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[Editor's note: pedrovay2003 takes a look at the old school games that all three major consoles offer as part of the ongoing Monthly Musings theme. -- CTZ

It's no secret that downloadable games are popular right now. Each one of the three major consoles has a downloadable game service (well, the Wii will once WiiWare gets launched), but in addition to that, all three consoles also have downloadable games from the past. It's a given that consoles can't be completely backwards compatible, so downloadable versions of those older games can be quite convenient if it means you don't have to keep all of your old consoles. However, if it's not done right, downloadable games can just be a waste of time and money.

Let's take a look at the options, shall we?

GOOD IDEA: THE VIRTUAL CONSOLE (WII)

The Wii's Virtual Console is, in my opinion, the best service for backwards compatibility through downloads. See, all the games on the Virtual Console are fairly old and you'd be hard-pressed to find the original copies of those games anywhere. Some of them have become pretty rare too, like Super Mario Bros. 3. And some haven't even been released in every region, like Sin and Punishment. Some of these games are going for quite a bit on eBay too. I've seen boxed copies of Super Mario Bros. 3 go for over $50 which makes the $5 price tag not bad at all.

A lot of people complain that the Virtual Console is inferior to other services because there are no enhancements to any of the games like no online play, no updated graphics, and so on. But that's not what the VC is for! The VC was created to allow people new to videogames to experience all the stuff that people like me grew up with, and for people like me to relive our childhoods. The Xbox Originals and PS1 Downloads services are the same way -- Nothing is really added to enhance the experience. They're all exactly the same as they were when they were released in their original forms, which is a good thing. Nintendo has gotten backwards compatibility down to a science this generation, and the Virtual Console is no exception.

However, just because I feel the Virtual Console is the best out of the three services, it doesn't mean it's without its flaws. The Wii, as we all know, has a very small amount of internal memory (only 512MB). Sure, you can expand this memory with SD cards, but you can't actually play the games directly off of those cards. This means that if you really like the VC, you'll be filling your Wii's memory up quickly. My console, with all the downloaded games combined with the saves from all the games I've played, has barely any room left at all. It's true that if you link your Wii Shop Channel with your My Nintendo account you can redownload any games and channels you've purchased in the past, but constantly deleting and redownloading just because of a lack of space is very tedious, inconveniencing those who play lots of games and who have accumulated tons of save data. It's a good thing Virtual Console games are fairly small, and game saves for those VC games and retail games are even smaller at least.

BAD IDEA: XBOX ORIGINALS (XBOX 360)



As I typed the words "Xbox Originals" into this blog, I almost threw up on my keyboard. The Xbox Live Arcade is amazing, but Xbox Originals is probably the worst thing I've seen come out of this generation of gaming so far. Look at the X360, it's completely backwards compatible with almost every original Xbox title. Why would you download a game for $15 when you could just go to a local retailer that sells used games and grab the same game for less money? They don't even have to be used; my local Best Buy sells sealed copies of the original Halo (one of the Xbox Originals titles) for $10. No only that, but downloading these games instead of just buying original copies takes up huge amounts of hard drive space. You know what that means? When you're out of space, you'll have to drop money on a new hard drive, which is going to run you at least an extra $100. Pretty good way of making money, if you ask me.

Now, just to be fair, I should point out that not all the games you can download are a waste. Psychonauts is pretty rare now, so it'd be hard to find an actual hard copy, and if you did, it'd probably be pretty expensive. So this service would be excellent if only the really hard-to-find games were available, but as it is now, it's pointless. There's absolutely no reason to download any of those original games (except for Psychonauts) when you can still find them in their original forms and play them almost perfectly. As long as the Xbox 360 can play original Xbox games, there's no reason to download games that are still so current.

