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Raiden said it first.
If we judged games by units shipped, plenty of games would be successful when in reality they didn't sell worth a damn. Halo 3's Legendary Edition would have been a valued collectors item, Backbreaker would have given Madden a run for it's money, and so on and so on for plenty of games.
Sony may have shipped a ton of copies, but I see mountains of those copies collecting dust on store shelves, including the one I work at.
If we judged games by units shipped, plenty of games would be successful when in reality they didn't sell worth a damn. Halo 3's Legendary Edition would have been a valued collectors item, Backbreaker would have given Madden a run for it's money, and so on and so on for plenty of games.
Sony may have shipped a ton of copies, but I see mountains of those copies collecting dust on store shelves, including the one I work at.
Yeah, the NPD numbers I'm seeing for GT5 is about 400k. It's 8th out of the top 10 selling games (skus combined) and to put that in perspective, the 2nd place Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood is at 1.4 million. GT5 WAS only out for about a week but that also included Black Friday so I doubt they actually sold anywhere close to 5 million.
It's sad Sony always uses shipped numbers instead of sold. For example, NPD just released saying it only sold 400k in NA, while their official report specifies "shipping" 1.25m to that region.
Judging from the game's 84 metacritic, Sony should've shipped less.
Judging from the game's 84 metacritic, Sony should've shipped less.
re: shipped number vs sold number - and i think this is one sony could probably advertise the actual sold number on but because of the crap with move they have to keep their pr language consistent.
Raiden said it first.
If we judged games by units shipped, plenty of games would be successful when in reality they didn't sell worth a damn. Halo 3's Legendary Edition would have been a valued collectors item, Backbreaker would have given Madden a run for it's money, and so on and so on for plenty of games.
Sony may have shipped a ton of copies, but I see mountains of those copies collecting dust on store shelves, including the one I work at.
If we judged games by units shipped, plenty of games would be successful when in reality they didn't sell worth a damn. Halo 3's Legendary Edition would have been a valued collectors item, Backbreaker would have given Madden a run for it's money, and so on and so on for plenty of games.
Sony may have shipped a ton of copies, but I see mountains of those copies collecting dust on store shelves, including the one I work at.
Care about these figures, do you? Well say your item "sells" only 10 units in a given period and the competition "sells" 100. Oh no! They just sold 10x what you did during this period! You're such a loser! However, if you clear $6 pure profit on each one of yours and they only clear $.50 on each one of theirs (maybe because they blew their margins with a FUCK ALL HUGE marketing campaign), look whose company just made out better despite number of units "sold." What matters to corporations is the bottom line: Net Profit--how much money they earned at the end of the day, not these stupid ass "sales" figures that fanboys and "analysts" argue about. This goes for hardware figures as well. People need to give it a rest with this shit and just play their fucking games.
Just for "shipped" figures purposes. Gran Turismo has never really sold well in NA. Here's a chart of all GT games sales figures.
GT3 was launched the same year as the PS2. It's been 4 years since the PS3 launched. Think about that shit, Polyphony.
Gran T did 400K in north america in 2-3 weeks(it hasn't even been a month) as expected its kicking ass in europe and japan.
Damn trev was right about the trolling around here lately.
Damn trev was right about the trolling around here lately.
@Stigmeyer
To be fair, it's the corporations that put out press releases boasting about their figures.
To be fair, it's the corporations that put out press releases boasting about their figures.
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec was the masterpiece in the group, and literally a game-changer for console racing titles. I still remember being blown away the first time I played it.
As far as 'shipped' goes, it's a metric that Sony and many, many other large corporations use. Get used to it. If you ever have anything to do with the business world then you will see it often. I really don't think they're going to change the way they measure product movement because a few fanboys get frothy and indignant. I dunno, though, I could be wrong, so keep up the good fight.
As far as 'shipped' goes, it's a metric that Sony and many, many other large corporations use. Get used to it. If you ever have anything to do with the business world then you will see it often. I really don't think they're going to change the way they measure product movement because a few fanboys get frothy and indignant. I dunno, though, I could be wrong, so keep up the good fight.
Everyone says ps3 fanboys are the worst but lately this site has been turning into an xbox boys wonderland. Hehe^^
Don't split hairs over units sold and units shipped. The game was just released; retailers are expecting to sell these units, and there is a damn good chance they will all sell within 6 months.
@Evergreen
True. The shipped vs sold thing is getting kind of silly.
As far as publishers are concerned once it's shipped to the retailers it is "sold" on their end.
I'm not in the sales dept. so I may be talking out of my ass, but I think there's very few (if any) sales agreements where the retailer can return unsold units to the distributor and get their money back. So effectively, units shipped is units sold. Those units might rot on store shelves for years, not purchased by consumers, but the publisher made their money, right?
As I understand it most retailers are very careful to not over purchase stock for this very reason... once they buy it, they're stuck with it. They can always reorder, but if they place an initial order that's too large they're fucked. So it's probably fair to say that based on their sales forecasts, retailers are expecting to move those 5.5million units in a reasonable time frame.
True. The shipped vs sold thing is getting kind of silly.
As far as publishers are concerned once it's shipped to the retailers it is "sold" on their end.
I'm not in the sales dept. so I may be talking out of my ass, but I think there's very few (if any) sales agreements where the retailer can return unsold units to the distributor and get their money back. So effectively, units shipped is units sold. Those units might rot on store shelves for years, not purchased by consumers, but the publisher made their money, right?
As I understand it most retailers are very careful to not over purchase stock for this very reason... once they buy it, they're stuck with it. They can always reorder, but if they place an initial order that's too large they're fucked. So it's probably fair to say that based on their sales forecasts, retailers are expecting to move those 5.5million units in a reasonable time frame.
@Nyktharas
So Europe is the source of Sofik88's rage? Good thing i live on the right continent then!
So Europe is the source of Sofik88's rage? Good thing i live on the right continent then!
"Gran Turismo 5 flying off the shelves definitely helped this number. Since its launch last month, GT5 has shipped 5.5 million units worldwide."
Don't you mean flying onto the shelves?
I'm amazed you were allowed to review GT5.
Don't you mean flying onto the shelves?
I'm amazed you were allowed to review GT5.
@jawshoeuh
Surely the majority of gamers would be more interested in how many people are playing the game rather than how much money the publisher made.
Units shipped is only good for stockholders and fanboys.
Surely the majority of gamers would be more interested in how many people are playing the game rather than how much money the publisher made.
Units shipped is only good for stockholders and fanboys.
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