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We told you about the anime Princess Robot Bubblegum in GTA IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony, and Conrad was kind enough to record the entire thing so that we could take a moment to enjoy and discuss the piece. Clocking in at around 11 minutes, the show does what GTA has been known for in its more recent iterations: lampooning culture.

Except, in the case of Princess Robot Bubblegum, it's about fifteen years late. I really shouldn't mind, and it's not like this bothers me on the scale of Modern Warfare 2, but it's still ticked me off just a bit. Follow me after the jump so I can rant a bit.

I know, you're asking: "Who cares?" So, when people talk about videogames as "that stupid Mario stuff that's just for kids," you're totally with them, right? Well, I see you guys defending videogames here as an art form and serious business day in and day out, so why not give me a moment to do the same with anime.

My real problem is that a lot of the tropes they're lampooning are really old. It's akin to judging today's games by Super Mario Bros. Now that the anime industry is at a level where they post serious numbers -- FUNimation was one of the best performing divisions of Navarre, a Fortune 500 company that owned Circuit City -- poor translations, shitty dubs, and shows with next-to-no production budget are few and far between.

I shouldn't expect Grand Theft Auto to be the most highbrow of pieces, especially something entitled The Ballad of Gay Tony, but it's necessary to point out that this really isn't what anime is like anymore. Some of you poke your head in over at Japanator from time to time, and you have an idea just how awesome anime can be at times. We tell you about some good stuff.

To give you readers here at Destructoid a quick glance at some of what's gone on in the anime industry in the past several years, things have changed a bit. Those giant robot shows? They've gotten a hell of a lot more awesome and manly. There are stories that explore new artistic ways of telling stories and romances that will grip your heart and not let go.

Shows with little girls? Yeah, they're still around, but they can be used to explore some emotionally deep topics, such as giving people a second life at the cost of their humanity.

My point is this: there are a lot of good things in anime out there. It's not all tits and tentacles. It's all good and fine if you poke fun at anime once in a while in general pop culture, but when these negative stereotypes are all that gets played? Then it becomes problematic, because then it just reinforces the idea that anime is nothing but tentacles and bad storylines.

Rockstar, I'm not saying you're a bad company for this, but you're really not helping my cause here. It'd be great if you could show anime in a positive light once in a while. I'm just sayin'.

For the rest of you, head over to Japanator and get yourself schooled in the ways of anime and manga. We've got plenty to talk about, even if you're just there for the lulz.


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Derek Gillies's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:42
Derek Gillies
Wait what. You're expecting any program being shown on the TV in GTA IV to show it's subject matter in a positive light? You're..really not familiar with this whole GTA thing are you?
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:44
Xzyliac
Am I wrong or isn't this a parody? Perhaps it's a good time to laugh at what anime used to be, turn off the TV, and go "Damn. We've come a long way."
Dimnos's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:45
Dimnos
I think he just likes to cry about stuff.
kefkaesque's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:45
kefkaesque
I agree, people who hate anime tend to think of stereotypes that aren't really relevant anymore at all. Anyone who says that all anime sucks clearly has a very small understanding of how much there is out there and how much it's grown from the stereotypes they think of.

Writing off an entire form of media in general (or even a genre) is pretty ignorant in the first place, not just for anime but for anything.
craigbezzle's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:45
craigbezzle
Article fail.
Jesus H Christ's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:49
Jesus H Christ
Brad Rice isn't helping with taking Brad Rice seriously.
Dimnos's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:49
Dimnos
Yes yes yes... Being a bigot and forming a generalization about something is bad... We know we know. :rolleyes
DaddyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:50
DaddyG
I have to agree with my fellow commentors here. The GTA franchise isnt exactly known for its subtlety, and i find it funny that anyone would take any of the fake TV shows that seriously.

I dont recall anyone taking offence to the Halo/Gears of War/Homo-erotic/Republican spoof in the bog standard GTA IV.
phantomile's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:51
phantomile
Wow Brad, you really like to complain.
As awesome as your Dtunes day was, you've definitely lost a lot of my respect.
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:52
Magnalon
Um...........it was clearly a parody. Not ALL Rockstar associates hate anime and wish that the Dark Land of Japan should burn in Hell.