SOMEWHERE IN-BETWEEN: PS1 GAMES (PS3/PSP)


There are good and bad things about downloading PS1 games through the PlayStation Network, so let's start with the bad. As with the Xbox Originals service, this service offers games that can still be played natively on the PS3 in their original, hard copy forms. Now, I realize that there are PS3s coming out now that don't have backwards compatibility, but most owners have 60GB, 80GB or 20GB models. Whoever is looking into buying a PS3 is looking for something that will play older games. And for those who have 40GB models, the PS2 is still selling enough to merit either picking one up or keeping the one you already had to begin with. Meaning you can just play your hard copies of all the downloadable games. Granted, some are rare, like Castlevania: SOTN, but most can still be found fairly easily. This creates the same problem as the Xbox Originals service. And remember that downloaded games will be taking up a lot of hard drive space too, even though this may not be an issue since you can replace the hard drive with a newer, much larger one for a fairly low price.

However, it's not all bad with the PS1 downloads. These games are much cheaper than the Xbox Originals games, averaging at about $6 or $7 a piece. Not only that, but as I said before, backwards compatibility is getting more and more rare in PS3 consoles and the cheap prices of the downloadable versions of the games can be very attractive. Also, there are a ton of rare PS1 games, many more rare games than on the original Xbox. That means we could eventually see stuff like Intelligent Qube show up for like $6, which is great since it goes for over a hundred bucks on eBay.

Also, even though the games haven't been enhanced in any way, it's awesome that you can transfer them to your PSP. Imagine being able to play any of the PS1 Final Fantasy games on your PSP wherever you are and whenever you want to. And with the high-quality screen on the PSP, you'll feel like you're playing the games on your TV. If you have a big enough memory stick, you can also put more than one game on the handheld at a time, and then just stick them back on the PS3 when you get home. I think the positives outweigh the negatives with the PS1 downloads.

So there you have it. If done right, implementing backwards compatibility through downloads can be a very nice thing. All three consoles have their positives and negatives, and it all just comes down to preference. What do you think about these services? Do you like/hate any in particular?

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Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 20:19
Eschatos
I like Steam. It's starting to offer a good selection of older games.
liquidninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 20:23
liquidninja
That's cool I didn't know you could play PS1 games on the PSP.

Also, I'm not worried about backwards compatibility, with the Playstation at least, because I still have a PS2 and it's slimline, oh yeah, And really I should also get a PSOne (slimline) again because I just like the way it looks.
Redzie's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 21:10
Redzie
PS2 Software-based BC is still a possibility for the 40 GIGs. Just imagine how much they theyll be bragging to microsoft that they have the bigger library of great games when they get that shit together.
The-Excel's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 21:34
The-Excel
What is your stance on GameTap?
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 21:59
pedrovay2003
@Eschatos
I also like the fact that Steam is offering older games now, too, but I'm not a big fan of the interface. I seem to have problems with it for some reason, I guess it's just something I'm doing wrong.


@The-Excel

Honestly, I've never used GameTap myself, but I've been looking into it for a while now. I love the fact that they have such a huge selection.

My only issue is that I've never been a really big PC gamer, but I may actually subscribe to GameTap just because of all the classics they have that I love so much.
Segasonicdude's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 23:44
Segasonicdude
I freakin Love the Virtual Console!

I waqs Psyched when I was Finally able to play Kid Icarus

And my NES has been on the Fritz so Mario 3 is Mine Again!
ry mc's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 00:40
ry mc
Hi, I have to post before you become famous. BC for the win! That stands for Backwards Compat AND Birth Control! YAY!!
ry mc's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 09:00
ry mc
I was sick last night and realized how stupid that sounded. oops. :) Yes, VC is good stuff. As are most older games.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 15:35
pedrovay2003
@ry_mc

Heh, it's all good.
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 18:10
Monte
Y'know, if i had a PS3, being able to buy and play PS1 games sounds like almost enough to make me want a PSP... almost...

