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As much as I don't want to turn this into a Sony vs. MS thing, maybe they should talk to Bungie about it. Bungie has probably been dealing with cheaters longer and with more intensity than any other console developer. Their banhammer is swift and righteous.
Could all be solved with dedicated servers and a server host kindly plucking the hackers from the game.
It great to hear Guerrilla is doing everything they can as well.
@Amtalx
I don't think that's a Sony vs microsoft thing at all. Cheaters are on every console and every non-cheater hates to be in a game with them. Actually I know Guerrilla as one of the (many) developers to be very fond of other developers. Actually I think most if not all developers are. It's the players who make the issues.
@Amtalx
I don't think that's a Sony vs microsoft thing at all. Cheaters are on every console and every non-cheater hates to be in a game with them. Actually I know Guerrilla as one of the (many) developers to be very fond of other developers. Actually I think most if not all developers are. It's the players who make the issues.
@Takeshi:
I'm glad you agree. However, there are some posters that will see that I wrote about Guerilla and Bungie in the same post and cry bloody murder.
I'm glad you agree. However, there are some posters that will see that I wrote about Guerilla and Bungie in the same post and cry bloody murder.
good news.
I love the KZ3 multiplayer and last thing I want is it to get ruined by wankers who need to cheat to compensate for being shit at the game.
I love the KZ3 multiplayer and last thing I want is it to get ruined by wankers who need to cheat to compensate for being shit at the game.
@amtalx its a great idea but I would imagine since a lot of their tech was developed while under the M$ flag its probably proprietary. They might be able to provide "guidence" though.
@Kirb
I think it stems from the need to control. Whether you're cheating on a test to control your grades or pirating software to control the dynamics of money spent/goods gained, or hacking a game to control the flow of game play over other players. Id imagine most the hackers out there are just like the few I know. Low self esteemed shut-ins lackig the skills to control the things in life that are actually worth it. So they make themselves feel better by dicking other people over.
I think it stems from the need to control. Whether you're cheating on a test to control your grades or pirating software to control the dynamics of money spent/goods gained, or hacking a game to control the flow of game play over other players. Id imagine most the hackers out there are just like the few I know. Low self esteemed shut-ins lackig the skills to control the things in life that are actually worth it. So they make themselves feel better by dicking other people over.
@Tha_Meat
Using the Move, by default, gives you a lot of aim assistance. In the single player game it's downright necessary, but it's a pretty large advantage in multiplayer. The problem is that without it, it becomes very difficult to hit anything at all, especially if your hands aren't very steady.
Using the Move, by default, gives you a lot of aim assistance. In the single player game it's downright necessary, but it's a pretty large advantage in multiplayer. The problem is that without it, it becomes very difficult to hit anything at all, especially if your hands aren't very steady.
When the move was being released, I never heard anyone question balance in the games. I'm curious jim as a gaming jornalist did anyone ask the question to the move developers and killzone developers "will the move imbalance the game, and if so how will you deal with that?". Was that question ever brought up by you or anyone one else????
@tristrix
"The problem is that without it, it becomes very difficult to hit anything at all, especially if your hands aren't very steady."
When the move was announces and sexual chocolate was screaming about 1:1 control I suggested this very problem may appear and was promptly called an ignorant fanboy.
@article
I really hope guerilla can keep their word on this issue but I can't see it. Having been on forums for specific games with issues all I've seen are the community team shitting bricks and closing down the millionth thread about this glitch and that cheat.
Fingers crossed the game stay clean.
"The problem is that without it, it becomes very difficult to hit anything at all, especially if your hands aren't very steady."
When the move was announces and sexual chocolate was screaming about 1:1 control I suggested this very problem may appear and was promptly called an ignorant fanboy.
@article
I really hope guerilla can keep their word on this issue but I can't see it. Having been on forums for specific games with issues all I've seen are the community team shitting bricks and closing down the millionth thread about this glitch and that cheat.
Fingers crossed the game stay clean.
Guerrilla's gonna go ape shit on them thar hackers..har har har,guffaw....cheating drives me bananas!
@bakewell
You could ask if the PS3 had a power button and get accused of being a fanboy from some of the more religious SDF card-carriers on these hallowed pages. I wouldn't sweat the hypocrites at all.
I haven't played KZ3 yet, but I could imagine that the Move would be a little tough to compete with if you're rocking a standard controller. RE4 on the Wii was a vastly different experience because of the pointer aim, I would feel safe assuming this would be no different. I know for a fact that the PC version of any shooter carves a clear divide between gamepad and mouse aiming, this should feel similarly stacked, odds-wise.
