I've gotten use to the controls, meaning I've gotten use to the fact that no matter how much "tweaking" I do to the sensitivity, the controls are still pretty horrible.

I don't know how people can get used to them

The controls are fine and work well with the game. If they'd change them to be quicker (like CoD4) it would end in a total mess. At least for the multiplayer part. The multiplayer already is getting a lot faster and hectic because people are unlocking things, like more grenades, ammo, Rocket Launchers and Shotguns.

Good for them: It's not a twitch shooter.

I've found the controls deliberate and accurate. I only get in a fluster when I'm in a hurry, which is why they were done that way in the first place. You crap your pants when a HiG is right in front of you and you're still in Ironsights mode!

The controls work so well it's reminded me of the shock I had moving from Keyboard, to Mouse and Keyboard. I've applied they layout to most of my other FPSs and they work well for the most part, though playing any Source Engine game is like sliding on ice by comparrison!

If there's one thing that needs to change, is the ability to match-make against players with similar configs i.e. I like playing with the reticule off, it adds to the immersion and encourages IronSights, but I know I'm being matched against a lot of folk who keep it on, and have the advantage. It's not a big deal, I'm still up there in the better 50% in most games ;) But it would be nice to be on level playingfields.

My only complaint is R3 for zoom...I guess I could change it though, huh.

hmmmm, well i have played FPS on keyboard and mouse for years. I dont really use my PC anymore and only really use my PS3. I think the controls are f*king horrible. I see enemies and cant hit them. I find that it makes a really good game, just 'okay'.

Its not very friendly towards non-hardcore analogue FPS players. On multiplayer i dont stand a chance. Kinda upsetting as I was willing to put many, many hours into this game. but, it seems like it just wont let me :(

What Jim said. Most of what I've been reading re: control complaints involve "It doesn't control like [insert other game], therefore it sucks." That's neither fair nor logical. If Killzone 2 played at the same pace as the other games it's so frequently compared to, then yes, having slow, heavy controls is a problem. But it doesn't.

It's too easy to criticize a game for what it doesn't do rather than for what it does, and it's especially easy with such a high-profile title.

You're also not in the best position to be complaining that the controls and their relation to gameplay aren't "as advertised", either, since there are demos, movies, and rentals available. This isn't exactly an indie darling no one knew about.

is it possible to mouse and keyboard on the PS3?

I figure you could plug one in. but, would your controls still have shitty deadzones?

I want to be able to run ad gun dammit! And why are there so many Africans!? I thought this was set in space?

My only complaint was I was so used to Resistance 2 controls...but it works and I slightly tweaked the X sensitivity and it works fine.

I have done no tweaking of any kind. I am very happy with the default setting, I kick ass online.

I love it.

I have a feeling that the only people who will complain about the weighty feel are the same jackasses who you see jumping every three seconds. I've never been a fan of overly-twitchy FPS games, so you can imagine that I absolutely love this.

Sorry, but anyone looking to play this on a keyboard and mouse need to get the hell away from me with their lightning quick accuracy and stick to PC games.

For my sanity.

Alternate 2; enable hold for aim; enable one press crouch same as COD4. The only thing that is <i>different</i> is the heavinnes but multiplayer is already fast paced. It really just "feels right" after a while.

i like how it's super slow to turn and then super sensitive when you need to focus on hitting a guy far away...so sensitive that if you tap it a direction you move past them and shoot nothing. also the default shoot should be r2...just a preference. ha nice animations too, everyone moves like fuckin robots and have awkward hand movements like ricky bobby in talladega nights.

<insert "controls are a gold standard" RE5 joke here>

I don't understand why they just don't allow you to change all the controls. Its been that way on the PC since forever, but it seems to be the only system that's doing it. Probably part of the reasons I prefer PC.

Ugh, I hate the Killzone 2 controls. It takes so long to turn around that I just run around in a straight line. It's virtually impossible to hit a moving target, but I guess I'm just too used to PC FPS games. That said though, CoD4 had perfectly good controls.

Also, the game is too dark. I have brightness on full on my TV and the game and I still can barely see.

The controls are great, once you get used to them. They feel more REAL, that is the best way I can describe them. THey make for a more frantic game. No, you can't run, turn on a dime and headshot someone 3000000000 miles away in a single twitch. THat doesn't happen. But you do feel like someone in a war. And there's just something about long distance shooting with the machine guns that I like. You have to take your time with the shot and line that shit up. It's a gamble. It makes you consider other avenues. I could go on about how much I love it, but I'm sure most of you know how much this game kicks ass.

I looked at my statistics and I played 14 hours of online this weekend. The first 3 were brutal, but that's about how long it took me to tweak my shit and get acclimated. My guess is that the people who are bitching are a handful of people who play [insert popular console multiplayer fps here] and thought they could just hop on and be number one from jump street and were horrified when the learning curve got their ass handed to them and threw the controller down and ran to the internet to cry about it. That's why the complaints were so hateful. That's why they didn't just keep playing and get used to it like the rest of us did. I say get over yourself. It's a new game. Learn that shit like everyone else and quit crying about it.

It scares me when a few people try to change things for the majority because they are too lazy to spend a little time learning something new. That's how the industry gets stale.

KZ2 was the game which was going to determine whether I keep or sell my PS3. Now having been able to spend some time playing it, it's REALLY close to going up for sale. The only thing saving it is decent enough config setting for my keyboard and mouse set up. For me, the controller is just horrible.

What's going to sell a game better... controls which you may "get accustomed to" after awhile, or controls that let you enjoy the game from the get-go.

I'm not saying the controls ARE $hit... I'm just saying they are for me. And I'm reading a lot of comments where others feel the same way.

Does anyone know for sure if there's aim assist in this game? Default was to slow on the sensitivity so I jacked my sensitivity all the way up and that's a little better. It's really tough to hit a moving target and weirdly I can strafe left and right and have a better chance to line up my sights where I want it to go. I just straight up feel like Guerilla keeps getting hype for these Killzone games but they don't delivery overall close to anything Infinity Ward, Valve, or Bungie does. That goes far past controls the overall experience isn't even in the same league. Wait no I take that back I do like the box art for Killzone 2 over the other shooters, so that's something...

Played for an hour last night, no complaints here so far. I find that I am far more careful and deliberate in my aiming than in other games, which I find to be a good thing. If I wanted a CoD control experience, I would have bought CoD4. Frankly, I find the control scheme refreshing.

I love the controls, and they worked for me right from the beggining(no getting used to required). The soilder you control feels just like, well a soilder.For the first time in any game I feek like Im controlling a person and not a camera with 2 arms and a gun.

Jim, you do realize that if you give this game less than a 9 you will be assassinated by Sony fanboys

@ Sam Spectre

Seems to me it is the Xbox fanboys he needs to worry about. The ones who monitor his online gaming activities and then launch organized mass counterattacks. LOL.

XBOX FANBOYS ASSEMBLE!!!

OMG, could you image if the xbox fanboys and the sony fanboys joined forces to form a super mega fanboy zoid. Good thing they are always at each others throats.