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God of War 'stolen' from movie pitch, claims lawsuit photo

SCEA and God of War designer David Jaffe are reportedly being sued over claims that the PlayStation franchise stole its plot and themes from work that was sent to Sony Pictures.

Jonathan Bissoon-Dath and Jennifer Barrette-Herzog filed the suit in February, claiming that Sony thieved elements of "plot, character relationships, themes, settings, mood, pace and dialog," from works they had previously sent to the company's movie division. 

The work includes the screenplay Olympiad and a map called Island at the Edge of the Living World. They were created for Bissoon-Dath's The Adventures of Owen: Owen's Olympic Adventure. The material was sent to Sony in 2002, while God of War came out in 2005 and took three years to make -- INTRIGUE!

Naturally, Sony and Jaffe have denied the allegations, noting that much of the disputed work lies in the public domain. Both the game and Bissoon-Dath's work are based on Greek Mythology, so there is bound to be similar themes regardless of whether or not Sony committed any shenanigans. If you look at the plaintiff's claims, some of the "links" between God of War and the "original" work are pretty weak at best. It's probable that this one can be chalked up to money-grubbing on the part of a desperate writer.

A list of some of the "similarities" between God of War and Owen's Olympic Adventure:

  • Plaintiff's works tell the original story of how a champion saves Athens from destruction by the invading Spartan army that has been sent by Ares... [GoW]... is the story of how a champion chosen by Zeus and Athens saves Athen from destruction by an invading army sent by Ares...
  • In plaintiff's original work and God of War, the Champion's family is hacked to death in a one-room building in a small peaceful village. In both stories the Champion feels partially responsible even though he is not really to blame...
  • In exchange for Kratos' pledge, Ares gives him... the Blades of Chaos... two massive, glowing, sword-like blades fastened to chains fused to Kratos's wrists... These Blade of Chaos are taken directly from a scene in Bissoon-Dath's work... "As Zeus strides forward... his hands MORPH into two massive swords that glow like light sabers..."
  • ...Owen must cross the Bottomless Valley over a long, sagging suspension bridge, shown on Barrette-Herzog's map... in God of War Kratos must cross the Bottomless Chasm on a long, sagging suspension bridge...








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Triox's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 10:28
Triox
"As Zeus strides forward... his hands MORPH into two massive swords that glow like light sabers..."

Wonder if Mr. Lucas will be sueing them for plagarisim too then...

Also, wonder if it was an actual pitch or unsolicited "Hey Sony here is an idea, me want to make it with you!" If it was unsolicited then tough cabbodles...
skruloos's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 10:31
skruloos
It's probably the work of a shrewd agent. I bet the screenwriters saw the game, saw a couple similarities which are bound to happen, and told their agent, "See? Our movie would have been a hit since it worked so well in God of War." Said agent's eyes then lit up with dollar signs.
Phantom Spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 10:34
Phantom Spaceman
Zombie Homer confirmed as the plaintiff.
Gibbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 10:35
Gibbo
Zeus is going to sue them all i've heard.
Blind assassin's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 10:44
Blind assassin
It seems like a lot of common themes between them. By which I mean everything described there is incredibly cliche and if you swap out the Greek terms for whatever you please could be turned into pretty much any movie.
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 11:10
JustLikeBuck
Call LucasArts!

Bissoon-Dath tried to sell an Idea based on "Light Sabers".

See, it's easy to steal ideas, isn't it?
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 11:19
mrplow8
I don't see how saying "It's all Greek Mythology, so of course it's going to be similar" is any defence at all. That's like me writing a story about 4 guys in New York who use proton guns to capture ghosts, and then when I'm accused of ripping off Ghost Busters I could just say "Both stories take place in New York. So of course they're going to be similar."

There's more than one specific coincidence here, and they aren't things that happen in every Greek Mythology story. On top of that, they just so happened to start making GOW around the same time as plaintiff's material was sent to Sony.

I know everyone's going to jump to GOW's defence just because they're fans of GOW, but don't think that it's not possible that it was plagiarized.

This is just like what happens with Carlos Mencia when he steals jokes. Everytime someone accuses him of joke stealing a bunch of people jump to his defence because they're fans of his and they don't want to believe that he's a plagiarist. But if you actually look at the evidence, there's no question that he steals jokes from lesser known comedians, and even a few of the more famous ones.

I'm not saying that GOW definately stole this guy's material. I'm saying that it's a little stupid for everyone to just start taking sides when no one really knows. Not every person who sues for plagiarism is some asshole looking for a hand out. It actually does happen.