Simplified argument in two sentences: there's a ton of good anime, there's a ton of bad anime, and saying the entire genre sucks is pretty ignorant. For every horrible Anime trope, there's a Michael Bay movie, and for every Tentacle Rape anime show, there's an American Scat Porn Production company.
Reginald Atkins's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:54
Reginald Atkins
Honestly I must admit I'm amazed that you expected more substance out of GTA? I'm kinda ok with the world being a bit Anime-stupid, if the religious right-wing nutjobs ever saw the full scope of what anime offers they would attack in ways that would shame what they've tried to do to D&D and Video Games over the past few decades. I vote we let these stereotypes continue to keep them stupid and just smile knowingly.
Wonder Woody's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:54
Wonder Woody
It is a PARODY. You should also want to defend drug culture and politics from the big meanies at Rockstar. Take is to Japanator.
Gestault's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:54
Gestault
Sorry, even as someone who enjoys many anime movies and TV series, I'm NOT feeling you on this article. You apparently don't know how parody works, particularly parody within GTA.

And frankly? upwards of 90% of anime is not good, and is represented fairly well by the clip you included. Sorry, for every Mamoru Oshii, Shinichirō Watanabe and Miyazaki, you have forty Yuji Shiozakis or...jeez. Don't get me started. Anime does not deserve special treatment.
DaddyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:57
DaddyG
After watching it i have to admit i did find it funny. But seriously i bet the average viewer wont *get* the joke and think "WTF IS THIS JAP SHIT, I WANNA KILL SOME GANKGSTAZ AND SHIT" and never view it ever again.

The only people who would seriously sit down and watch it fully would be in on the joke and understand what parody means.
PenKaizen's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 15:58
PenKaizen
I see what you're saying but look at the character of Yoko in TTGL.
leary's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:00
leary
@Xzyliac: That maybe be so but only to people who are already familiar with anime.

I appreciate the article Brad. It isn't that big a deal, but seeing such outdated notions made me groan despite knowing better.
Strife381's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:00
Strife381
With anything creative your always gonna have amazing products( one piece) and shit ( amazing nurse Nakano). and to be honest this gta thing kinda looks like a lot of the shit in anime. good job gta
Soulwax's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:00
Soulwax
Let's talk about the subtle nuances of Naruto.
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:01
falinter
I still think its nuts that GTA goes through this much trouble to put things on the tv and radio and billboards.
Bluestreak2's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:02
Bluestreak2
I'm on the bench saying Rockstar is just treating anime like they did EVERYTHING else in that game. And that the reason they went with tropes from an old era, is probably thanks to the developers exposure to the stuff, as well as the target age group's.

As for Anime in general, I love that stuff, but it's still got plenty of problems and things that are entirely fair to make fun of.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go back to watching a show about the ultimate combat android, spending her last year of life as a maid for a male high school student.
JehutyFromHell's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:03
JehutyFromHell
No, honestly that hit 90% of anime on the head. And remember, its a parody.
FlatTopJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:04
FlatTopJesus
You could say the same things in regards to Republican Space Rangers and western programming. I understand where you're coming from, but I really don't think this is a big deal.

On that note, put it on Adult Swim on anime night so I have something to watch.
Murumasa123's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:06
Murumasa123
It was making fun of a serious part of culture in the same way it does politics and music genres and everything else. And what do you mean "I shouldn't expect Grand Theft Auto to be the most highbrow of pieces, especially something entitled The Ballad of Gay Tony" Why is that low brow in any way? Its not Saints Row 2 and just because it features violence and humor it doesn't make it low brow. Else The Wire could be described as "not the Most highbrow of pieces"
Take a joke man!
Zombutler's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:07
Zombutler
This video game article is the Citizen Kane of video game articles.
PenKaizen's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:07
PenKaizen
In regards to Saints Row, I found that game to have much darker themes than GTA has.
Zerstorer23's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:08
Zerstorer23
Big baby. I have no problem with most anime (have watched and loved a few series myself), and that video was awesome.

You fell into a trap, Brad, trying to defend anime after running into a video so absurd is just asking to be made fun of.

I mean, jeez. Have a sense of humor, otherwise you're just the one kid that everyone makes fun of who say "I don't find that funny" to every joke made at his expense.

Also, Jesus, we're talking about Rockstar here, a game developer. Nearly every person who made the game is a big nerd, and by the law of averages a good portion of them are probably legit anime nuts.
HOLY TACO's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:09
HOLY TACO
I like Anime, but prefer to read Manga. Anyway. This whole GTA thing. Really? Did you expect them to actually respect Anime?! Or take a stereotype and run with it? That entire game is like this big bunch of stereotypes rolled up into a ball and parodied. It's funny.
levkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:10
levkar
damn this guy gets butthurt over everything. we don't care about your stupid anime. this shit was funny as hell.

start writing articles that people can actually give a damn about before you contnue to get owned by sterling.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:11
Timmeh
I saw some dumbass moaning about this on another website and my thoughts haven't changed. Are you new to GTA? Rockstar lampoon pop culture, politics, current events and anything else that presents itself as a target with every GTA game. It's supposed to be a parody, it's supposed to exploit sterotypes and cliches.