@Redzie
if i recall, no it's not... i think the 40gb models took out everything needed for BC making even software BC impossible. Even Softeware BC requires some bit of hardware and that was taken out... its the trade off of having a cheaper PS3...
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 18:23
Jetsetlemming
If you're interested in getting Gametap for the older titles, but aren't comfortable with mouse + keyboard, get a USB controller. They're a hell of a lot cheaper on average than a console controller tends to be (My USB controller cost me $10 when I got it on Amazon. Recently when I got a PS2, I bought the cheapest controller and memory card I could get at Gamestop and it still came out to $16 for the controller and $20 for the memory card, and both were used and third party. Absolutely insane), and work great for stuff like playing emulated console games.
If you have a 360, you can also use an Xbox 360 controller with your PC; If you're using Vista, it's plug and play, on XP you have to download a program from Microsoft's website to add 360 controller support.
Oh, btw, as far as I know all PS3s have playstation 1 backwards compatibility; PS1 emulation is piss easy to accomplish purely based on software, without even needing any extra hardware. Of course, even if your PS3 can't, your PC almost certainly CAN; the requirements for a PS1 emulator are extremely low and can pretty much run on any PC.
jackdoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 18:30
jackdoe
All PS3s can play PS1 games. The thing is that a lot of PS1 games are rare so if Sony ever releases those rare titles, it will be a good deal. VC isn't that great of an idea IMO. It may be illegal, but many of the titles available are easily downloadable of the internet for free.
NightDehumidifier's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 18:36
NightDehumidifier
No Nintendo, make me buy another copy of Super Mario Bros. 3 again. Sure I have it on my NES, SNES, and GBA and my brother's computer* I want it again. And also make me buy it two more times after that. Sure I double whistle to breeze through the game quicker, only because it's boring to beat it the long way.

*My brother downloads ROMs but it's cool, his lawyer is nice.
notdryad's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 18:36
notdryad
"Why would you download a game for $15 when you could just go to a local retailer that sells used games and grab the same game for less money?"

Why do you think that your circumstances apply to everyone else? We can't all just walk a few blocks and find a Gamestop, you know. If I wanna go to a Gamestop, I have to drive about 60 miles round trip. Because of gas prices, any XBox Original game will ultimately cost me more at a store than if I just downloaded it.

You can walk to a Gamestop and I congratulate you on that. Not everyone is as lucky as you. Some of us gamers live in the middle of nowhere.
Holiday's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 18:41
Holiday
Fatal Frame 1 & 2 For The Xbox please.

P.S. Don't forget the panties unlockable.
dawimp523's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 18:51
dawimp523
I want to get the import titles on the VC, especially Sin & Punishment, but I also want Kid Icarus and Super Metroid. I wish Nintendo would let us transfer VC games to the DS; you probably couldn't transfer most of the N64 games, but surely 8-bit & 16-bit games would work on there.
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 18:54
Monte
@notdryad
You could still order the games online... Old xbox games are about as dirt cheap as what you'd find in the stores, sometimes even less; especially if you are willing to get a used copy

even if you add on shipping price, you may still save a few bucks ordering online... hell, if you get your game in bulk, you might find sites that offer free shipping for when you spend a certain amount
sevendash's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 18:55
sevendash
Huge complaint about this article:
Do not state untrue facts. Such as "Whoever is looking into buying a PS3 is looking for something that will play older games." I am about ready to buy a PS3 and I could care less about playing Playstation 2 games. Yes, I enjoyed Kingdom Hearts. I never beat KH2, but I can't say I'll miss it. I'll just play with that I have on the PS3.
jackdoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 18:56
jackdoe
However, some Xbox games are out of print and these are the games that are worth downloading, much like out of print PS1 or PS2 games. The early Sega games are good examples of some great possible Xbox originals. Black, Halo, NG Black are not.
Kaikara's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 19:02
Kaikara
All PS3s still have PS1 backwards compatibility. It's only PS2 BC that's gimped in the newer models.