I think this guy has a case, even if it is coincidence. I bet Sony settles this out of court.
ajaxender's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 11:20
ajaxender
I love the last one... if they win this, theyll be able to get royalties on all the long sagging suspension bridges over deep/bottomless chasms used in any films or games afterwards. Theyll make a fortune!
twentythoughts's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 11:23
twentythoughts
While it's been harped on up and down the Kotaku comments and also mentioned here, you've gotta love the "Zeus with glowing sword hands" idea. It's like something a ten year old would come up with.
"What're you drawing, son?"
"Zeus!"
"Ooh, he's the thunder god. Cool. So is that lightning coming out of his hands?"
"Da-ad! It's swords! His hands morphed into swords!"
"Ha ha ha ha ha. Kids, I tell you."
zombiekiller13's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 11:24
zombiekiller13
So, can the current residents of Greece sue them both?
combatmedic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 11:30
combatmedic
@ ajaxender

Freakin totally. Im sure this guys *KNOWS* he came up with the idea of unstable bridges over a dark pit of nothingness doom...

And come on... hands morphing into glowing swords? Sounds like a Warhammer Chaos mutation. Get on that GW!
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 12:07
Holyetheline
Wow this is lame as hell. I hope GoW doesn't lose.
rjc5056's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 12:10
rjc5056
This is likely the worst movie pitch I've ever heard. And as far as titles go, "The Adbentures of Owen: Owen's Olympic Adventure"... WTF? Did they think they had the makings of a franchise? If there is as much blood and gore in this potential screenplay as it implies with the "murdered family" scene why the hell would you give it a kid's movie title? For this reason alone, I can assume that the writing in the author's entire portfolio is hackneyed and simplistic at best, so the case probably IS about some desperate attempt at cash.
Also, for those of you who commented about agents playing a role in this... It's pretty unlikely someone this terrible and unaccredited would have representation. They likely just mailed in a script to Sony.
Blind assassin's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 12:56
Blind assassin
@mrplow

Their is a massive difference between something being set in Greece and being an epic based on Greek mythology. The comparison of stealing from Ghost Busters and saying that all movies based in New York are the same is flawed beyond any measure of usefulness. Basing something on Greek mythology leaves a lot of room for innovation but it sets almost all of the locations, the technology, the type of people, the way things are supposed to look. Not to mention that it comes with a preset cadre of gods and heroes that, while they can be reinterpreted, pretty much are who they are.

I agree that the coincidences are specific beyond Greek mythology but like I said in my first comment, they match up because they're completely generic happenings that are visible in 90% of action movies.

And do you honestly think Sony is so amazingly stupid as to make a AAA game franchise on a script that literally just arrived on their doorstep? When people in positions to not only be called on stealing but suffer massive financial damage for it they put a bit more effort into it than just harvesting scripts that roll in to them. Granted, incompetence and stupidity are usually the simplest explanations for odd things management does but in this situation I think Occam's razor would leave you with Sony actually inventing a cliche story more plausible than them stealing in an incredibly blatant way.
skruloos's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 14:02
skruloos
For those of you who are supporting this lawsuit and saying the coincidences are too similar:

1. Read the Iliad. Armies sent by Ares? Champion chosen by Zeus? Hell, read any collection of Greek myths and you'll see these themes resurface.

2. This is part of the traditional hero's journey. For another example, watch Star Wars: A New Hope.

3. Another part of the traditional hero's journey wherein the hero receives his weapon. Again, see Star Wars: A New Hope. Or The Matrix and he learned Kung-Fu. The only thing this lawsuit has going for it is the fact that both weapons mentioned glow.

4. Are you serious? A bottomless ravine with a suspension bridge? Yes. That's NEVER been done before.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 14:54
Bob Muir
Bah, come on, you're drawing from the same source material. Imagine if the agents for all the "kids become adults" movies in the 80s got bitchy and sued each other.
DibbityDan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 16:47
DibbityDan
I feel their pain, for I too have had my ideas stolen.

I wrote a story in 2004 about a serbian immigrant who came to america to try hot dogs and get hit by cars. GTA IV came out four years later. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!
The Amazing Shenazin's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 16:53
The Amazing Shenazin
didn't David Jaffe supposedly have the idea of GOW well before 2002?
ceark's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 17:37
ceark
I dunno. sounds like crap and those are pretty vague connections. I think the lawsuits are overly abused these days anyway.
RWarrior1CO's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 19:24
RWarrior1CO
]i]In plaintiff's original work and God of War, the Champion's family is hacked to death in a one-room building in a small peaceful village. In both stories the Champion feels partially responsible even though he is not really to blame...[/i]

Bull, Kratos is totally to blame for killing his family. "But he didn't know who they were when he killed them!" Wrong, he didn't CARE who they were, at least at first, because as far as he knew they were just more helpless victims. Of course, AFTER he recognizes them he gets all emo. Yes, Ares played him for a sucker, but the fact is that Kratos willingly played along with him when he really should've known better. He failed to see what a monster he had become until the people he cared about were dead.
RWarrior1CO's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 19:25
RWarrior1CO
Oh, and the rest of that script is ridiculous. Glowing lightsaber sword hands? What?
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2008 22:21
MechaMonkey
Somebody's always looking to make a quick buck.
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