You could ask if the PS3 had a power button and get accused of being a fanboy from some of the more religious SDF card-carriers on these hallowed pages. I wouldn't sweat the hypocrites at all.
I haven't played KZ3 yet, but I could imagine that the Move would be a little tough to compete with if you're rocking a standard controller. RE4 on the Wii was a vastly different experience because of the pointer aim, I would feel safe assuming this would be no different. I know for a fact that the PC version of any shooter carves a clear divide between gamepad and mouse aiming, this should feel similarly stacked, odds-wise.
@amtalx
agreed!
This is not a Sony vs Msoft thing, it's a developer thing. I'm glad that Geurrilla is going to actively assess their game and possible holes for hackers... sounds dirty.
anywho, Bunjie is at the forefront of actively taking a part in the continuing lives of their properties. Rockstar is another shining example.
In this day and age, it is no longer acceptable to simply put a game out. Now we have the ability to actively adjust and patch games, not rely strictly on what is on the disc or cartridge.
agreed!
This is not a Sony vs Msoft thing, it's a developer thing. I'm glad that Geurrilla is going to actively assess their game and possible holes for hackers... sounds dirty.
anywho, Bunjie is at the forefront of actively taking a part in the continuing lives of their properties. Rockstar is another shining example.
In this day and age, it is no longer acceptable to simply put a game out. Now we have the ability to actively adjust and patch games, not rely strictly on what is on the disc or cartridge.
Thats nice, now give me back my shotgun for the medic class, the lmg you replaced it with sucks, and some more range for the revive
Using the move with the sharpshooter took awhile to get used to but damn once you do it owns. Not even the dualshock can compare once you get used to the sharpshooter. You are going to have to tinker with the deadzone and sensitivty. As for online I think the dualshock is a better choice.
ban all cheaters of any kind, that's all we want... also, ban the motherfucking spawnkillers, this was a REAL PROBLEM in the beta, I hope they fix it...
"Sounds good to me. While they're at it, let's get a patch to keep PlayStation Move users on their own server. Using that thing is more or less cheating, really."
This, my god please this. It's almost as bad as playing against Mouse and keyboard players in UT3.
This, my god please this. It's almost as bad as playing against Mouse and keyboard players in UT3.
@Amtalx
I'm going to scream Bloody murder and things anyway! You misspelled Guerrilla!
RRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!
Don't worry, even one of the Dutch newspapers had it wrong.
I'm going to scream Bloody murder and things anyway! You misspelled Guerrilla!
RRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!
Don't worry, even one of the Dutch newspapers had it wrong.
I swear I was in a game that had a cheater and I reported him. The guy would NOT die and we straffed by the spawn at our door and I literallty saw him for 1 or 2 seconds top and he dropped THREE guys in a single pass.
His final score was 52 and 8.
So far hes the only person I've found to be super fishy but MY GOD last night I had three matches where it was impossible to get out of our spawn. Each time was with a different team but we got pushed back and destroyed. People would just camp and watch the 5 doors that we could leave from and I've never seen so many snipers.
His final score was 52 and 8.
So far hes the only person I've found to be super fishy but MY GOD last night I had three matches where it was impossible to get out of our spawn. Each time was with a different team but we got pushed back and destroyed. People would just camp and watch the 5 doors that we could leave from and I've never seen so many snipers.
@amtalx
Couldn't agree more. If I'm not mistaken, Naughty Dog even thanked Bungie in the credits of Uncharted 2.
Despite what people think, most developers help each other... I think we misinterpret this whole competition as being game vs game more than it actually is. Publishers are evil, not the devs.
Couldn't agree more. If I'm not mistaken, Naughty Dog even thanked Bungie in the credits of Uncharted 2.
Despite what people think, most developers help each other... I think we misinterpret this whole competition as being game vs game more than it actually is. Publishers are evil, not the devs.
I'm actually very curious to see how the Move controls work with Killzone 3. I've never been a fan of the Wii-esq stuff like that.
I wouldn't want to play online with the move, but I agree that they should segregate the two. Problem with that is the amount of move users on simultaneously may make it a bit tough to get a good game going.
Guerrilla is no joke when it comes to policing their MP. They would ban people just for boosting in KZ2.
Just brick every person found cheating, a permanent response is much stronger than a temporary ban, or even an account ban.
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