I agree with your points about Xbox Originals- it is a horrible service considering you could have a proper physical copy for so much cheaper. I think M$ is just testing the water for big game downloads, next generation is going to be all direct to drive (I predict!!).
notdryad's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 19:04
notdryad
@Monte

So save a few bucks and wait five business days... or wait for a 5 GB download to finish. I'll wait for the 5 GB download.
Arttemis's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 19:11
Arttemis
How about we bring up the topic of Microsoft's horrible DRM stance? If anyone decides to upgrade their pro to an elite, they're shit-outta-luck with anything they've purchased via the XBL Marketplace.
Not to mention the countless amount of people who had their 360 RRoD, only to get it replaced by a console that didn't have a full DRM License Transfer - and fight for MONTHS to get it done.

Personally, this makes me almost regret my choice of buying a 360 - and it hasn't even happened to me (yet).
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 19:12
B-Radicate
Am I the only person who thinks all these old downloadable games are dumb? Who else looks forward to NEW content and not repackaged and rereleased old games? I bought a 360 and a Wii for new games, not as emulators.
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 19:13
Monte
@notdryad
Well the point is that it's still cheaper... also there's the point that Downloaded xbox games take up 5GB space; download too many and you could fill up your harddrive fairly quickly; where as a Disk will only take up the minimum amount of space...
Arttemis's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 19:14
Arttemis
I also think it should be mentioned that Ninja Gaiden Black for $15 is an absolute steal. I paid $25 for a very nice condition Used copy at the Gamestop in my home town because it's never available in my college town - and I *still* almost got it via Xbox Originals just so I don't have to pop the disc in anymore... but I hate paying for anything on XBL when I know it's completely useless if I upgrade my console... (mother fuxing DRM)
dawimp523's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 19:23
dawimp523
I want to get the import titles on the VC, especially Sin & Punishment, but I also want Kid Icarus and Super Metroid. I wish Nintendo would let us transfer VC games to the DS; you probably couldn't transfer most of the N64 games, but surely 8-bit & 16-bit games would work on there.
Queasy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 19:27
Queasy
The release of Ninja Gaiden: Black, Pirates! and Black is actually a good deal for Xbox Originals. Every time I see them at a Gamestop or somewhere else, they go for more than $15 used.

The HDD issue is a real barrier though.
notdryad's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 19:55
notdryad
@Monte

Yes, I understand that was your point. Thank you for telling me so. I couldn't have wrapped my brain around it.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 19:59
Qraze
i agree with notdryad. i live on a mountain and town is a one day a week journey. i can't get all the new games when i want. i have to plan it along with other things(grocerys,beer,ciggs,bills) but $15 for a game is crazy unless its that good.i have a 60 gig ps3 so my copy of aqua teen zombie ninja pro-am works perfect and bc has always been a goal for sony so i don't see them getting rid of it. but they gave us a choice in my eyes. you can have it,have some or have none. 60 gig ps3 are on ebay by the way. not parting with mine. and 360 don't support the riddick game! i was like what!?!that's the best looking best playing fps on the xbox.(in my opinion) but the sale to me was aqua teen zombie ninja pro-am announced for ps2 not xbox. and i was in. aqua teen is my fav show(horrible game btw) but i am a mindless fan that would buy hamburger if it looked like meatwad. and they all do so please help me with my freezer full of hamburger meat. carl rules #1_in_the_hood_G!!
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 20:18
Qraze
sevendash, you can't call bullsh!t if only you don't want b/c. i did and led me upon the road of buying a ps3. hell my first games on ps3 were resistance,mgs3:subsistence,ff12, it was great. i have no regrets. its good you want one but don't think just because you won't use a feature don't mean this article is bullsh!t. i respect everyone's opinion but that means looking at wider picture. b/c is a big thing to alot of people and downloaded old school games are great if you wanna feel nostalgic all over again like me or just wanna see what that fuss was about that you missed. you have to think of other before yourself. happiness is shared
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 20:18
Qraze
sevendash, you can't call bullsh!t if only you don't want b/c. i did and led me upon the road of buying a ps3. hell my first games on ps3 were resistance,mgs3:subsistence,ff12, it was great. i have no regrets. its good you want one but don't think just because you won't use a feature don't mean this article is bullsh!t. i respect everyone's opinion but that means looking at wider picture. b/c is a big thing to alot of people and downloaded old school games are great if you wanna feel nostalgic all over again like me or just wanna see what that fuss was about that you missed. you have to think of other before yourself. happiness is shared #1_in_the_hood_G!!
SenorCalavera's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 21:37
SenorCalavera
I'd agree with the except for phychonauts bit if it weren't free on gametap. xbox originals is just a bad idea.
Kyle's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 23:30
Kyle
Psychonuats isn't rare at all. You can pick it up SIGNED by Tim Schafer for $50 on the Double Fine website (www.doublefine.com)
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 01:00
brainderailment
I almost never play old games. Unless it's something I never got to try and heard it was the bizzomb, I don't bother. I also almost never watch a movie twice. I'm just weird i guess.
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 02:21
Necros
I'm loving the VC, primarily because of the selection. The PSN's selection seems very limited, and like you said, the Xbox games can be found easily elsewhere.
myaimistrue's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 04:11
myaimistrue
@ Kyle: ooooooooooooooooohhhhh, that's nice.
Kaaspeer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 05:25
Kaaspeer
Xbox Originals isn't that bad for me.
I live in a village and all the gamestores here are toystores. There isn't a gamestore here with a buttload of secondhand games, and if there are some it's all PS2 games.