Why is anime special?
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:11
BluDesign
No one tell Brad about Perfect Hair Forever.

Which as a fellow anime enthusiast I found to be hilarious.
gamadaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:11
gamadaya
Somebody overreacted...
GSO Burzum's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:12
GSO Burzum
I felt it was a very fair representation of Anime and its viewer base and was quite hilarious to boot.
Insanity-Oo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:14
Insanity-Oo
ITT: D-toid rips a big hole in someone over a small rant. But feel free to continue to work off that aggression guys.
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:16
007
All I have to say is...

Baw.
ninjalegend's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:16
ninjalegend
I thought it was hilarious. I remember watching Ninja Scroll when I was younger. Loved it. In order to find other, more recent win in anime, like Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop, I had to wade through a ton of trash. You can say that about an awful lot of media. And Rockstar is there to lampoon it. I do so love Rockstar.
andycadaver's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:17
andycadaver
You're so lame, dude. You're 2 for 2 now for your argument fails as of lately. Please stop. Just laugh at the parody and move on.
PenKaizen's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:18
PenKaizen
Stop being cunts to Brad.
prolifikstudio's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:19
prolifikstudio
aww poor kid
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:19
Steel Brotha
@ andycadaver

3 for 3 of you count the Prinny review.
Lazaro Cruz's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:20
Lazaro Cruz
Nice write up Brad, I can understand some of your resentment as an anime fan but I have to disagree with some of your points.

Your assertion that GTAIV is not "the most highbrow piece" seems to betray your unfamiliarity with the not-so-subtle satire sprinkled (sometimes excessively) throughout the game.

GTA may over do it sometimes and it can be heavy handed and even corny with its pop satire, but I find that the writers are also very smart and thoughtful; not to mention, sometimes genuinely funny (a rarity in most modern videogames) when it comes to this sort of stuff.

I remember frequently hearing the radio version of a trailer for Princess Robot Bubblegum when I played the original GTAIV. I also remember a similar commercial poking fun at RTS video games, I thought that one was clever also, but I didn't jump to the conclusion that GTAIV was doing any type of disservice to RTS videogames.

If you really think about it this whole anime thing is really just an inside joke made especially for anime fans like you.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:20
GoldenGamerXero
ACTUALLY READ THE FREAKING ARTICLE

He wasn't saying that it offended him he was saying that for a parody it wasn't all that up to date. Imagine if I tried to parody videogames when my only knowledge of it is from old school platformers.
JLondon78's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:23
JLondon78
I laughed my ass off at Princess Robot Bubblegum. It's one of the highlights of the game and mirrors what a lot of us uneducated fans think of anime.
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:26
Magnalon
@Golden

Zuh?

That's the point of a parody: you make it as ridiculous as possible. What's the ultimate goal of a parody? To be funny. Did it succeed? Hell yes, it did!

Also, all the "merchandising" jokes in the Rockstar parody can be applied TODAY to Naruto.
Gestault's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:26
Gestault
Wow, even though I disagree with the post, there's a LOT of vitriol being flung Brad's way. Don't think I like the way this is playing out.
Wonder Woody's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:26
Wonder Woody
Read the article again, still not front page news worthy.
Murumasa123's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:28
Murumasa123
Saints Row 2 dealt with the same issue as GTA but it said "HEY LOOK YOU CAN KICK SOMEONE IN THE BALLS" which made it lowbrow.
And GoldenGamerXero we did read the article and it was a bitch about something that GTA does all the time. It uses out of date stereotypes. The joke is If you think THIS is all anime is your an idiot in as much as the out of date conventions and stereotypes are. Just cos we disagree don't mean we didn't read it.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:29
Steel Brotha
@ GoldenGamerZero

Read the article.
Still judging a parody is kind of silly. There are still animes with shitty dubs and mistranslations. And expecting anyone at Rockstar to use anything but Family Guy style humour to parody something is only setting yourself up for disappointment.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/04/2009 16:30
GoldenGamerXero
@Magnalon

I was refering to the comments that seemed to be less focused on this article and just wanted to tell Brad he was wrong still because of the other one. I actually disagree with most of what he's saying but that doesn't mean that people can be dicks.
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