) - which is somewhat similar to GW2 concept. The problem with WAR is they tried to appeal to a crowd of WoW players who were never going to be sticking around anyway, lol.
And what AceFlibble said, its the GW players who will make the community. Therell be a bunch of WoWers come over and then leave after the first month sure, but nobody in the GW community will give a shit.
As I read this memories of Daoc bounced in my head. Then I got a boner. Let his game's pvp be half as good as classic Daoc (no TOA)
I see a big problem with this, players will always roll on the server with the highest ranking so it will be pretty unbalanced but i'm sure Anet has figured out a way to prevent this
@APTWE - These other games that try "realm v realm" open field combat failed, imo, because they only put in two sides. Once one side gains the upper hand, the failing side demoralizes, resulting in long-term losses as people move to someplace they feel they have better opportunity for victory (or just leave the game due to perceived imbalance). DAoC did it right (where my Merlinites at?) with three sides. Regardless of population of the individual side, they are almost always outnumbered by the combination of the other two. On smaller scale, as a realm focuses on a single front, they expose their flank to attack by opportunists.
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