I bought Ninja Gaiden Black because it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find here. It might be useless in America but here it's actually quite a good service.
Winwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 05:51
Winwood
Have to disagree with the XB 30 part - there are a lot of places where you can't get first gen Xbox titles as easily. Where I live for example (Ireland, Europe) the Xbox wasn't as popular as it was in the states so the only way to get (some of) these titles now would be through a specialist.
moonkid's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 06:13
moonkid
Great blog but I feel you're wide of the mark on your criticism of Xbox Originals, the idea and implementation aren't wrong, some of their games choices are.

Psychonauts, critical success though it was, hardly sold any copies. Being on Originals offers it to millions of people and gives ts a chance to belatedly make some money. If ever a game deserved to at least break even it was this. The whole 'oh I can get it cheaper used' argument is bullshit with games like this. Why not buy the game from the developer rather than give the retailer even more profit.

As others have also said, not everyone has the access to decent games stores where they live, so offering them on XBL is a great idea, they just need to be more selective with the choices.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 09:48
Holyetheline
You know... I wish my Wii had a hard drive.
mandlebaum123's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 09:52
mandlebaum123
@nightdehumidifier

How exactly is nintendo making you buy SMB3 again? I wasn't aware you had to buy it 4 times, considering I've only purchased it once.

What's wrong with making it available on multiple formats?
bickle's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 10:16
bickle
Backwards Compatible means a console can play games I already own. In the three scenarios mentioned, each require buying a game you may already own.

None of the options mentioned are backwards compatible.
jdub28's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 12:10
jdub28
there's atleast 10-15 copies of psychonauts (some sealed, most new) sitting in my local gamestop. I've never even thought of picking it up, but maybe i should if it's so rare.
RaiRed's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 16:11
RaiRed
I "would" love the Wii VC if the SNES games and below would display using a component cable. It's far too much bother to change cable constantly and I've avoided buying games because of it.

Nintendo say they want to preserve the games, but nothing would change visually. Ah well, don't think they're bothered about loosing a little bit of business.
mandlebaum123's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 21:24
mandlebaum123
@ Raired

What do you mean? I use component cables, and don't have to change anything.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 01:51
Samit Sarkar
Nice article. I was thinking of picking up Spyro the Dragon on my PS3 — $7 is a great deal — but I have too many other games to play right now.
Cynical Gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/18/2008 07:27
Cynical Gamer
Why doesn't Sony do free patches for PS2 games like Microsoft did for their xbox games? Oh wait, they're Sony!
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2008 20:43
Fading Star
Nice write-up.
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