SUCCESS! YAY PC!

Ugh, perfect time for my main computer to be needing repairs.

im giddy!

Jesus, they buffed the Spy like crazy.

But will it change anything?

Not really.

10/10.

"Spies disguised as enemy spies now get a random mask to help complete the disguise, and their target id will be set appropriately"

"Spies can now use enemy teleporters"

"Spies disguised as medics now have an Ubercharge: line in their disguise target info"

"Spies outward facing "disguise health" now matches their disguise target when they first apply the disguise"

"Spies can now pick up health kits for their "disguise health", even when uninjured"

I got this when the orange box was cheap a couple weeks ago. I'm still only just starting to get good at it.

Anyone know how the new item obtainment system works?

Great update though...finally the more downtrodden classes get some power.

I fucking <3 Valve.

Maybe this is the weekend that I finally start playing TF2. My noobishness would be completely masked by everyone else's noobishness! A flawless plan!

So far, obtaining items is completely random.

Anyone can get an item at any time, and that includes spectators, even before a match begins. It doesn't matter if you're playing a different class, you can obtain any item for any class at any moment.

What blows is that, even if you want a specific item, achievements don't let you earn them through hardwork anymore. You can only get them randomly... which could theoretically never happen in your lifetime (complete conjecture)!!!

It also changes the weapon getting system and adds HATS .(I got the other Sniper hat)

Less like a prize for fullfilling requirements, and instead random. Hmm, I dunno, if it is as random as it sounds, I don't think it is an improvement.

I will wait until my brother, an avowed TF2 addict, gives me the skinny tomorrow.

Oh giddy! As a Pyro-person this will be a feast for me!

The-Excel - It's not time release, it's completely random. I played for 4-5 hours last night after updating and got nothing.

The complete randomness sounds dumb. Absolutely no requirements? Hmm...

@Doomsday Forte: No, its totally random. People get stuff while in spectator.

Don't exactly like the new weapon unlock system - spent ages trying to half-heartedly get the ubersaw, and then it suddenly just drops into my lap while playing.

What's the point of the achievements if they aren't tied to anything? Now I have no incentive to try to get any of them.

TF2 is still a great game - I do enjoy the new Sniper weapons and most of the new Spy items (except that the dead ringer isn't very useful to me). But why ON EARTH would valve allow you to unlock weapons that...... you've already unlocked? Why do I need THREE flare guns? I don't need three flare guns, and now I have to go delete them whenever these duplicate weapons pop up. Could it have been that hard to program it so that it only allowed weapons you DON'T have pop up or be found?

Hopefully Valve will fix this. And perhaps, hopefull they will also fix the ability for the Spy's ambassador to SHOOT THROUGH THE GRATING BEFORE THE START OF THE ROUND!

At this point - the only issue I really have is the new way to unlock weapons. Provided that valve go back to the old way, everything's fine.